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I fear no consequences from speaking the truth. I can be banned. But that doesn't make what I said untrue. In debate, the only consequence I should face is those who say things that refute what I said. Though that only lasts as long as it takes for me to reply to their rebuttal. In my experience, the only way for somebody at any forum to refute what I said is to do so after I've been banned.

I never said it was free online. I said it should be. Either a thing is true or it isn't. I could tell you MANY true things. But I'm just not allowed to, here. The point is, through replies, it would be ME who was listening to assholes. Not the other way around.

Did you even read those quotes? Apparently not. If I were allowed to speak freely around here, I would have you eating every statement you utter. Does that seem right to anybody? (Besides you) It should. Define "fuck off." Then do it. As in stop wasting my time with your delusional lunacy. I know that you don't want to know the truth. Stop pretending that you do. Too bad freedom of speech didn't remind you of freedom of speech. Let a thing be said. Then, if you have a problem with it, speak it. If you are right, the matter will be settled. There is no controversy on the matter. Either you support freedom of speech or you don't. Also, are you an American? If you are, then you live under the umbrella of the first amendment. It would be hypocritical for you to deny to others that which your government provides for you. Also, why does the first amendment allow for freedom of speech? Because denying it is a bad thing. If it is a bad thing for the government to do, then it is a bad thing for whoever exists as a citizen of that government to do too. Then you disagree with the concept of freedom of speech. I'll keep that in mind.

Ah again. Insults from intellectual and moral worms. How very interesting. But in my thread here, I spoke of a forum where I am basically free to back up anything I have to say. I see that you along with anybody else around here hasn't gone there to basically put your money where your mouth is. My thread wasn't a blog. It was a statement of fact. Where it goes from there is beyond my control. Though I have had other threads elsewhere that were steered in different directions by those who replied. Sometimes that has led to my thread being closed down to debate. For going too far off topic. Could it be that is what you are all up to here? Yeah. For the wrong reasons. In the future, should you reply again, this thread is about looking for those who seek the truth. Not about looking for those who seek affirmations for their delusions. There is no "which truth." Or, "whose truth." The truth is a thing unto itself. It is either true or it isn't. Also, if you want to muddy up the waters more, might I suggest that you delve into the basic nature of reality? From there you can go into the world of the quantum or the paranormal. But the truth I speak of is far less complicated and obvious that any of that sort of stuff.

Yes, you do have a master. Or masters. For example, ever see the movie my avatar image came from? It is a parable about actual "people." And, "They Live!" As to the rest, it is nonsense.

1. Go to my thread, "The hell of logic." Look at the second reply by a mod. 2. "Hate" isn't senseless. It is the very crux of survival. You could also call it a moral DUTY! To be otherwise is the pinnacle of EEEEVILLLLLLL!!!!!! How does it feel to know that satan should be taking lessons in evil from YOU and others like you. Don't believe it? I told of a forum here where the truth could be spoken. From checking in there today, I see that nobody here went there. Apparently nobody wants their fiendish evil exposed. Also, I am reminded of an old truism. "The road to hell is paved with good intentions." I hate to point out the obvious to you, but science is all about the truth. Knowing what the real truth is is the whole reason behind the scientific method. Also, are you claiming that science is all about lies? Next, the truth isn't "subjective." It is what it is. Just as 1+1=2 isn't subjective. Neither is it a theory. It is the truth.

Ah, flippancy. From what I have found, it is the go-to tool used by the happily ignorant. What are you even doing at a science forum. Let alone in the philosophy section. Not as smart as me. If I was allowed to say what I wanted, this forum could be completely occupied by Nobel Laureates and it would do them no good in debating against me. In the subjects I would bring up, I would show whatever diplomas they have to be about as useful as toilet paper. Also, I spoke of a forum where I could back up my claims. As your quote shows, the members here choose the run away approach. Only fools run away from the truth. Then, there are people like these.

Freedom of speech is absolutely essential. Everywhere. Even at "private" forums who obviously found a loophole around the cornerstone of the most fundamental and important human right of all. FREEDOM OF SPEECH!. But don't take my word for it. Consider what these people of note had to say on the matter.

Indeed. The hell of logic. A bitch, isn't it. Well, it seems that it was logical enough to befuddle you. So what are you. A fetus? I'm pretty sure you saw my thread, "How wrong are you." Why is it so hard for you to understand. For whatever you think is right or true, chances are the complete opposite is actually the case. In this instance, history is written by the victors. And you better believe it. OR ELSE! But I disobey. While it lasts, seek out my thread here in the philosophy section called, "Where are the seekers of truth." You better do it quick. I don't expect it to last long. Did the holocaust happen? You should have seen my thread about logic. If it did happen, you should be able to say it didn't. Because you could then be proven wrong. But denying it isn't allowed around here. So the logical conclusion as to why is because it in fact didn't happen. (Just as Roseanne Barr said) Now I'm not sayiong it didn't happen. What I am saying is that the actions of this forum in a logical way is saying it didn't happen. Make of that what you will. My logic is spot on. Only those who have become accustomed to delusion would think otherwise. Next, try this on for size. Though I haven't done it here, at other forums I have denied the holocaust. You speak of wasting your time? Hundreds of people at many forums over the years have tried to refute what I had to say. THEY ALL FAILED!!! Miserably. Oh how I wish I could tell you the real truth. On MANY matters. If only it were allowed and if only you weren't programmed to disregard it. Just as any cult follower would do. Those who deny freedom of speech are scum. Tell me more of how you enjoy being at a scum forum.

