Jeremy0922

For example, when the outer field was provided by moving ion in the spectrum experiment, the electron was excited to the eigen-orbit by that field.

Generally, there are several mathematical method for solving a physical problem, Schrödinger equation and E=hv were deduced from resonace model by classical theory. I think the mathematical method to solve Schrödinger equation in QM might to be introduced, to solve the resonance problem, or we could select a new method to do that.

But we are discussing the electron moves in the electromagnetic field. By my opnion, if we consider the mathematical methods in QM is effective to treat the resonace of the elctron orbit in the atom, almost problem would be settled.

If there is no outer field, the electron is at the groound state, and we can not observe the spectrum.

If QM can not explain the fact above, We have the right to question QM!!!

It is necessory for a varying field for the elecron to excite to high energy eigen-orbit, and the varying field is produced by moving ion in the spectrum experiment.

Then you explain the fact that an electron could moves along a trajectory by QM.

The static field can not , but the periodic or variale field can do it.

1. You think Lorentz force is wong, don't it? 2. and deny an electron could moves along a trajectory!!!

It will takes some time to do them, but I think the mathematical method should be consistent with that of quantum mechanics.

A simple fact, an electron which is moving in a electromagnetic field is controlled by Lorentz force and will go along a trajectory, Please give me a reliable interpretation by quantum mechanics!!!

I would insist what is right deduction by classical theory, and reject to the misunderstanding about the great theory.

Hyperfine and Zeeman splitting are the phenomenon of spectrum of atom. The atom spectrum is the experimental result of electromagnetic radiation caused by exciting atoms. 1. It is necessary for the outer field to excite atom; 2. The determine result of spectrum is caused by a large number of exciting atoms. By classical orbit conception, it is easy to understand the magnetic moments caused by orbital movement of charged particles in the atoms. There are two rotation directions, clockwise and counterclockwise referring to the outer field, then the magnetic moments interacts with the outer field are different for these two situation. The interaction is the reason to occur hyperfine and splitting of the atom spectrum. a) If the outer field has only the effect to provide supplements to balance energy loss caused by moving charged particles at higher level eigen-orbits. We could get the hyperfine structure of spectrum; b) When the outer field not only has the effect of balance energy loss, also has the effect to change the eigen-orbit, we could observe the spectrum splitting, including Zeeman effect and Stark effect under the appropriate conditions of outer electromagnetic field. Inaddition, if the electron rotates along the orbit face to face of the proton, will spins a circle after a orbit period referring to center of mass coordinate of the atom. the effect by the magnetic moment should also be consider for above situations. That is my initial answer about your questions.

I am not the arbiter, but have the right to question it. Thanks

The "two puzzle cloud" that deny classical theory is a mistake. Schrödinger equation and E=hv, which are mathematic tool to be applied to solve the linear spectrum of H atom, could be deduced from classical theory. Therefore, the structure and the spectrum of the hydrogen atom can be solved by Classial theory. I insist It is serious mistake for us to deny Classical theories.

I think the mathematical methods in QM are effect, but some new concepts are wrong. I want to express: It is serious mistake for us to deny Classical theories.

The mathematical results are ringht, but I need the interpretation in physics.

You are wrong, QM is the theory for solving the structure of atom, molecule, and solid-state, the magnetics properpties are depended on the structure, so,QM should explain it.

No，Schrödinger equation and E=hv are only assumptions, the solution from them is assumption too.

That means you can not explain!

Don't misunderstand my question, Please explain the ground state of H atom by QM.

Please tell me how to explain there is a ground state of H atom by QM.

OK, you could uderstand my opnion from my paper and posts

Thanks for your link, I believe there is electron, although we have never get the image about a standing electron.

Yes, this problem has not be solved by present theories, so we must consider the interactions among radiations and charged particles in H atom for proving there is a steady state.