NavajoEverclear

How old are you? Where did you get your education? May I borrow your brain for a few years?

"An infinite universe would cause infinite inertia. Nothing could ever move."-- thats from that site. Would that apply to my (well not really mine, with all the people on this planet, odds are someone else has nearly the same idea, just no publicicized evidently) version of infinity? "One might still ask what is outside the universe. But this question supposes that the ultimate physical reality must be a Euclidean space of some dimension. That is, it presumes that if space is a hypersphere, then that hypersphere must sit in a four-dimensional Euclidean space, allowing us to view it from the outside. Nature, however, need not cling to this notion. It would be perfectly acceptable for the universe to be a hypersphere and not be embedded in any higher-dimensional space. Such an object may be difficult to visualize, because we are used to viewing shapes from the outside. But there need not be an "outside."" ----- i guess i can accept that

I like the way you say local universe-- if puts into terms admittance how little we know. An interesting theory i have (no way to know if its true but i like the idea) is the pattern of matter repeats: for matter to be three dimensional, it must be made of something smaller that is also three dimensional. Instead of thinking there are infinate different sub-structures, it would be more simple if the order repeats. So maybe several orders down there is a particle that is a universe. A universe made of atoms made of quarks made of muons made of such and such made of universes. . . . . . there would be infinate universes within every area of matter, and our entire universe is an infinately small particle of ONE atom of another universes.

Part of the jaw huh, that makes sense. Cant wait to read that essay, also check into that Dawkins dude. Rad Ed-- what you mean about a book idea? As much as i hate money, or at least our system of managing it, is unfair, I am interested in making some to insulate and expand my freedom. Maybe also the LOTR concept. I've got to carry the burden of the corporate ring to destory it in the flames of mount doom . . . . . well i'll figure out how to deal with it somehow.

Sorry if it sounds like i'm complaining, i have gotten some good answers to my question before, i guess i'm just being psycho (but like i said i won't bug anyone about this ever again). Ok now i need to go do my homework.

Jeez this must be tedious, but i promise this is the last time i'll ask this type of question. I've started like two other threads on basically the same premise, and posted my demand for someone to make me understand on more threads than i can remember. So I was over this idiocy when someone pointed out to me how complicated evolution really is, and anyone who claims to understand really how it works is not being honest. But i was just wondering, can anyone tell me or is there a book that tells me step by step how we got to where we are today : I understand the concept that small variations lead up to complex adaptations, i am just wondering how extensive our knowledge is of various events along the way to developing our complex bodies. If such knowledge exists- i think their should be a book that identifys all the features of humans (could be done with another creature, but humans'd probably be best cause easier to relate to) and tells where each component began and at least the origins of the milestone modifications leading up the current form. People questioning evolution always mention the eye, well how about the ear? How the Uranus did all those little parts get themselves together? I SAID i understand small changes accumulate to bigger ones. I want specific examples, how did the hammer, the anvil, or the strirrup start, what about that spiral thing with the fluid and the hairs inside it? If we cant honestly identify the origin with some presiseness--- thats ok, just admit it. I'm not going to use it against you, like i said, even if we don't know, it doesn't proove anything, there is probably more complexity to the nature of evolution that we have braincells to compute. So you can either tell me or give me ambigous answers i'm used to. I don't care anymore, who knows why i'm even writing this. BTW-- i don't remember there being advertisements before on this site--- we aren't going commercial are we? If the Corporate Monster traps this site in its webbs i'm going to leave forever--- ok not that you care about me but you do care about the morals of resisiting the Megalomaniac that we are building the way for. However i have faith in evolution that if we do all become slaves there will be a lack of balance that will snap the back of evil and make everything go extinct expept monera and the whole world will start all over again . . . . or we could try to change the direction of society before that happens. (i am exaggerating by the way, but i believe you know my point)

thanks for that input RJ (theres probably stuff from other people, but i don't have time to read it all). That makes sense- Biologically there are no moral rules, or even any absolutes (maybe not exactly true, but you know what i mean anyway), but to fit into the fabricated construct of society we have to choose pretend that clear cut answers and choices actually exist. So 'homosexuality' is just the result of a biological variation. Obviously biology doesn't actually correlate with social conditions, but then we have to make a choice what to express with what makes sense to us, so the variation rounds off into saying someone is strictly one thing or another (this would go with many other psychological and social conditions besides sexual orientation).

yeah orbits was the question i had----- plus doesn't matter behave differently in different quantities (if it is matter doubling). If its the size, not the amount of mattere doubling--- i dont see that as possible, how would you define that? really its the quantity of it's particles that define its size. So if the quantity of matter doubles, we would be able to detect it. We'd find higher concentration of atoms---- which since we can hardly see anyway would come a time that they would be impossible to detect at such concentration. except that time wouldn't COME, it would have already happened, every moment we'd need a microscope (or whatever you use to see atoms) twice as strong as the last. It would be extremely convenient for us to have created one microscope in time to see a single atom ------ i think i'll stop talking, it simply doesn't work---- unless theres a lot more to the theory and a reason why such a thing would occur.