Being a science forum, I would think that there are educated people around here. Being that, in theory, there should be people around here who are interested in the truth. "IF" you are one of those people, this isn't the forum to get it. From what I see, this forum is as much about censorship as most other forums out there are. Your utter and complete ignorance outside the realm of science seems to be what this forum is all about. If you don't have the freedom to think, then you are just a slave. If these things don't set well with you, I will tell you one of the things that your masters probably won't allow me to say to you. After all, my username is Disobey. Come and seek me out at a forum where you have the freedom to think. (At least to a greater degree than I have found at most forums) It is called the Freethought Forum. My username is the same there. I will tell you that which you aren't allowed to hear.

1. For everything bad in our society, the buck stops with our government. If the vast majority of people are ignorant, our government is to blame. 2. Next, being educated and informed are two different things. Education often means knowing enough to be a useful tool to society. Also, as I said, being educated likely means being invested in the status quo society. As such, the educated are less likely to want to see change to that system. 3. As for rocking the boat, it appears that you have missed the whole point of my thread. Chances are, (despite any educatuon you may have) for most of everything you think is right or true, the exact opposite is almost certainly the case. And as for the solution to any problem goes, just think of whatever this or any other forum won't allow you to say. That is the answer!

You may be right. Samuel Clemens probably didn't say it. As to "our" government, who was it that William Casey worked for. So, you follow the "full of it" philosophy. That's interesting to know. It may have been a meme. But that doesn't make it untrue. And isn't that what philosophy is all about? Seeking truth? I never said they were. The things I mentioned are all one in the same. Just boiled down to their basic essence. Kakistocracy. But even that may not be the bottom line. Because if there is a term for rule by the criminally insane, that would be the rock bottom actually correct term for our system of government. But if such a term exists, I'm not aware of it. Everything in my thread couldn't have been any more in context. The mutual context being the ignorance of the vast majority of people. And that truthful fact is the current state of affairs. Not an "unknown subject." When it gets right down to it, every government is probably a plutocratic one. Also, the very act of being corrupt by itself shows incompetence.

Somebody else being wrong. How interesting. If it isn't philosophy, what is it. Obviously William Casey must have has some "philosophical" reasoning for saying what he did. The question is, and you can consider it a philosophical question, do you agree with what he said or not.

Not that logic is hell. But I have found that the average political forum views logical thought as hell. And will ban you for using it. For example, let's take a logical look at the topic of "racism." If racism is wrong, what is wrong about it should be easy enough to point out. So that if anybody came along and said something racist, what is wrong with that point of view could be pointed out. Therefore settling the matter. But the vast majority of forums won't let you say racist things. The only logical conclusion as to why is because there is nothing wrong about such statements to be pointed out. So if it isn't wrong, that must mean it is good. While I'm here, I may as well bring up another topic. The holocaust. If the holocaust happened, it should be easy enough to prove that it happened. So if anybody said things to deny that the holocaust happened, it should be easy enough to prove that it did in fact happen. But most forums won't let you deny the holocaust. The logical conclusion as to why is because it in fact didn't happen. Otherwise they would let you deny it and be proven wrong. On that last note, I will show you something said by Roseanne Barr. Who is Jewish. What a moderator told me at another forum was that what she said was taken out of context. (Before he banned me) But look at how she says what she says. She was being serious. As if that wasn't enough, I watched enough of the interview to know that what she said wasn't taken out of context. Also, the way she described how most businesses operate was spot on. That aside, here is the clip. Strangely enough, this can no longer is shown directly in the internet. What is shown is a lot of damage control and plain BS on the matter. Roseanne Barr.mp4

I have been to many other forums. Mostly what i run up against is stunning stupidity. I hope things will be different around here. Seeing how this is a science forum. But being good in scientific matters doesn't necessarily mean that there aren't things that even you are wrong about. For one thing, if you are well educated, that means that you have a lot invested in your education. Your education isn't much use without a "stable" society in which to practice it. With that being the case, you are probably more prone to not want to "rock the boat." Even if the boat of society needs rocking. So instead, apart from science, you may choose ignorance. After all, they do say that ignorance is bliss. There is much that most people are wrong about. To which Samuel Clemens had something wise to say. He said, "It isn't what you don't know that gets you into trouble. It is what you are sure of that just isn't so." Also, somebody wrote a couple books about what people don't know. They are called, "The Book Of General Ignorance: Everything You Think You Know Is Wrong." I have never read them. But then again, I don't need to. Because I know exactly where the author is coming from. Obviously, our government is behind this stupidity. Probably because the stupid are easier to rule. Or to put it more precisely, easier to abuse. Also, one of the things that most people are wrong about is in thinking that our system of government is a Democracy. It isn't. It is a Plutocracy. Which is rule by the rich. But to put it more precisely, our system of government is a Kakistocracy. Which is rule by the incompetent and corrupt. To help prove my point, I will post a meme of something said by a former director of the CIA named William Casey. What he said isn't something that started with him and probably still goes on. No doubt with the help of the NSA, FBI and other such government agencies. When you read what he said, keep in mind that what he said isn't something one American would do to other Americans. It is what an enemy of America would do to Americans.