Muhammad Owais Isaac
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On 12/29/2024 at 3:52 PM, exchemist said:
There is no evidence for the notion that "souls" have different frequencies or wave patterns. So this is just another Wild Assed Guess (WAG) on your part, isn't it?
What is the point in you posting this stuff? We can all dream up imaginary ideas like this. Why are yours worth sharing, if there is no evidence for them?
And I notice you persist in your wrong-headed notion of energy, as if it is some kind of invisible substance. It is not. It is a property of a physical system. This is science forum. Please learn a bit of science.
You really need to be readmitted to KG school. You have no sense of even the ABCs of science. Don't you know that the universe is not only composed of ordinary energy and matter? The fact is that 75% of the universe's composition is a mystery or unknown stuff that scientists have arbitrarily named dark energy and dark matter.
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10 hours ago, swansont said:This is posted in philosophy. You have not presented a model; there are no testable predictions. How can there be, for “mysterious, undetectable characteristics”?
Cells prepared in laboratory are functional but not living why?
15 hours ago, TheVat said:Leaving aside that I have no idea what this means, you do need some way to detect and measure this, or you remain in the realm of metaphysical conjecture, not science.
Such conjectures, ontological dualism, have been around for a long time, with a modern spin post WW2 from neurologists like Sir John Eccles and others, where the neurons are modeled as "radio receivers," picking up signals from a mental realm.
If only he had baguettes and marmalade!
No, soul is kind of energy and each individual soul in the universe is different from the other, differing by frequency or wave patter. Modern science has developed cryogenic technology in which human bodies can be preserved to revive them in future. How they can be revived, not by introducing soul in them no way, actually when cells of human body become non functional by trauma, ageing, or any other cause soul is disconnected because it can only utilise functional biological system to experience, explore and interact with the universe. So if any how scientists are able to repair the non functional human body then soul will automatically again utilize it. It is always available in space as kind of energy that current technological prowess can detect , somehow similar to dark energy, which exists but we can't detect it.
I'm open to discuss this topic further.
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Imagine the soul as a curious traveler who needs a vehicle (your body) to explore and experience the universe.
Your body's cells are like a sophisticated vehicle ; functional, complex, and capable of interacting with the environment. The soul doesn't "operate" these cells, but uses them as a means to perceive and interact with the universe.
Without functional cells, the soul(mysterious energy) is like a traveler without a vehicle present but unable to move, see, or experience anything. When cells become dysfunctional or die, the soul loses its ability to interact with the physical world.
Think of it like this:
Cells are the car
Soul is the passenger
Universe is the landscape to be explored
The soul requires healthy, functioning cells to:
See the universe
Feel sensations
Gather experiences
Interact with physical reality
When cells can no longer support interaction (due to trauma, aging, or breakdown), the soul becomes disconnected from physical experience. This disconnection is what we understand as "death" not the soul's extinction, but its inability to use cells as an interactive medium.
Cosmic Energy Composition Parallel
Just as the universe comprises:
Dark Energy: 68-71%
Dark Matter: 25-27%
Ordinary Matter: 4-5%
Souls can be conceptualized as an analogous energetic system with similar mysterious, undetectable characteristics.
Soul's Interaction Principles;
1. Genetic Specificity
Each soul requires a precisely matched DNA configuration
No two souls can simultaneously inhabit the same biological system
Mismatched genetic structures prevent soul's universal interaction
2. Experiential Interface
Souls are conscious travelers seeking universal understanding
Genetic matching determines interaction potential
Biological systems serve as temporary vehicles for universal exploration
Theoretical Framework
The soul emerges as a quantum level energy form, operating beyond current scientific measurement capabilities, seeking specific genetic pathways for dimensional communication.
Philosophical Implications
This perspective repositions soul from a metaphysical concept to an intricate, energy based system with precise interaction mechanisms. it as experiential entity using biological systems as a temporary interface with universal reality.
Invitation to Discourse
I'm Open to constructive dialogue, critical analysis, and collaborative exploration of this theoretical model.
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Imagine the soul as a curious traveler who needs a vehicle (your body) to explore and experience the universe.
Your body's cells are like a sophisticated vehicle ; functional, complex, and capable of interacting with the environment. The soul doesn't "operate" these cells, but uses them as a means to perceive and interact with the universe.