OK sorry about that outburst. If its not there thats ok and i wont kill anyone.

Thats about the ten millionth time i've been told that. I don't understand why someone cant just tell me. Ok fine i swear i'll get a book. Maybe a few. If i don't find what i want i'll eat you.

Not pointless (to me), thanks much, thats a really cool point of view. Come to think of it there are lots of ordinary things that occasionally amuse/amaze me. ----- Sight is a rather incredible ability ------ how can i sense matter that is so far away from me? And smell--- that is just utterly perplexing. Thanks for reminding me of . . . . whatever that was.

Oh. I was thinking of line of decent, but it would be interesting to hear about those other factors you mentioned.

Mammals are cool---- how did they evolve? I've tried to find info. from google, but it seems to be unsure.

I have Demosthenes same problem in understanding. I want to know the truth (even then i can still choose what to believe)---- but abiogenesis and some aspects of evolution are right near impossible for me to comprehend. It just doesn't compute with me how nonliving molecules, even complex ones start replicating themselves, eventually building into something with free will (i know that its scientifically impossible to define or proove if that exists). It would make it easier if someone told me all the proposed steps i'm confused with (i've asked many times). Molecule to cell----- and what happened in between. Cellular colonies to a creature that functions with seperate organs. I've gotten over fear that knowing the possible truth could shake certain beliefs i've chosen--- i will still have my choice. However as i said i just don't understand crucial parts of the theory of evolution. Like not understanding a math concept, i cant see. Would like someone to show me if possible.

hallucination is wacky, sometimes fun. You know if you stay awake for enough days straight you'll start hallucinating

or woman

Are you are religious man demosthenes? cause that's a pretty crackpot idea, sorry to be so direct, but in evolutionary terms thats a pretty ridiculous idea. We're talking about alien evolution paths. On our planet it started with bacteria, maybe thats not the only possible form of life, in which case the divergence of similiarity to earth organisms would be immense. Intelligence could be reached in an entirely different form. You'd really have to free your mind to imagine what might arise.

sohray, i know not

ok thanks. so a monogamous homosexual relationship would be just as safe as monogamous heterosexual?

Whoa it makes everything a ton more confusing when a bunch of people reply in between me responding to the last post (so by the time its posted it appears to be responding to something else after the misunderstanding is already solved). Rockstar went through the trauma not me, is why i was confused what you were sympathizing with me for. As for any other confusions, nevermind. Thanks Faf for that info on chemicals in the womb. So what does the index finger look like on someone with this chemical imbalances. Good point Atinymonkey, but we could also conserve resources by being less stupid. The reason the earth cannot support the human race is because of the wasteful, greedy, and unhealthy behaviors/ and mentalities that those in power engage in and allow to be taught to the masses. But still i feel its a good point. I disagree with dude's idea about falling in love with someone. There are some people who you may have a natural attraction to, but love is an action, how you are willing to devote yourself to that person, which is a choice. About AIDS--- i cant remember how it started, but i know hearing it related to homosexuality. In the beginning it was said that the gay community was at risk, and heterosexual people didn't think it was a possibility for them, until it spread that way, and is now of coarse the most common way of contracting it. So how and why was the virus associated to homosexuality? Sorry this is a diff subject than the thread was started for (faf already gave some good answers to it), just wondering.

Maybe i'm just bein stupid today but fafalone's response does not quite compute with me either. However i don't care cause i don't think its addressed to me. Not all abuse cause homosexuality, not all homosexuality is caused by abuse. Rockstar believes it was a factor in his development of it. What do you think causes homosexuality? By the way how is aids created by homosexuality?

I still don't know what you are talking about, maybe you misunderstood something i wrote. Could you cite the phrase of mine you are replying to?

Sorry bout what YT?

Just to clear it up, i am happily heterosexual, but i want to decide how i feel about people who are otherwise. I know a lot of people with varrying degrees of homophobia, but i cant believe that there isn't a reason for homosexuality. Why would anyone choose it? So my current belief about it is that it isn't inborn, but the development of it is not a conscious decision. But not always caused be things as terrible as molestation. By the way, sorry that happened to you, i cant imagine.

I want to have an informed opinion about it, so what do you all know? My theory is that human behavior is so complicated that series of psychological variations lead to changes in natural feelings, such as homosexuality. It is real, but not inborn. The observations to support my theory : Homosexuality has become more common, society has become more complicated, and homosexuality has been aknowledged as an option. Things are more likely to grow if they are a known option. 2nd is Homosexuality in animals, actually i don't really know (read a few articles but nothin definate). Are there any animals that are SOLELY homosexual. Various circumstances (domestication for example) lead to alternative expression of sex drives on occasion, but is there such thing as an animal that will only attempt to mate with the same gender? Maybe the reason we don't know yet is because there is ignorance on both sides. Some people persecute homosexuality, and those who oppose say it cant be helped. No matter what persecution is wrong, but I'd still like to know the causes for sure. Sorry i talked too much. Tell me what you know.