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I think ancestrally this is correct, but races have merged over time where the three original subspecies overlapped.

Err, did you actually READ that link? Or just see the title, make a judgement and skim through without taking anything in? Anyway, here's another, note the date it was written! http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article19817.htm ______________

Sorry to blaspheme but JEEZUZ CHRIST! A religous nutter with suicidal tendencies as VP. For all our sakes, vote OBAMA, vote Nader, vote for Daffy Duck if you like, but NOT McCain/Palin!!

What if he does kick the bucket while in office and Palin is suddenly put in charge?

Democratic Socialism European Style with a Side Salad of Truth. Capitalism with brakes - you can't get too rich, but you can't get too poor either. This rewards the hard working but doesn't let the unfortunate sink without a trace. You see, a little capitalism is a good thing, as it encourages enterprise and hard work, but a little socialism is good too as it encourages fair play and equality of opportunity. Easy! Failing that Dictatorial Utopianism could be good - so long as the emphasis on the Utopianism of course - oh, and also if I'm the Dictator:-)

Sod his age - McCain is a damaged man mentally. Having undergone such torture as POW he MUST have a few screws loose. NOT NOT NOT someone who should have a finger on the red button. God help us all if he gets in.

The Crash of Western Capitalist Civilization? http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article20764.htm

You are learning well my friend. Award yourself a pat on the back. But as punishment for their crimes of greed, western capitalism is now crumbling fast, so maybe things will get better - if the USA can resist pressing the button out of spite.

Err.. I think that's already been tried my friend. It wasn't what I was suggesting though, if that's what you are trying to get at. I will ignore your other inane or insulting comments (isn't this forum supposed be moderated?). But please, explain to me why you think the 3rd world is still poor. Actually, don't bother. I think we've probably gone off-topic quite enough for one thread.

Try this for size about Palin: http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article20746.htm

The study of conciousness is the going to be the next big thing and will change our understanding of reality more than relativety or quantum physics. Just wait n see!

I reckon we won't. That would be far too easy woudn't it. Well probably find the HB to actually be a thousand and one new particles!

How about wwf site: http://www.wwf.org.uk/news/n_0000005306.asp Greenpeace: http://www.greenpeace.org.uk/blog Wildlife Trusts: http://www.wildlifetrusts.org/ Friends of the Earth: http://www.foe.co.uk/ DEFRA: http://www.defra.gov.uk/ Yeah, she is a c..... She don't even believe in Global Warming And she's gonna be vice president. What a dick

The only meaning I can see if was anything other than a term of phrase was that he was referring to Palin as the lipstick and Mc Cain as the pig. Still not really sexist though IMHO.

Don't be so niaive! This is going back to old Victorian ideas of Philanthropy. Yes it's great when billionaires do good things with their money, but the problem is that we shouldn't have a system where such huge inequalities are allowed to exist in the first place. For every billionaire or billionaire company there's twenty more that don't undertake such charitable activities. Believe me -I have a job where I try to get money out of them and most will spend more on corporate lunches for their Directors than they will on helping disabled kids. Do you understand why the 3rd world is poor?

And how powerful is that? About as powerful as they need to be to do what they are doing methinks... I'm no conspiracy theorist pal - I tell you. The fact that you think this a conspiracy theory is scary. Man, there is proof of all this stuff. Solid hard proof. Maybe you're just scared to believe anything that rocks your cosy boat? They know that so get away with what they want. You are treated as fodder and will argue with me to say you are not. It's incredible, you defend those who rip you off! I am trying to help you, but as ever, there are none so blind as those that will not see. Watch that video and tell me it's a conspiracy theory.

How Obama could be thought of as sexist for this comment is beyond me. I think it's the Republicans that have actually shown their cards by making the accusation. It was obviously on their minds not anyone elses.

Mc Cain will be president. Wish it wasn't so, but the GOP will pull enough strings. Maybe Osama Bin laden will be found just before the election? However, Obama won't change anything much. He's just as much a company man. But he may stop nuclear war, which will happen if that disturbed ex POW Mc Cain gets in.

Don't act so stupid. I explained exactly what I mean and you are deliberately pretending you don't understand.

That's the purpose of good government though - To remain vigilant and ensure that society does not become corrupt. But you seem to just deny everything I say, and then end up saying 'that's just (human) nature'. You can fight back you know. You are NOT powerless. And the first step is to stop beleiving the bullshit you are fed. You guys are not stupid, on the contrary, you are very clever, so why do you defend these bastards who certainly don't care about you! Try watching this - please do. http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article13062.htm 14:50mins is a good bit - but then it all is. Really please watch it!

Well I'd agree that there should be a good mix of the free market and state control. I think all the 'arteries of the state' (gas, oil, water, electricity, transport infrastructure, healthcare, education) should be run by governments - or at least non-profit making trusts, and the rest should be left to the free market (with adequate fiscal controls). That is basically good old democratic socialism European style. However, this example is a case of bailing out the rich and dumping the risk on the tax-payer (read: the poorer) They'd never do this to help the poorer in society.

Nope. The rest of the so-called free world are in pretty much the same place - but it's far more advanced in the USA, simply because of the size of the US economy and the influence it has throughout the world. The EU is going exactly the same way - just you watch. China isn't in the clutches of the oligarchs, but has a pretty oppresive totalitarian government that is fairly corrupt and pretends to be communist, and Russia of course doesn't let oligarchs get away with it any more. But yeah, the rest of us are in the same boat, or at least caught in the wake. the USA is not inherently evil, neither are its people. But the companies that dicatate your future, and coordinate the media to bamboozle you all with bullshit are. They really don't mean to be of course, they simply want to make as much profit as possible, but when it's on such a huge scale (and remember most of the companies are transnationals) and they are competing with each other they end up putting profit before people, and so ultimately everyone (including most of the US population) are treated as fodder for the rich - obviously to varying degrees in different countries to avoid a revolution! I hope you joking... really, don't you get it yet?

Are you serious? Have you no idea what's going on? Maybe you should read this - written by one your countrymen. Actually this website is based in the USA - and is one of the best things on the web. REAL NEWS for a change! http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article20717.htm My friend, that's their plan! The companies that rule the USA are chomping at the bit for a new cold war - as it's sooo profitable. Why do you think the USA MUST always be at war with someone?

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Hey guys. Just in case it does all go horribly wrong, it's been a pleasure debating, discussing and laughing with you all, and maybe see you on the other side. If not, it's business as usual on thursday! Bombus