JohnDBarrow

I agree. Businesses best serve the public when the public holds them. Why did stupid Americans vote otherwise to privatize utilities then complain about big electric bills? Americans are indoctrinated that capitalism is always a "good" thing.

Apparently, the government did nothing about it. Apparently, some people favor acting upon emotions over sound reasoning. I can see my remark with the word "conservation" in it got scrapped.

I live in middle America where the plains are swept with winds almost nonstop. I figured my local grid is powered by clean and green wind turbines. I figured my posts here are brung to you by clean renewable energy. The wind, it seems, is the solution to pollution. As Bob Dylan once sang, "The answer my friend, is blowin' in the wind."

My thread involving sensible wildlife conservation was just locked. It just goes to show how far emotions vs hard facts and truths have infiltrated academia. I just don't know what warm-and-fuzzy stuff to post at this site that makes others here feel good.

This following video is a testament to brain-dead idiots in Pinko anti-American state capitol buildings who don't know a Walker treeing hound from a Walker Colt.

Science is human technical knowledge. It can be applied for good or evil purposes. I thank those very much who've applied science to bring me the air conditioner in my home and the one in my automobile so I don't die of a heat stroke or an asthma attack on very hot days. I appreciate those who are applying science to try to make cancer a thing of the past. I appreciate those who are applying science in the name of getting mankind off fossil fuels for good by substituting those nasty, dirty finite things for clean and safe renewable energy means. I deplore those who have applied science to create weapons of mass destruction to cause widespread death and suffering. I appreciate those who are applying science to try to protect Americans from possible nuclear attacks from evil nations abroad.

The video above is the best way I have found so far to show how hunting can be applied as a feasible tool to manage wildlife wisely in my own humble opinion.

Hunters generate revenues for game wardens, state biologists and conservation officers and such to operate in the United States of America through game licensing and tag fees. Explosives would create a fire hazard in forests. Well-placed bullets from proper centerfire rifles are much more humane than poisons. Hunting bear and other fur-bearing animals with hounds is a romantic adventure. Hunters have to pay states for the privilege to enjoy such romantic pursuits. The cry of speaking Walker treeing hounds in the woods below a treed bear or cougar is a joy to hear echoing through the trees. All of that helicopter stuff would just be a tax-payer burden. All of that burnt helicopter fossil fuel would not be Mother Earth friendly unless the flying machines were to otherwise run on biofuels from corn or green hydrogen, perhaps. The explosives would also destroy valuable trees, for you tree-huggers! The nose of a trained Walker treeing hound (moreover, a pack of them) is quite keen and efficient. This natural sniffer can home in on a bear or a big cat like a heat-seeking missile. Otherwise, these animals would be as evasive as Bigfoot to try to track.

Harvesting animals unlawfully is POACHING. Harvesting animals IAW game regulations is NOT poaching. If scientists determine that so many animals must be harvested for the good of the species or the environment, then so be it. I am a deer and dove hunter myself. I strictly follow the game laws. If the animal in question was lawfully taken, I don't care what legitimate business the pelt is involved in. I would mount a standing full-body bull giraffe in my private hunting lodge if I were to have the wherewithal to lawfully take one in an African safari perhaps if it were a rogue bull putting local villagers in danger. Naturally, I would want the airplane and the safari vehicles for my safari adventure to be powered by renewables to be in good conscience. Also, if an animal or two must be killed for conservation efforts, I believe in giving law-abiding sport hunters first crack at it. Hunters generate revenues through game tags, ammunition sales and licensing fees that go toward wildlife management. Having only government officials to cull herds creates an unnecessary taxpayer burden.

Maybe if Earth returns to primitive living, that might even be a good thing.

There is nothing that convinces me now that man, for the most part, won't one day return to horses, camels, asses, reindeer, llamas, sled dogs and oxen for general land transportation and draft animals for farming work and ships with sails for travel and shipping at sea. Wood might someday widely be used again for heat and cooking and steam locomotives to haul trains or to power steam-driven farm tractors. Then again, man might secure sustainable clean energy forms to power his modern machines of modern civilization, power his comfortable automobiles and heat/cool his homes until such time he becomes extinct upon planet Earth.

