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Life may already be here on our moon,the extra Co2 may help it along. Ever hear of Methane eating bacteria here on earth? Lunar Impact Uncovered More Than Just Moon Water Oct. 21, 2010: Nearly a year after announcing the discovery of water molecules on the moon, scientists have revealed new data uncovered by NASA's Lunar CRater Observation and Sensing Satellite, or LCROSS, and Lunar Reconnaissance Orbiter, or LRO—and it's more than just water. The missions found evidence that lunar soil within shadowy craters is rich in useful materials. Moreover, the moon appears to be chemically active and has a full-fledged water cycle. Scientists also confirmed that 'moon water' was in the form of mostly pure ice crystals in some places. These results are featured in six papers published in the Oct. 22 issue of Science. The twin impacts of LCROSS and a companion rocket stage in the moon's Cabeus crater on Oct. 9, 2009, lifted a plume of material that might not have seen direct sunlight for billions of years. As the plume traveled nearly 10 miles above the crater’s rim, instruments aboard LCROSS and LRO made observations of the crater and debris and vapor clouds. After the impacts, grains of mostly pure water ice were lofted into the sunlight in the vacuum of space. "Seeing mostly pure water ice grains in the plume means water ice was somehow delivered to the moon in the past, or chemical processes have been causing ice to accumulate in large quantities," said Anthony Colaprete, LCROSS project scientist and principal investigator at NASA's Ames Research Center. In addition to water, the plume contained "volatiles." These are compounds that freeze in the cold lunar craters and vaporize easily when warmed by the sun. The suite of LCROSS and LRO instruments determined as much as 20 percent of the material kicked up by the LCROSS impact was volatiles, including methane, ammonia, hydrogen gas, carbon dioxide and carbon monoxide. "The diversity and abundance of volatiles in the plume suggest a variety of sources, like comets and asteroids, and an active water cycle within the lunar shadows," says Colaprete. The instruments also discovered relatively large amounts of light metals such as sodium, mercury and possibly even silver. Scientists believe the water and mix of volatiles that LCROSS and LRO detected could be the remnants of a comet impact. According to scientists, these volatile chemical by-products are also evidence of a cycle through which water ice reacts with lunar soil grains. LRO's Diviner instrument gathered data on water concentration and temperature measurements, and LRO's Lunar Exploration Neutron Detector mapped the distribution of hydrogen. This combined data led the science team to conclude the water is not uniformly distributed within the shadowed cold traps, but rather is in pockets, which may also lie outside the shadowed regions. The proportion of volatiles to water in the lunar soil indicates a process called "cold grain chemistry" is taking place. Scientists also theorize this process could take as long as hundreds of thousands of years and may occur on other frigid, airless bodies such as asteroids; the moons of Jupiter and Saturn (including Europa and Enceladus); Mars' moons; interstellar dust grains floating around other stars and the polar regions of Mercury. "The observations by the suite of LRO and LCROSS instruments demonstrate the moon has a complex environment that experiences intriguing chemical processes," said Richard Vondrak, LRO project scientist at NASA's Goddard Space Flight Center. "This knowledge can open doors to new areas of research and exploration." By understanding the processes and environments that determine where water ice will be, how water was delivered to the moon and its active water cycle, future mission planners might be better able to determine which locations will have easily-accessible water. The existence of mostly pure water ice could mean future human explorers won't have to devise complicated processes to retrieve water out of the soil in order to use it for valuable life support resources. In addition, an abundant presence of hydrogen gas, ammonia and methane could be exploited to produce fuel. "NASA has convincingly confirmed the presence of water ice and characterized its patchy distribution in permanently shadowed regions of the moon," concludes Michael Wargo, chief lunar scientist at NASA Headquarters in Washington. "This major undertaking is the one of many steps NASA has taken to better understand our solar system, its resources, and its origin, evolution, and future." http://science.nasa.gov/science-news/science-at-nasa/2010/21oct_lcross2/

Really really slowly means over a million years right? It does that faster on Earth doesn't it?

Like over a million years?

Since it is more heavy than water won't it stay on the moon longer than water? We already know water exists on the moon.

Isn't Co2 much more heavy than H2O?

A biosphere is different than a atmosphere!

Roaches do pretty good in radiation. A biosphere sounds good how big of a one can we make with that much Co2?

The Sun and Gulf stream have plenty of energy to do the job and do it quick.

Ain't no way that is going to happen the worlds population is going to be 9 billion by 2050. We need more homes to build. You know how much fossil fuel is going to be needed then also?

They need the Co2 to live.

Of course we would need the suns energy or the Kinetic energy in the Gulfstream to power the rail guns.

I think I read somewhere that a trillion tons would last a million years on the moon and that is how much we need to get rid of to reverse global warming. This can bring Co2 to 250ppm in our atmosphere which would return Earth to pre-industrial revolution temperatures. That isn't a short time scale since man can barely live 100 years if he is lucky. Wouldn't the plant life create Oxygen if it were to grow?

Shoot dry ice inside projectiles to the Moon with Rail Gun Technology to lower atmospheric Co2 on Earth to that of pre- industrial revolution values of 250ppm. If the 1/6 gravity of the moon can hold the Co2 to the Surface then an atmosphere can be formed and then seeds,water and nutrients can be added to start growing plants to make oxygen. My link

It all adds up costing you more money because the heat rate of the units is more.

Can the videos be explained mathematically?

You are the Alien here.

I did that and the definition of it is you!Don't come back here and disrupt my post anymore or I will pm the mods.

Excuse me! you are the one doing the name calling and trolling on my post. Would you kndly just go away and don't vist here anymore you are very annoying. I proved how and why it works and showed the video yet you refuse to believe it works.

I already did that test with a straw and a glass of water before anything else was tested years ago.lol!

You honestly think I would have tested it in non-moving water? LOL!

It is not only Bernoulli that creates the pressure differential between the two openings it is also Pacals theory of hydraulics working at the entrance. And yes the WORKING model I built is pretty close to scale. If you think I am using trick photography in the video then I challenge ANYONE to build one and test it. You will find I am right! It works because FORCE1 is greater than FORCE2. It can be written as F1>F2= FLOW.

Wrong each one is about the size of an aircraft carrier with much less mass. You only need a 1020 of them to span the width of the Gulfstream or 2040 of them if you make them 1/2 as small. You think I care about being banned I have the video proof it works. LOL! Merged post follows: Consecutive posts merged Your thinking we will leave them in cooling phase all the time. We don't. Only about 5 percent of the time they are in cooling phase and only when a hurricane threatens or if we want to restore some arctic ice. All the rest of the time the flow is shunted back to the top for power generation also no cooling at all in this phase. So you see we have the ability to regulate the climate with them something we can not do now with un-regulated consumption of fossil fuels.