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WITCH!! BURN IN HELL!!!! also, if we assume psychic ability is largely due to mental ability and control of Psi, humans are the only capable animals. that's just a given considering we're the only animals capable of understanding and controlling complex systems. biases are anti-productive and fallacious in science. however, as long as you only say "there's no supporting evidence currently available to me" and " i suspect you", there's nothing wrong. that's pretty cool, although i'm not inclined to believe the floating paper. have you observed him doing this? i didn't even realize paper could easily be lifted like that with static charge. this actually makes me believe that it's real. i can prove to you that electricity can be controlled and generated by humans, most easily through hands. i've observed and participated in the required experiment numerous times. whenever someone who can sense and control chi focuses it inbetween his/her hands, and someone who cannot sense chi puts his/her hand in the middle of the chi user's hands, the person who cannot sense chi always reports tingly electrical feelings. i'll perform some experiments and report back in 10 days when i have access to a voltometer and an electromagnetic field sersor. the moving can can also be explained with electricity creating a magnetic force inbetween the hands (in the center). however, there's also another explanation for the rolling can. that is, chi exists largely as pressure waves within and without the body. these pressure waves can be controlled to create greater pressure at a desired location, such as inbetween the hands. theoretically, the air could be manipulated with pressure waves to provide a lower pressure for the can to be pushed into by the higher pressure on the other side. although, i have no recording equipment that could sense minute variations in pressure like that, so i can't perform any experiments relating to that specifically. oo! please tell me how. would you mind giving a list of your planned experiments so far? also, a list of your psychokinetic accomplishments so far would be useful. i've never tried to do anything psychokinetic, although i have done a bit with something i've started calling psychic compasing. i fan out my fingers, and wait until i feel a psychic pull on my fingers. the direction of the pull is the direction of the thing i'm looking for. although i haven't done any heavy experiments with this yet. the biggest thing i did was feel which elevator would stop on my floor in my direction 10 times out of 10 (at a convention during heavy elevator traffic times). if you have any experiments or accomplishments i can try to replicate/duplicate, i can get my friend to help me (he's much better at sensing and controlling chi than i am, although he also hasn't tried anything on the psychic level yet). also, i recently heard that by willing a die to land on a certain number, the side with that number becomes heavier, and will be more likely to point downwhen it stops rolling. i have yet to experiment with this though. but the implication is that if you have access to a precice scale, you might be able to make something heavier as well. at the same time, i suggest you look into chi and taoism. taoists believe there are 8 chi bodies. the 5th is the psychic. the 1st is the physical. by meditating and learning how to sense and control the lower bodies, you are better able to feel and control the upper bodies. HAhahahahhaha! that's awesome! why would an outside scientist watch? they, like you, wouldn't give it a second thought. no, well documented experiments, video taped and broadcast on youtube, and published on a blog to gain publicity, are the first step. only then will a scientist be willing to stand there and watch. hence why repeat experiments are important. if the experiment is repeated enough times, with controls placed nearby, things like background radiation can be ruled out. however, to demonstrate that the result happens the moment the practitioner uses psi, a video is practically necessary. after reading through all of the posts, i really want to start self-teaching all of the psychokinesis stuff now. i'm getting excited > expect good evidence from me in a year (i'm just setting a deadline). afterwards, i will try to get as many scientists as i can to observe. but, i'm a long way away from all of that right now.

i find that i procrastinate for the same reasons, although i imagine the application of those reasons is different. for example: the reason i dropped out of (US)college (a year ago) is because i found that i disagreed with many things about how the education system works. at the time, i didn't consciously recognize my disagreements for what they were; they were subconscious resistances coupled with an intuitive understanding that a much better method exists. my personality is such that i can never accept anything as necessary. as such, i subconsciously desired a better solution, and resisted going through school "the same old way" because i knew that it wouldn't ever end up changing. since then i've been progresively becoming less depressed. consequently, i believe procrastination is a natural instinct that should be listened to, and is very close, psychologically, to fear. procrastination is perhaps even just an extention of fear. both seem to keep the person out of potentially harmful situations. as another example, i always hated taking showers. i still do. i often only take a shower once a week (i can do this because i don't excercise regularly, and rarely sweat). however, there was one time that i visited a friend who had a shower filter. when i took a shower at his apartment, i felt really good. the water felt really good, and i immediately wanted to take showers more often. unfortunately, i was told about the shower filter before i took a shower, so i can't be entirely sure if the results were instead caused by my thoughts. but, i'm fairly sure what i was feeling was real. after all, chlorine and other tap water additives can easily be absorbed through, or heavily irritate, the skin. additionally, i always procrastinated about washing my hair and brushing my teeth. that is, until i found a healthfood shampoo that didn't leave an aftertaste in my mouth, and a healthfood toothpaste with very few chemicals and no fluoride. of course, this doesn't say anything about the type of procrastination that's pure laziness. except in circumstances where laziness is caused by depressing conditions, and procrastination takes the person away from those depressing conditions.