All joking aside, who agrees here that the findings of trained wildlife biologists, not legislation based solely upon public emotions, are best to properly manage wildlife? I agree that regulated sport hunting is an important tool in the overall wildlife management picture. I also agree that if fur-bearing predators must be thinned in numbers, hounds are an important tool for hunters to efficiently do this.

If governments were smart, they would pay strict attention to the conservation experts: wildlife biologists. That California banned hounds for black bear hunts back in 2013 was stupid. By the same token, the mountain lion (or cougar) in Texas is not protected at all and there is a green light there to hunt them year-round. Texas doesn't bother to manage its cougar numbers well. Here is a message to me via Gun Owners of America email from Mark Jones, an American wildlife biologist, as follows: "Colorado's Proposed Ban on Mountain Lion Hunting is a Warning to All American Hunters Dear John, Anti-hunting groups have forced Colorado Proposition 127 on the November 5 ballot as an "Initiated State Statute" designed to prohibit hunting of mountain lions and bobcats. If passed, this initiative would destroy a long tradition of science-based wildlife management and mountain lion hunting in the state of Colorado. Sadly, the Colorado anti-hunting initiative is about more than mountain lions or even a specific state. This attempted ban is a warning to all American hunters that ant-hunting and anti-gun forces nationwide want to destroy our firearms culture and hunting traditions. The Colorado measure ignores the fact that populations of lions and bobcats are healthy and thriving, and hunting is carefully managed by Colorado Parks and Wildlife. Furthermore, the sweeping language used in this Colorado initiative could be expanded in the future to ban the hunting of other game animals like deer, elk, and sheep. California implemented a similar mountain lion hunting ban decades ago, and the state now spends millions in taxpayer funds each year to pay government-funded employees to control lion populations as hunters are no longer able to participate in the wildlife management process. California's experience tells us that if Colorado mountain lion hunting is banned, it is likely that government-funded lethal removal will be necessary to protect humans, livestock, and pets in many circumstances. Anti-hunting groups won't stop with this Colorado initiative. While Colorado lion and bobcat hunters may be the target today, anti-hunting groups have tried to ban, and plan future attempts to ban, the hunting of many animals in other jurisdictions across the Country.     Hunters throughout America must understand that these types of efforts are never about science-based wildlife management. Leftist anti-hunters and anti-gun groups just want to remove hunters from the process of wildlife management and destroy the American hunting traditions. A ban on hunting your favorite species could be coming to your state next. As many as 10 million American hunters are not registered to vote, and many other hunters don't go to the polls or don't vote for candidates who reflect their values. Hunters everywhere need to get out and vote on November 5 for candidates who will protect the American Hunting Traditions. At Gun Owners of America, our Second Amendment Hunters Program works every day to protect the American Hunting Traditions. Please visit our website (https://www.gunowners.org/hunting/) and be on the lookout for ways you can get more involved in helping us protect hunting traditions in the coming months. Kind Regards, Mark Jones Certified Wildlife Biologist® National Director, Hunter Outreach Buffalo, Wyoming"

Thank you. You have made it a much clearer picture to me now that the biggest obstacle that stands in the way of total freedom from finite energy sources is politics and Big Business. I will agree there and not argue that. I don't believe electric cars break any laws of nature. It seems as if man himself tries to defy nature many times. I do understand that nature only provides man but so many options for the ability to harness and use energy. It seems as if the materials to make batteries for EV automotive use are quite rare and much damage to the earth is done by mining these.

It's a question of the availability of resources. Do you believe that batteries for automobiles will someday match the energy density of fossil fuels? I don't personally know myself. I do know we won't be able to put fossil fuels into our gas tanks for much longer whether we want to or not. Man is up against an energy challenge. Another energy challenge man is up against is the ability to produce enough electricity to recharge all those millions if not billions of battery automobiles continually on a broad scale. Those batteries will take material resources also.