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This question imply that the potential field acting on the electron is not V ( r ), but is V ( X ) caused by the proton at previous position and previous time t'. V ( X ) is difficult to be determined, because the previous position could not be determined by unpredictable motion of particle according to QM conception. I think that is a serious problem that the electron is moving in a potential field undetermined, and the potential function V( X ) in the Schrödinger equation of the electron can not be determined.

According with Quantum Mechanics, the electron is moving in the potential field V( r ) produced by proton in a hydrogen atom, and r is the distance of the electron to the proton. At any time, only if the propagation speed of potential field V( r ) by the proton is infinite, the potential field acting on the electron could be expressed by V( r ). Clearly, that contradicts with the experimental result of propagation speed of electromagnetic field (light), as well known, the speed of light in the vacuum is finite, and is about 300,000Km/s. So, I think quantum mechanics contradicts with the experiment result of light speed, is that right?

Recently, the velocity of neutrino was measured according to the definition of average velocity, and found it is faster than light. You could find the paper on arvix websit. "Measurement of the neutrino velocity with the OPERA detector in the CNGS beam" http://arxiv.org/abs/1109.4897

GED will publish my paper "Electromagnetic Radiation and stability of the Hydrogen Atom " in2012, the preprint of my paper is linked for read. If you are going to propagate this information to any third party, Please contact with GED.

I will think better of your kind suggestions, thank you. Thank you discuss with me and give kind suggestion.

It is my great pleasure to discuss with you a physical expert. In your posts you gave me a lot of professional knowledge and suggestion, and I think that made my opnions became clearer. Thank you swansont, sincerely. It is good idea, if you give us in detail I am so sorry I have not found it you hope now, but I think that experiment is a simple physical experiment by which the length and the velocity of a moving rod with constant velocity could be measured according the definition of average velocity of motion. I feel that is not difficult for anyone to understand and accept, and belongs to common knowledge for science researcher. If you disagree above answer you could stop further discussion with me.

According to SR, If we don't known the length and the velocity of a moving rod, please tell me how do we measure them by the experiment?

the experiment shown in openning post of this topic.

see posts above

For science discussion in this topic, you seem to lack sincerity!!!

In my openning post of this topic, the measrure length of a moving rod does not relate to light speed and its velocity, so the conception "space contraction" from SR is contradictory to the experiment. This factor is enough for us to affirm that SR is wrong.

Firstly, the conceptions of a correct theory would not be self-contradictory, then agrees with experiment, and deduces new cognition, ...... A correct theory should satisfy all factors above.

It would be nice, if that will not meet or make new problems.

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The precondition is that we should have a correct theory about the electromagnetic radiation of moving charged particle, because that is the foudation for us to measure and understand the electromagnetic phenomena. but we have not now. times t1, t1', t2 and t2' are the measure times in rest frame

Sorry D H, some phenomena has been explained many times with SR, but SR meet many serious problems that can not be settled down by itself.

Einstein's thought experiment also is a observation method for moving objest with system error. space-time has not been changed by motion.

thanks swansont, The most important thing for a theory is the basal conception with which some phenomena could be explained well. the experiment in first my post is a real testing tech for high speed moving object while I research in shock wave by impact of two bodies.

I disagree with your comment.

Shown in my first post and following.

I am not a proponent of anything-but-relativity, but one likes to search for and believes science truth. I hope my question given above could be solved by physical expert like you, but not be censured. Thinks for your kind suggestion, but the basal conceptions are very important for any theory, but it is very difficult for me to accept the space-time conception of SR becaue of the contradiction with it.

But disobey nature rule that time can never go back, and disobey causality that evey thing must obey in nature.

I like physics more than others, but never accept any theory that disobey nature and science rule.

Yes, electromagnetic radiation is an important limiting factor to be considered.

Certainly, Some experimental results seem to fit to some deduction from SR, but SR is not the unique theory to explain them. For example, the acceleration of a charged particle in a synchrotron, decreases with the increase of velocity of the particle. according to SR, the reason is the mass of the particle increase with the increase of its velocity. But we could find a other idea to understand this experiment result, if the electric force acting on the charged particle relates to the velocity, and decreases with it, then the phenomena could be explained. That is, Coulombic force might relate to not only the distant between the two charged particles, but also the velocities of them. I think this idea is worth to be considered.