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I love your wit dave, thanks for the long hard laugh. Seriously though, the layout looks and works great on my end!! No suckiness noted here!

First, My apologies for interrupting. I just wanted to thank Mokele for his last post. It was one of the most fluent or well-spoken (well-written if you will) explanations I have seen for awhile. It was everything I've tried to sum up to my best friend and more, thank you Mokele.

Ryan, I don't know if this is what your looking for, but I thought I would post it just in case. As a women with ovarian issues, I've been watching for the latest in stealth virus research and ovarian cancers. I can't find the other article I had, but researchers have also found an form of echovirus that specifically targets SCLC (small cell lung cancers) I believe.

It's called Selective or Soft Sound Sensitivity ....individuals that find specific or soft sounds intolerable and is thought to be a variation of Hyperacusis; an extreme sensitivity to sound, which may have a psychological or organic basis. These sounds are not intolerable because they are too loud, but intolerable because they are "unacceptable" sounds for their ears. Usually individuals who suffer from this either flee from this sound or physically react to it in ways that range from goosebumps or muscle contractions all the way to convulsions. WIth the onset of the identification of certain sounds as annoying, then comes the psychological overlay of conditioned negative reflexes, ie...even thinking about the possibility of exposure to these sounds can trigger a severe reaction.

Surveillance Epidemiology. I started out with pre-med courses, but found that my heart was really in infectious disease research and Epidemiology while working at UMC of LV.

Here's a few links to get you started, although Glider might be able to help you more. Source: American College Of Neuropsychopharmacology Date: 2004-12-29 Source: National Institutes of Health (NIH)

Update: Oct 22 2005 Response Plans Prepare for Avian Influenza Outbreak: Progress Made on Vaccine for Flu Strain In the United States, health officials have extended flu surveillance to a year-round effort and are stockpiling pandemic flu vaccine against the virus currently circulating in Asia. Preliminary results from a federally funded vaccine study recently showed researchers are making progress on an avian influenza vaccine. In one part of the study, healthy adults who received a vaccination developed an immune response to the virus. "It is very encouraging, because we are seeing responses in the volunteers that we feel indicates protection against (avian) influenza," said John Treanor, MD, principal investigator of the vaccine trial at the University of Rochester, where he is also a professor of medicine, microbiology and immunology. "So, we have gone from the point of vaccinating people to inducing immune response. That is a huge hurdle to jump over."

thanks for that blatant stupid slap

I support Ayurveda as a complimental addition to conventional medicine. Ayurveda foundations have never claimed to have cure all's for everything. They simply believe that with certain measures; herbs, yoga, cleansing etc. one will eventually add to the over-all health of ones total well-being. Ayurveda's goal is to improve health and increase longevity. It should also be noted that The National Institute of Ayurvedic Medicine was founded by Scott Gerson, M.D., Ph.D., who is also the Clinical Assistant Professor at New York Medical College in the Department of Community and Preventive Medicine. http://niam.com/corp-web/index.htm As far as AIDS goes, Ayurveda practices can help at keeping the immunity at it's highest level with the help of; Herbs, about 25% of conventional pharmaceuticals include synthetic forms of herbs. Yoga, physical and psychological elements are recognized to contribute to disease.Detoxification and Cleansing, cleansing rids the body of toxins, allowing the organs and body systems to rejuvenate themselves naturally. Exercise, helpful in rejuvenating the immune system and mental state. On a final note, a friend of mine practices Ayurveda. He hasn't been sick in 21 years. Not so much as a cold. He also looks like he's 25, far from his true age of 45. However, when he broke his leg, he went to the hospital. I believe the two compliment each other.

I've had insomnia most of my life. When I came down with pertussis, it got even worse. My doctor suggested "power napping". Believe me, if you can't sleep a good solid 7 to 8 hours a night, napping will help. I would also suggest "white noise". Run a fan, or get a CD with things like rain, water, etc and set it to repeat to help drown out your roommates and the noise. I literally had to train myself to sleep again. From a leading physician specializing in sleep disorders: Lack of sleep in the chronically ill:

Very scary indeed. But....in light of the Avian H5N1 emergence, and it coming from an intermediate host, possibly part Avian, we had good reason to resurrect it. By studying genes of the 1918 influenza virus, scientists can further characterize factors that made the virus so virulent, and thusly, find methods of prevention or treatments.

I think the word you need to remove is "likely". No one knows yet. Right now, I believe people are worried about the past history of similiar virus's. When you look at that factor, and the obvious nastiness of H5N1, add world wide bird population & the population of people working around said, times that by probability of evolution or mutation of said virus from bird/bird transmission to bird/human (already happened) to human/human, and what you get is one giant nasty killer that would have a very high probability of becoming pandemic.

The H5N1 strain has killed more than 60 people in South East Asia since 2003. However, of those only one is suspected to have died after catching the virus from another human. It appears that H5N1 has made it's way to Europe now. European countries are stepping up measures to prevent the spread of bird flu, following the discovery in Turkey of the H5N1 strain dangerous to humans. 13 October 2005 Tests conducted by the World Organisation(UK) for Animal Health (OIE) have today confirmed the presence of highly pathogenic H5N1 avian influenza in samples taken from domestic birds in Turkey. http://www.who.int/csr/don/2005_10_13/en/index.html

I must have been around 1 or 2 and I tried riding our Desert Tortoise, "Herbie". I remember my mom picking me up and telling me how I was going to hurt the turtle and make the turtle cry. That in turn made me cry. I remember telling Herbie I was sorry and "kissing him better" for months afterward, and cryed for months when he died 11 years later. It's no wonder I still have an intense fondness for tortoise/turtles to this day.

