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This is survival and not time

Time is a pure concept of people. Is there time in Space? On Mars? Time will occur there, if a human with clock got there. Do animals know what is time?

Good experiment

And I kindly ask to delete this topic.

Would you be so kind to explain how did evolution influenced animal's ability to distinguish colors? I can't give you any evidence, because it's my thought that world is created with human eyes. Because we don't see the world as it really is. We don't see the world as it really is , - is this correct sentence? Yes, I know humans evolve from their common ancestor. And ancestor wasn't a chimpanzee? There are so many holes in this theory of evolution that I even don't want to discuss it This thought of a colour struck me a month ago. I am 38 and only now I realized that everything I see is my subjective interpretation. And there's no objective reality, agreed subjectivity only. I've got my minuses and I can leave this topic, I don't care.

I think this event connects with the ability to speak. But I read, that yes, parrots can speak, but they repeat trained words and they can't generate new senses. And I am not sure that a color "green" means the same for parrot and for me. Because we have different brain If you mean that evolution still continues than where new homo sapiens evolved from chimpanzees? And I thought that dinosaurs could distinguish colors.

Parrot trained by a human? Does that parrot know that the sky is "blue" and the grass is "green". What does it mean for it? Ok. Animals can distinguish colors without evolution.

But animals already have an ability to "distinguish colors" without evolution. See , but don't realize.

Animals don't distinguish colors, because they don't know the concept. They distinguish different objects. But babies are humans and they have inherited ability for colours. Colours have human meaning for them. Babies also begin talking in some months. Because they interact with another humans. I found video with a parrot. First , parrot was taught by a human to sort coloured objects. And still the parrot doesn't know that the sky is blue. If told a mouse that the sky is blue would it believe me? My idea is that color "exists" because of a human mind. Because color has the meaning for humans. aesthetic sense. Humans observe the world and witness it. And color proves that the light is simultaneously a wave and a particle. Wavelength becomes a red cup.

Literally. You said that it is absolutely not a coincidence. The sun puts out a lot of EM radiation and the highest intensity is around the 400 to 700 range so it makes perfect sense that evolution would favor eyes that detect light in that range Evolution of whom/ what? For animals there's no color as a concept. For all animals, kingdom Animalia. What's wrong with this?! This is Wikipedia. What experiment?

But where is evolution if animals also distinguish colours? As I am being proved. Evolution of what? How could the sky be blue if there is no blue. And yet. Animals don't distinguish colors, this is wrong statement. They distinguish carriers of a color. And I stand on this thought. And I have one more question. what science or area of knowledge does color relate to? So that I could choose a correct way of communicating. Because I can see that philosophical way of thinking is not appreciated. But color is a philosophical question also. Color (American English) or colour (Commonwealth English)

Religion is a subtle topic, because there's so much subjectivity in it. The only objective knowledge about God is The Bible. And The Bible says that "Kingdom of Heaven is inside you". And everything is in God's power, and there's no evil, the only real evil is a sin. And that evil on Earth is the result of a man's free will. And yet you have to use due instruments for understanding religion. You can't measure a weight with a ruler.

Do animals know that the sky is blue, the grass is green? I think dolphins can differ colours in human way, like colors have some meaning for them.

Do you know where The Kingdom of Heaven is?

If there were no visible light spectrum, then there would be no human mind. So you take it for granted that universe is this way. Like a given fact. Have you ever thought why universe is THIS way and not the other? Is this just coincidence that there is visible spectrum of light and there's human brain which have the ability to interpret a wavelength to a colour? I tell you again: animals see different beings and things. They don't know that this difference is a "colour" because they don't know the word "colour". And there's no colour in the nature, the "colour" is in a human mind only. If you didn't know the word colour, the names red, blue, green, what would you see? Would the sky be blue for you?

I think, no I'm sure, if scientists prove the existence of God, it will be beginning of the end. Because faith will disappear.

And why does the light have different length of waves? If the light didn't have different length of the waves, there would be no human mind. That's why I think there's a strong connection between light and a human mind. How do you think animals distinguish colours?

I think that real world is a pure light. And there is no reality like we think of it. There are 8 billions of the different worlds. That's all. And there are things that people have agreed on: colours, time, concepts, borders, knowledge... So, how does it happen that there's no colours in the nature? But human mind have an ability to interpret it with colours? Why is that? I think that a colour for animals is like a feeling for humans. Sometimes I can't explain what I feel, I just feel it.

That fact, that there are people who can't see, doesn't deny another fact, that there's no colour in the nature. And colour exists only in a human world. Human, because animals don't know what is colour, they don't know the word "colour", and they don't know the concept "colour". They "take" colour as it is. For animals colour is the way of survival. For humans colour is also the way survival and and it also has an aesthetic sense. All the masterpieces, pictures, books, photos, etc. are evidence of the world. Man also creates the world.

But blind people live in the social world. We have to socialize for making living. Once I helped a blind man to get to the bus. The bus came, people moved to the bus, and the man didn't know where to go, because bus arrived not right to the bus stop. He took my hand like a lifebuoy. I wanted to cry at that moment, because he was so helpless. Then moment changed, he got to the bus, began talking to the driver. It was some relief. But at that moment I knew that I had to be greatfull for the things, which I took for granted: ability to see, to hear, to walk, to feel, etc.

You move away from the whole to the particular, trying to catch me up. I'm talking about the principle of receiving information of an item. Maybe a blind from birth person have a parent, or a friend, or relative, or social worker, who will give the information of an item to the person. The information obtained due to colours. So, it is WE always.

This is my idea: the world is created. And a man is created. That's what I want to say. Because we don't see the world as it really is. I am not talking about blind people, but the ability of a human brain to interpret the wavelength like colour.

Sorry, my mistake. I mean that all this is obtained due to our HUMAN mind. We have concepts.

"The human brain is special when compared to the animal brain in several ways: we have developed a complex language system that allows us to communicate and express our thoughts and feelings effectively when compared to animals, we have higher cognitive abilities, such as to think on our own, being aware of ourselves." (c) No, with colors.

Concepts with which we understand and explain the world. Concept like the name of something. Round square Jupiter tree leaf to live, these all are concepts because we can explain WHAT is this.