raphaelh42

Hi Seems to me we always think god is someone nice etc, i propose we think things differently, maybe to have some fun but mostly to try to evolve about this subject Personally, if god / a god exists, i see it as a conscious living being, who created universe, for an experiment, to see how things would go in, maybe just to be curious/for fun, or maybe for a future job Anyway.... -> What if god was a jerk? What if god was dead?

Hi, I ask this because it seems to me that randomness doesn't exist, I don't know what science/scientists think about this, and sorry for not having searched Google before posting E.g., when you throw dices, I believe 0% of the result is based on randomness, I believe 100% of the result has reasons, such as maybe the way the dices have been thrown, maybe the temperature of the room, the distance to the impact surface, its density... Is there some experiment that proves randomness exists?

Thank you very much TheVat

Hello I thought that eating meat and lentils did provide the same proteins and same effects, then I heard about PDCAAS Could you please suggest some mix/alliance of vegetable proteins to obtain the same result/quality of animals proteins? Regards

But does it sounds logic anyway to you? and if not, why?

I don't have a god, and to answer your second question, i would prefer my children to accept he is sad and afraid, so he fights to get some moments of true happiness and feelings of security, rather than he would just believe everything will be ok because he trusts in some god and prays. And I would ensure my children's priority is not to live a comfortable life, but to try to improve the world, according to his personal opinions. Imo, worst thing you can do is lie to yourself, and nothing is more important than the truth Meds can help you to lower the pressure for some time, to get some strength back, because in the end, you need to understand and fight the cause of the problem, not just hide the effects (imo.....) My person doesn't matter, i just try to bring more positivity than negativity to the life, so my time on Earth would have been more positive than negative, this is how i want to go through life, and this is what makes me happy, how do you want to go through life? Comfortably? ------------- @Phi for All Creating a religion because i don't like existing ones, is for me like creating a car because i don't like existing ones, or a chewing gum brand But I agree it's the concept i don't like in the end, and as i said in msg No.8 I deleted the religion I created This topic has some toxic flavor so I plan to stop debating about this, I just hope it has hurt some people but for positive effects

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That can make life easier yes I think if there is really a god, he would be proud of people who don't trade fear and sadness for hope And the devil would use the hope of the others to manipulate them | | Would you feel more proud of yourself if accepting fear and sadness, or trading them for hope?

when saying i believe free will doesn't exist, i meant i believe you never take a decision/feel something only because of you, 100% of you but like it's all just a chain of events maybe we were not talking about the same thing | | no free will = no reason to feel proud neither i was not taking about instincts/reflexes

I don't remember any specific experiences, this is just my feeling, I feel they are either brainwashed, by their parents since childhood, or by some friends, or even by themselves I feel religion is about trading fear and sadness for hope, would god be proud of you for doing that? I think no, but it would be useful for the devil | | I'm afraid and I'm sad*, i could convince myself that I believe in some god of some religion, then i would have hope, i would believe everything will be ok, but i prefer to remain honest with myself *i know things that makes me happy and not afraid | | Btw i'm surprised, i thought everyone on science forums were logically not religious

i would have preferred to be able to edit first post instead of bumping thread ftr i deleted the religion i created because i don't like the practice of needing to have foundations written down it makes things kinda static and prevents evolution in my opinion was an interesting experience tho

Pascal's wager seems to be just about to suggest to believe in god, so if it/he/she exists, then you will get rewarded because you did believed in it, practiced rituals etc sound like a coward practice to me like not listening to what you think, but just act by the book, and hope the person who created universe will be nice with you if it exists how can you really believe if the idea is "if it exists", this is contradictory imo | | | Anyway i enjoyed sharing my thoughts with you guys, as always

I did read a bit the definition and it seemed to me a synonym could be relation, link... After thinking again it seems to me what you meant is that Pascal’s wager says free will exists and controls everything you do, and what i said is that it doesn't exist and it's the fatalism that controls everything you do Please let me know if i still don't get it i see it this way: external factors > your brain > act/think So i get what you mean, think/mind listening = listen to external factors I would say your mind/brain orders/filters external factors, depending on other external factors ---------- Excuse me but it seems to me that having no conscience means not being conscious and means being dead You meant sociopaths have no regrets maybe Maybe when they miss an opportunity to hurt someone, they regret having missed it? Maybe when they miss the bus they regret not having wake up early? Not feeling guilty doesn't have to mean you don't feel regrets E.g. "it's not my fault but i wish i didn't do it" ----- Hmm for real not for me, i really believe 100% of things that i think and do, have a reason, they are just not coming purely "from me"* I believe when you born you are like an empty box, some are bigger boxes than others, some are thicker Then life puts stuff into this box, then the box will react, according to what life did put into the box I think the good and the bad the box will do, is not caused by the cardboard, although it is acting The question is why it is acting like this -> i shared my opinion above *but yes i guess i understand, you meant e.g if you drop a glass = oops sorry my bad (reflex) But why did you drop it... i mean reflexes can change | | | Anyway it seems to me it's obvious that if you don't believe in free will, you "should" believe that you shouldn't feel guilt (doesn't mean you (manage to) don't feel it in the end) I mean it's pure logic to me......

sorry, i don't understand the relation between the two, neither what a god would have to do with what i said I agree but in my case, the logic of the thought i had, the thread's title, allowed me not to feel guilty for nothing anymore it's probably because i really believe in this logic. Maybe if i wanted to do that and would do it, i wouldn't feel guilty afterwards because why i would have done it, because i'm just a bad person? or because life made me do it? life drove me crazy? ------ That makes me think about religions, i'm not sure, but it seems to me religions say free will do exist, then the logic would say you should feel guilty for bad things you've done, things that do not match the holy books' rules i feel lucky not to believe in this, and listen to my heart and my mind instead

I did read a bit the Wikipedia article / Ctrl+F, i see nowhere mentioning free will doesn't exist, and that you should feel no guiltiness In my opinion, every single thing you do, is influenced by something, i believe in freedom, but since i believe everything has a reason, i consider myself like a spectator, i act but all of my acts are done because of influences, so i don't believe in free will i don't lie to myself, i prefer being sad and afraid than lying to myself i really don't believe in free will, so i think then i shouldn't feel guiltiness, lucky for me