Here is the DSM; Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders definition and diagnostic criteria of a sociopath: http://encyclopedia.thefreedictionary.com/sociopathy Edited to add: Great link Glider.

http://www.who.int/mediacentre/factsheets/avian_influenza/en/ This article from the WHO sums it up pretty well. Personally, this Avian H5N1 scares the shiznit out of me.

Well that answers it for me. Thanks Ecoli

Interesting question Mooks. I personally don't know alot about it, but when you take this information into account; Your theory makes sense. I look forward to hearing from someone better equipped to answer it.

Thanks! I'll gladly be sent to the "SFN dog house" next time Douglas. Yes, but it's mainly used by alternative practioners. EDTA works, but it also chelates other minerals without sole discretion to iron like the pharmacutical drug Desferal does. Desferal is specifically formulated to bind with iron so that the iron can be excreted in urine, and is the drug of chose for chemical chelation in hemochromatosis. My ferritin was around 1032ng/mL in the beginning. I think chemical chelation is reserved to those that are well over the 1000 mg/mL. Instead of chelation, my doc suggested monthly phlebotomy for a year and using things that inhibit iron absorption like fiber and tannins found in tea, coffee, purple grapes and grape juices, rices, walnuts and cocoa. If my levels stay down (at 350 ng/mL now), I can lower my "blood letting" to 3 times a year or less until menopause.

Though 20 grams seems like alot, it is small in comparison to what has been used without toxicity. According to researchers and the Poison Control Center, there has been one alleged death from Vitamin C. However, the medical evidence never proved that the death was directly attributed to an overdose of vitamin C. If I remember correctly, the person that died was in late stage renal failure beforehand. Other then some heartburn and sensitivity in my teeth with the chewable C, (switched to powder C) I haven't had one symptom of toxicity and I feel better then ever.

On my blood test last week, so far, so good. One of the tricks to controlling hemochromatosis other then phlebotomy is through diet. I rarely eat meat nor do I eat veggies high in iron and I never take C around or at meal times. I also drink tea and coffee throughout the day to limit my overall iron uptake. Like I said in the Vitamin C post, I'm going to start reducing my C intake just to be safe now that the whooping cough is gone. As long as my serum ferritin levels remain as low as they are now, I feel C is really safe. On a more scientific note: Although there has been some concern that people suffering from hemochromatosis (a tendency to iron overload) may be sensitive to high doses of Vitamin C, most researchers agree that Vitamin C is entirely safe in daily quantities of 10 grams (10,000mgs) or more. Robert Cathcart, III, MD (orthomed.com) : My clinical experience would indicate that vitamin C increases iron absorption when iron is needed. It seems to increase excretion of iron when there is an excessive amount of iron. Therefore, vitamin C might be a good treatment of hemochromatosis. Selva Kumar, MD I have managed many cases of iron overload because I see many Thallasaemia trait cases where the older patients usually have anemia but high ferritin levels. I continue giving 30 grams sodium ascorbate infusion weekly or biweekly for their chronic conditions, yet their ferritin DID NOT INCREASE and you see improvement in their anemia, with added folic, vitamin E and oral vitamin c at 3 to 6 grams per day. My apologies if I offended anyone by changing the subject in replying to Douglas.

Whoops, sorry Douglas. Still appreciate your replies however. These stories are exactly what started me on the mega doses. I'm just wondering how something so powerful is so over looked by the majority. Put aside the major drug companies not being able to patent it, I still don't understand the lack of studies being done on large groups to see how well it really does work!!?? I would have to suggest powdered or capsules like the ones from Pure Encapulations. Pills are filled with binders and other unneeded things like Sorbitol, Crospovidone, Talc, dyes, etc. and some can lose some of their bioavailabilty during digestion. The powered or capsules really don't cost that much more either. I started out with chewable ones, but my teeth started getting sensitive to heat and they did cause some stomach irritation, mainly heartburn after 8,000mg's or so. I switched to a ultra-potency buffered Vitamin C drink mix that has 5000 mg. per tsp., because it's buffered, it is also easily absorbed without stomach upset. That's why it's usually suggested that you take divided doses during the day, there's also time release formula's. I just mix a tsp. into my juices or yogurt a few times a day.

I get the "blood letting" done once a month for my hemachromatosis. Because of the high iron, there is a restriction and I can not donate it. If someone's blood was really toxic, especially with heavy metals, I would imagine that they would be in the same boat as me. Here's a list of who can and cannot donate. http://www.mskcc.org/mskcc/html/12233.cfm

Thanks for the reply Douglas. I use the powdered crystals so it's easy to get that high of a dose in 3 divided doses. I started the mega dose after battling whooping cough with prescription drugs for months with no relief. Three days after starting the C, the cough let up. I plan on cutting back to about 7,000mgs a day for life over the next week or two. I'm glad to hear that someone with chemistry knowledge thinks C really does work.

I realize there are other posts here on this subject, but from a chemist's authoritive point of view, could vitamin C really be this exceptional? http://www.seanet.com/~alexs/ascorbate/198x/smith-lh-clinical_guide_1988.htm http://www.netsci-journal.com/97v4/97014/vitc2.html http://www.chemistry-school.info/vitamin_c_and_citrates.htm I personally take up to 20,000 mgs daily and have seen my overall health and well being improve dramatically without any prescription drugs. ie., My high blood pressure has returned to normal, no more asmtha, my arrythmia's have subsided, cold went away in a day, etc etc. Placebo effect? or does it really work?