the original example (or at least, an example that's easier to understand) is: you have a super computer that predicts the weather, by computing every single movement on earth. the creators of the super computer forgot about one butterfly somewhere in Japan. over the course of a few years, the computer would predict the weather perfectly. but over time, because of the accumulation of additional movement caused by the butterfly, and the butterfly's interractions with other butterflies and creatures, the weather predictions would slowly become slightly off. after a couple decades, that lightning storm might start a few hours later, and that hurricane might hit a couple miles south. over the course of a century, the butterfly's existance has changed the movement of all animals in a very large area, to a large extent. the changes will escalate to the point when the super computer will eventually be completely wrong.

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What's Wrong with Blasphemy? a great video on youtube, of some TV special, that covers this subect quite well. i'm sorry, but the only advice i can give is in the form of life lessons, such as: never judge others; and always strive for compassion towards everyone.

sorry. you're right, i should have said i was being sarcastic with that specific comment. although i do have a reference: the majority of students and teachers. the point, however, is that textbooks contain a lot of information, but it's often hard to extract that information from them. and more than that, the information often contained in textbooks isn't very helpful for learning, beause they are often designed for a specific curriculum. using the textbook to extend from the curriculum is often really hard. of course there are textbooks that are good. and of course there are cases where textbooks are useful. and of course students are free to read all of the textbooks they want. but this thread is about the teachers, and teachers should stay away from textbooks in general.

i always thought that was what pseuoscience is: an inability to perform normal scientific methods, due to the nature of the subject. and should thus always be treated as speculative, or a hypothesis waiting for evidence to appear. if it is the case that the difference between pseudoscience and science is in the performer - whether the person is speculative or biased-ly assertive - then we can not rightly label certain subjects as pseudoscience, as there is a way to make anything speculative, and there is a way to make anything biased.

drama is really annoying. all of what you said centers around disrespect and dehumanization: seeing other people as human beings capable of their own thoughts and actions, capable of learning, and capable of having good reasons for everything they do and think. i was recently involved in some drama on LiveJournal, in which i got in two debates with a friend's friends on an emotional topic (for them). the topic was: the effectiveness of Prozac, and potential problems; and the effectiveness of western medicine and psychology practices on depression. in the first debate, i realized that my bias against Prozac affected my ability to see the truth of the situation. whether i was right or wrong, my bias posed the problem of influencing my interpretation of evidence. i admitted that, and ended the dabate because i didn't have enough knowledge of the subject. in the second debate, my oponent did not adress my arguments in any way, and continued to support his own argument through opinions, rather than reasoning. in the end of the debate, i realized we were arguing about two slighly different things. thus the majority of the debate (if it can be called that) was based on misunderstandings. the result is that the majority of my friend's friends became biased against me, and so did my friend. one person became so biased that he said nothing towards me except very pitiful bully tactics. when one person (anonymously, and emotionally) said he/she disapproved of how everyone has reacted, the people who became biased against me jumped to conclusions as to who the anonymous poster was, and started blaming eachother. it was kind of frightening; the knowledge that i now had the power to completely destroy everyone's friendship at that moment. if i had said "thank you, [name of my chosing], for supporting me", the friendship they had would have fallen apart. it was disappointing and depressing to see such a fragile situation. it's as if none of them had any integrity or compassion. it's truly amazing to see lifelong friendships fall apart in an instant because of a bias. so my answer is 2 things: never be afraid of anything. never dehumanize anyone.

