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I would have to agree with using rough interrogation methods, but I would not condone things such as mutilation. I would probably suppport using sleep deprivation, drugs, verbal tactics, and perhaps food deprivation. I don't think the moral decision is as difficult as many of you make it seem. Perhaps because the idea seems so abstract in the media, it is easy to construct yourself a moral platform on which to glare down at others who feel that it is quite justified to use whatever means necessary. I would argue that most of you would actually make the decision to torture someone if it was a personal situation. Three men break into your house and kidnap your little girl. You catch one of the men, and the other two get away with your child. I doubt that any of parent would be "respecting his human rights". Indeed. I, for one, will be the first to admit that I do not value his life as much as another life. I do place his suffering well below that of other people. I find this morally justifiable. Anyone who agrees with any sort of punishment inherently finds the suffering of the guilty justifiable. It's a solution which has worked very efficiently in the past.

Its the right way! (and it's disgusting) This has been discussed at length in several threads. Do a search and you should find some interesting discussion.

I'm looking for what boundaries you would draw and your rationalization for them.

This guy was called "the "most lethal" ally of militant leader Abu Musab al-Zarqawi". Surely he knows some things that would be very useful in saving civilian lives. What would be the boundaries you would place on interrogation methods?

Upgraded again.

In case the protesters stopped being peaceful, I suppose. They behaved themselves, for the most part.

Anyone watching the inaugural parade?

Indeed, although America did sign the Hague Convention IV, which prohibits the use of projectiles that cause unnecessary suffering. Police don't use expanding bullets. For lethal purposes, they use standard bullets. For riot control, they use plastic (sometimes called rubber) bullets. These bullets are mostly nonlethal and do not penetrate the skin. They can cause extreme bodily harm in some cases but are not the same thing as hollow or soft-tip bullets. The US stopped using the bullets, but in 1985 the Judge Advocate General decided that expanding point ammunition is legally permissible for counterterrorist operations not involving the engagement of armed forces of another state. In 1990, the Department of State, Army General Counsel, and Offices of the Judge Advocates General of the Navy and Air Force said, "The purpose of the 7.62mm "open-tip" MatchKing bullet is to provide maximum accuracy at very long range. ... Bullet fragmentation is not a design characteristic, however, nor a purpose for use of the MatchKing by United States Army snipers. Wounds caused by MatchKing ammunition are similar to those caused by a fully jacketed military ball bullet, which is legal under the law of war, when compared at the same ranges and under the same conditions. (The Sierra #2200 BTHP) not only meets, but exceeds, the law of war obligations of the United States for use in combat." In short, they concluded that the open-tip bullet is more accurate at long range, and wounds are consistent with regular ammunition at the recommended range. Info here.

http://www.laughatrice.com/ rofl

My General Chemistry lab safety video was utterly hilarious. One particular scene (and I kid you not about this) depicts a boy stripping to use the shower. It shows him from the waist up and it assumed he is naked (the video talks about stripping off all clothes). However, what makes this scene noteworthy is that another boy is standing directly behind the "naked" boy, staring at his rear. It's very odd that they let that make it on to tape, but it's hilarious. Other funny scenes: the guy who stabs himself in the ketchup pack, the spontaneously breaking thermometer (upon shaking), and the miraculous splashing chemicals which literally jump out of the flask (flask is offscreen, splashes seen jumping up). Good times.

Hannity usually dominates Newdow.

This even made "big news" in the states. :/

Don't repeatedly click them (even only once a week) pleassee, google will catch on fast.

Sayonara addressed this here: http://www.scienceforums.net/forums/announcement.php?f=51

This is been getting a lot of news recently thanks to Michael Newdow, who used his daughter to sue over the pledge of allegiance (which includes the words "one nation, under God". Now he's filing a lawsuit to keep the clergy out of the presidential inauguration. Is he taking it to far?

Let me know if you have or haven't.

How many of you guys like the 'active topics' box?

Well, the catch is that they're going to raise prices. Plus, there is still a "late fee". If you don't have it back in a reasonable amount of time, your account gets charged.

Yea, since the upgrade I haven't reinstalled the modules. I'll fix them when I have access to my home PC.

Indeed, I'm working on it.

WISH GRANTED!

I just updated the server software. If you come across any bugs, PM me or post them in this thread.

No More Server Errors

Do you like the current SFN setup?

No, it's not true.