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Oh, so my lack of belief in leprachauns, santa clauses, tooth fairies, etc requires faith? There's absolutely no evidence and no reason to believe in any of these. There's no reason to affirmatively deny their existance and doing so would even raise a burden of proof to prove they don't exist. I do not need faith to say I don't believe in God but I do think one needs faith to say I believe there is no God. We wouldn't be having this conversation if some human hadn't dreamt up the whole hypothesis of God in the first place and not buying his theory for lack of evidence is not an act of faith.

No, I don't have the question at all. I have a claim, theory, hypotheses by theists that there is a God. I say I don't believe them. This does not mean that I claim there is no deity(2) or that I don't know(3). I simply do not believe their claim. OTOH, lump me into 2 if it makes you happy but I think you need a 4 because "I do not believe in ...." is not the same affirmative denial that "I believe there is no ...." is. The second is an affirmative belief but the other is not.

That depends. One that simply lacks belief because of the lack of supporting evidence for a God theory, a requirement of the scientific method, is not acting out of faith but is still an atheist.

It doesn't have to be a label, just a description. Theists believe grand-pappy faeries in the sky and not·theists (atheists) don't. I don't mind anyone calling me a not·theist and I'd rather them know that than assuming that I might be in the other camp...

To that extent I would say that I am a secular humanist in addition to being an agnostic atheist. Some might even refer to secular humanism as my religion since it is effectively a belief system...

People whom lack belief in God(s) as well as those that disbelieve in God(s) are atheists. Agnosticism is not about one's belief in a deity but ones belief in man's inability to know the absolute truth. Theism is about deities, agnosticism about knowledge thus, agnosticism is not a position on the line running from atheism to theism. Neither is exclusive of the other. IMO it sounds like you are an agnostic atheist.

I consider myself an agnostic atheist. I do not believe in any God(s) and I don't believe anyone could ever prove or disprove the existance of any God(s). IMO, the concept of god is a man made concept to provide an answer for the questions man doesn't know the answer to yet.

The pressure in the pipe will increase the pressure in the hose. The pressure in the hose will act in all directions equally. The pressure in the hose will not increase to the pressure outside the hose unless it is filled with fluid since air itself is compressible therefore the pressure in the pipe would tend to push the plugs into the hose with a hose full of air. Google Pascal and Boyle.

Is this better? Groups

Preventing a new base camp replacement for Al Qaeda should be considered though since we robbed them of Afghanistan....

While we're talking big numbers and headlines there are currently about 140,000 Turkish troops massed on the border because of the Kurdistan Workers Party in northern Iraq that launches attacks on Turkish forces...

I fully supported the deposing of Saddam Hussein, the world is a better place without him. I am tiring of waiting for the Iraqi people to step up to the plate and take over their country. It's been 3 years since their sovereignty was returned. We cannot hold their hand or be their police force forever. They need to put their nose to the grindstone and get the job done. OTOH, those that want to simply cut and run, because they think there has already been enough time, need to remember that the U.S. Constitution was not finished for more than 10 years after the Declaration of Independence was signed and it still took nearly another year for it to be ratified. A sound government does not happen overnight.

Me either. I am interested in opening the minds of those that insist there is a God because they say so. I don't believe in any God(s) but freely admit the possibility, I'm an open minded skeptic. As such I expect those that insist that there is a God to either prove it or admit the possibility that there are no Gods. If they are too close minded to do this then they don't belong in any philosophy forum on religion. FWIW, I do feel it works the other way too.

So, is it fair for those that lack belief in any Gods to ask for proof from those that do believe in Gods? I'm perfectly open to the possibility of God(s) but thus far I don't think there's ever been any evidence. How critical could members be of proffered evidence?

I tend to think there are plenty of philosophy and religion forums on the web already. How many people that come here to discuss religion really come to discuss social science as opposed to simply espousing their religious view?

The link for the Philosophy and Religion forum is still on the forums index page....

If they're only worried about preserving the information itself they should just archive it as plain old ascii text. It's not like vi is going to become unavailable.

I was just pointing out the dead links that needed to be removed. There's plenty of sites to debate origins at if I were interested in that...

I just noticed the link to originsdebate.com on the homepage is dead too...

I see it still only goes to level 9. I also don't like the answer for level 9 since the software title is actually truncated compared to what most people refer to it as.

Just an observation here. If this is really a question from an IQ test then it should be designed to be solvable mentally, without the use of Excel, Mathematica or even a calculator, within the time given for it on the test it's from. This suggests that there is some solution that the intelligent can deduce from the given information using the mind and only the mind. Am I missing something here?

I figured the decision to kill it was made already. I was just posting a reminder for someone to remove the redirect to it on the forum index page....

There's still a forum listed for this on the forum index page even though TheologyForums.net seems to have met it's demise...

Looks good