Without functional cells, the soul is like a traveler without a vehicle present but unable to move, see, or experience anything. When cells become dysfunctional or die, the soul loses its ability to interact with the physical world.
Think of it like this:
Cells are the car
Soul is the passenger
Universe is the landscape to be exploredThe soul requires healthy, functioning cells to:
See the universe
Feel sensations
Gather experiences
Interact with physical realityWhen cells can no longer support interaction (due to trauma, aging, or breakdown), the soul becomes disconnected from physical experience. This disconnection is what we understand as "death" not the soul's extinction, but its inability to use cells as an interactive medium.
Cosmic Energy Composition Parallel
Just as the universe comprises:
Dark Energy: 68-71%
Dark Matter: 25-27%
Ordinary Matter: 4-5%Souls can be conceptualized as an analogous energetic system with similar mysterious, undetectable characteristics.
Soul's Interaction Principles;
1. Genetic Specificity
Each soul requires a precisely matched DNA configuration
No two souls can simultaneously inhabit the same biological system
Mismatched genetic structures prevent soul's universal interaction2. Experiential Interface
Souls are conscious travelers seeking universal understanding
Genetic matching determines interaction potential
Biological systems serve as temporary vehicles for universal explorationTheoretical Framework
The soul emerges as a quantum level energy form, operating beyond current scientific measurement capabilities, seeking specific genetic pathways for dimensional communication.Philosophical Implications
This perspective repositions soul from a metaphysical concept to an intricate, energy based system with precise interaction mechanisms. it as experiential entity using biological systems as a temporary interface with universal reality.Invitation to Discourse
I'm Open to constructive dialogue, critical analysis, and collaborative exploration of this theoretical model.-Muhammad Owais Isaac-
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8 hours ago, exchemist said:
I'm sorry but this is bullshit. "A fundamental state of infinite field" is just meaningless. What sort of field? Sure, you can have a potential (energy) due to various kinds of fields, but you can't just have "field" without defining what the field is: electric, magnetic, gravitational or whatever. You can't have a field of just "energy" either. I've explained to you previously that energy is property of a physical system. It is therefore meaningless to speak of energy unless you say what system it is a property of and what type of energy you are describing. "Pure potential" is nonsense.
And I most certainly did not say there is not scientific exploration (explanation?) for for unscientific people. What I said is that anyone scientific will find whatever you are trying to convey mysterious. That's because at the moment it makes no sense.
The pre-Big Bang singularity was characterized by potential energy. Before the Big Bang, the universe existed in an incredibly dense state with immense potential energy that had not yet been converted into matter or kinetic energy.
In singularity:
1. Energy existed without spatial extent
2. All fundamental forces were unified
3. The state was an infinitesimally small point with massive potential energy
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Pure potential represents the fundamental state of infinite field from which all possibilities emerge. It is a field of unmanifested energy containing unlimited potential for creation, and transformation. And you have well said there is no scientific exploration in it for unscientific people.
26 minutes ago, exchemist said:There seems to be a certain amount of woo here. “Pure potential” is meaningless, as is the idea of a dimension, which is a mathematical concept, “living”. And your equation is also meaningless.
It’s not surprising you think it’s mysterious: it’s certainly pretty mysterious to anyone trying to see any science in it.
Pure potential represents the fundamental state of infinite field from which all possibilities emerge. It is a field of unmanifested energy containing unlimited potential for creation, and transformation. And you have well said there is no scientific exploration in it for unscientific people.
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My Journey into Dimensional Understanding
I've always felt that reality is far more complex than we perceive. What if our three dimensional world is just a tiny fragment of a much larger, more intricate existence?
My Conceptual Discovery.......
I began by imagining a single point a zero dimensional space of pure potential. This wasn't just an empty space, but a concentrated quantum realm containing infinite possibilities. It's like a seed waiting to sprout, holding the entire blueprint of existence.
Dimensional Progression: My Perspective;
In my understanding, dimensions aren't fixed structures but living, adaptive configurations. Imagine a one dimensional world where existence is just a single line. For creatures in this world, time would be their second dimension. Their entire reality would be moving forward or backward on that single path.
Move to a two dimensional world like a flat surface. Suddenly, movement becomes possible in two directions. Time becomes their third dimension. They can understand area, movement across a surface, but depth remains completely incomprehensible to them.
We humans exist in three dimensions. We understand length, width, and height. Time is our fourth dimension. Remarkably, we can look back and understand simpler dimensional worlds, but we cannot see beyond our current dimensional perception.
The String Theory Revelation
My research into string theory suggested something extraordinary - there might be 10 or 11 dimensions! This means entire universes of life could exist in dimensions we can't even imagine. Just like a two dimensional being can't understand depth, we can't comprehend higher dimensional existence.
Alien Life: A Dimensional Perspective
Alien life isn't about finding green creatures on another planet. It's about understanding that life could exist in completely different dimensional configurations. Imagine beings with entirely different physical laws, different ways of existing that we can't even dream of.
Higher Dimensional Beings
Think about it there might be beings who can see our entire reality the way we look at a flat drawing. They can observe everything about us, but we are completely unaware of them. It is like we are characters in a book, and they are reading the entire story.
Energy: The Transformation Catalyst
I realized energy is the primary driver of dimensional evolution. It transforms potential into manifest reality. Matter is essentially condensed energy, creating dimensional curvatures and enabling complex interactions.
My Transformation Equation
I developed an equation that captures this complex interaction:
Dimensional Change = Function of (Energy Density, Mass, Transformation Rate, Directional Vector)Time and Consciousness
Time, in my perspective, isn't a linear progression but a measurement of dimensional change. Our consciousness provides a unique time perception. We can mentally "travel" through time via memory, experiencing past moments.
Our three dimensional world is just a tiny window into a much larger, more complex reality. We're participants in an incredible, multi dimensional dance of existence.
Every time we think we have reached the limits of understanding, the universe reveals another layer of complexity that challenges everything we know.
This is my perspective , a view of reality as a dynamic, interconnected, and infinitely mysterious system.
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16 hours ago, Muhammad Owais Isaac said:
"It's better to imagine the universe in a different way than lying down like a dead "
In this topic we not only going to discuss gravitational binding that holds the things remotely in space - time continuum but we will also try to comprehend the nature and source of this binding . Is this binding , a force or something else ? Reader should note that this imaginative stuff need not be a true delineation but a possible explanation . It must be noted that big bang is not centre of the universe but it marked the emergence and merging of the time dimension with point where density of energy was infinite or maximum possible. The universe is expanding and I assume that space time fabric density is decreasing in all the regions equally except the regions occupied by matter . There is no preferred centre of the universe but it has got point where expansion of the universe does not cause decrease in density of the space time fabric but it increases unlike in the regions away from this point where fabric density decreases with expansion and it is probably because of the supper massive black hole or any other giant celestial stuff in the pseudo centre of the universe . Now let us try to unfold why matter appears to be attracting each other , let us call this attraction by the well known term gravitation . This gravitation in my view is a tendency of matter to occupy the space - time fabric of higher density in its vicinity and this density is always higher in the regions
occupied by the massive material bodies as compared to lighter bodies . It means that density of space time fabric in any region occupied by matter is directly proportional to its mass . Hence we conclude that lighter objects spiral towards the heavier objects in space time fabric or towards the region of higher density space time fabric ( planets do not spiral into the star because star itself spiral towards the region of the higher density space - time fabric and so on . In addition to this tendency , matter has another tendency to spiral towards the pseudo centre of the universe or the region of most dense space - time fabric formed by the supper massive black hole or X body . The density of space - time fabric at this point of the universe increases with time . Magnitude of sum of the increase in density of the spacetime fabric by all matter is more than the increasing density of the space - time at the pseudo centre of the universe but it does not mean influence of density of the space time fabric at the pseudo centre is negligible ; it plays a vital role in holding the celestial clusters in the universe . Matter is uniformly and randomly distributed in space which means that mass of bodies do not make them region specific or confined to particular region but distributed randomly . All the heavy bodies are not near the pseudo centre but away from it also hence smaller celestial bodies or their clusters move away from this pseudo centre and some towards it and the net movement is not zero but it goes unnoticed on cosmic scale . The tendency of matter to spiral towards the centre of the universe and towards the region of higher density produced by the giant matter have no doubt different intensities because of the different densities of space time fabric at these two regions . The distance is also a factor that determines where the material bodies move , hence the smaller bodies spiral towards the regions of higher density created by the giant bodies and we shall also note that those giant bodies are continuously in attempt to spiral towards the higher density region in their vicinity which maintains the constant distance between the celestial bodies or systems . There are some regions in the universe where space time fabric is altered by the giant matter to such an extent that other neighbouring clusters
tend to merge with them or to occupy their high density space
fabric and this merging further increases space time fabric density
of that region. We should also keep in mind that these events of
space-time fabric density changes are so balanced such that the
net change goes unnoticed but these changes are accumulating and
once they reaches the critical value when density of the space-time
fabric at pseudo centre will be greater than individual sum of the
change in density of space-time fabric due to matter At that point
all the matter will begin to condense at this point of highest space-
time fabric density and there will be a stage when no further
changes will occur at this stage time dimension will cease to exist.
Hence though the change goes unnoticed at but gradually
magnitude of this change will be enough that the magnitude of
density of the spacetime fabric at pseudo centre will be highest
which will cause all matter to condense in a single point. There
will be no more matter outside this point and space time fabric
is only meaningful if two bodies are existing at two different
locations separated by the space-time fabric since whole space time
fabric will be concentrated in a point, this event will cause the
cessation of the time dimension since there will be no more changes
occurring, no expansion etc. Hence universe would need a new
beginning and how will it begin depends on the laws or information
states that guides the infant universe to develop."Imagination is the first step to discover things "
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10 minutes ago, swansont said:
Yes, there are things that are not matter and have no mass that have energy. Such as photons.
That doesn’t follow.
If X exists, everything is X, is faulty logic
It means the disturbance in photon field which produces photon is so small that photon does not qualify to carry mass, thit may sound weird but this may be a true assumption.
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10 minutes ago, exchemist said:Yes, there is energy in fields, for example in an energised electromagnet. With photons, the “medium” is the electric and magnetic fields. A photon is a travelling disturbance in those fields.
You are absolutely correct, particles are result of disturbance in field we can say the ammount of ammount of disturbance is measure of mass of particle, every field has its own respective particle resulted by disturbance in field.
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6 hours ago, Anirudh Dabas said:
Photons have no mass, but they do have energy. The energy of a photon is proportional to its frequency.
A wave can be defined without associating energy with it. For example, a wave can be defined as a periodic disturbance in a medium. This definition does not mention energy, but it does imply that a wave must have some form of energy in order to exist.
as @MigL rightfully pointed out, this equation states that energy is equal to mass times the speed of light squared. This means that any object with mass must also have energy.
However, not all objects with energy have mass. For example, photons have energy but no mass. This is because photons are not objects in the traditional sense. They are packets of energy that travel through space as waves.
So, while a wave cannot be defined without associating energy with it, it is possible for an object to have energy without having mass.
But dear how can you define disturbance without a medium there must be some kind of force involved in disturbing the medium can you disturb any system without force. If no the how do physicists claim that photon has energy but not mass and its energy depends on its frequency or wave density... Do they mean energy can exist I dependent of matter or mass. If yes then everything in the universe is actually a wave that carries energy only and mass or matter is just an illusion.
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10 hours ago, exchemist said:
Any wave carries energy. A wave is just a travelling disturbance in some medium. It takes energy to displace the medium away from its equilibrium state, and that is the energy carried by the wave. A wave can't be said to have any particular mass.
A photon is a travelling disturbance in the electric and magnetic fields. Mass does not need to come into it.
But a wave itself is energy and anything having energy has mass also, so how can you define wave without associating energy with it?
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Theory of soul( mysterious energy) as an unseen traveller.
in General Philosophy
The soul does not merely inhabit the body but dynamically interacts with it through complex energetic and neurological mechanisms.
Here is the interaction mechanism;
The soul experiences the world through multiple interconnected systems:
brain serves as an interface between soul and body, neural pathways create energetic signatures of experiences, biochemical processes translate souls experience into physical sensations.
Scientifiic insights;
Soul and body operate as a coupled energy system, DNA specific patterns potentially facilitate soul body connection,, brain stem acts as a critical interaction point, cellular memory stores soul's experiential impressions.
Key understanding;
The soul cannot directly experience physical reality without biochemical and neural intermediaries. These systems:
Translate non physical energy into comprehensible experiences, create neural networks representing soul's interactions, enable consciousness to manifest through physical medium
The body is essentially a sophisticated sensory instrumentt that allows the soul to perceive, learn, and experience through material existence. Neural links are not just mechanical connections but dynamic impressions finger p4ints of soul's experiences. ...