1) stay as far away from the textbook as humanly possible. it's a known fact that textbook are hard to extract useful information from. also, most students hate textbooks. for a reason. 2) always connect what you are currently teaching with what you previously taught, even if it's a stretch. this allows the students to actually remember what they previously learned. 3) only give out homework if the homework does not have a monotone feeling. meaning: no repeating problems unless they are optional, and no forced structure. 4) never teach something without telling the students what you expect them to learn. 5) never assign anything without giving the students a valid reason. "because it will help you learn" is not a valid reason. "because you need the grade" is not a valid reason. "because it will help you remember" is not a valid reason. "because it goes along with what we've been learning" is not a valid reason. a true valid reason will allow the students to complete the assignment in the desired way, and to learn from the assignment what was meant to be learned. 6) students have to experiment, make mistakes, and fail, in order to learn anything. if students are not allowed to try a new structure. nay, if students are not encouraged to try a new structure at their will; and if students are not encouraged to fail, learning will not take place. what takes place instead is known as "memorization" and "brainwashing". 7) always. always trust and respect your students. they are your equals. never think of your students as objects, and never lump them into the category of "students" or "children". let it be known. i dropped out of college. the reason: because i haven't found any teachers who do the above. and because after talking to a lot of people who go to different schools at differet grades, i found out that teachers who do any of the above are extremely rare, and discouraged by the curriculum. so above all, the thing that makes a great teacher: 8) don't be afraid of anything. especially don't be afraid of losing your job or reputation. especially don't be afraid of going against what your superiors tell you to do. a great teacher will have students wanting to learn from him/her, even if and long after that teacher gets fired. a great teacher will realize that school is not just a place to gain knowledge, but also a place to gain experience, have fun, and make connections. a great teacher will realize that students should be able to leave anytime they want. and a great teacher will realize that students should also be afraid of nothing. not even failing. not even getting kicked out of school. and lastly, a great teacher will realize that 'respect' does not mean 'worship' or 'obey'; and respect does not come with a title.

i'm sorry, by "prove it to be impossible", i meant to imply that they are not doing any cross-checking or looking for evidence toward the contrary, but instead look for mistakes to show that it's inherently wrong. i meant "prove it to be impossible" as opposed to "supply evidence to show how possible/impossible it potentially is." i totally agree. too bad there's not very much of that happening. there's actually more common sense and proper scientific investigative behavior found on the side agreeing with the aliens. or i guess, to put it more accurately, everyone who has any bit of bias in this instance, for the most part, has shown to be completely incapable of proper scientific investigative behavior. this includes the vast majority of scientists, and a large portion of antient astronaut theory believers. this tends to not include a good portion of science or philosophy hobbyists. i would say David Icke is doing the most proper scientific investigative behavior, compared to everyone else. and unfortunately about satelite images... the idea that this supposed planet is capable of penetrating the inner solar system in a 3600 year orbit means that it's not moving enough side-to-side to be able to notice it in setelite images, especially right now when it's heading in pretty much a straight line toward the inner solar system. i totally agree. i don't actually know much at all about Sitchin though, so i tend to have some bias against him. i should do more research on him. but Icke i totally respect. because he has traveled the world searching for and gathering information on the beliefs of hundreds of ancient cultures. quite amazing scholarly work.

nope, lol. well, unless you count big similarities in ancient cultures' beliefs. yeah. and unfortunately, that means the evidence for it comes in the form of alien abductions and ancient cultures. and the evidence against it comes in the form of trying to find ways to prove it to be impossible. if only that were possible, lol. for many people, yeah. and looking at many believers' websites, they support alien interference for some of the same flawed reasons christians support creation. reasons such as, "if humans evolved from apes, why are there still apes around??" it's interresting actually. the ancient astronaut theory is like the level above the New World Order conspiracy theory. meaning that the reptilian aliens are controlling everything. so, if it were the case that this is true, then WMDs would certainly play - and have already played - a major role. after watching the video interview, i actually recommend everyone try to watch it (or at least the first 3 hours of it). if nothing else, because the interviewee is one of the few people left who has knowledge of the original beliefs of the Zulu people. and as he said (paraphrasing) "there is no african culture which does not believe in gods that came from the sky in large crafts" and also, "the Zulu people were actually the first to know something that Einstein descovered, and that is that space and time are the same." he also gives a very good insight on alien abductions. he quite realistically (assuming they're all real in the first place, of course) connects the "Greys" to the reptilian aliens, and connects most other differences in alien abduction stories. if nothing else, it's a very interresting, deep, and detailed... history. i can't think of a better word, because it's not just a story, and it's not just a cultural belief. it's like... an alternate version of our known world, like reading a very well thought out trilogy.

yeah, i'm aware that you were joking. and as such, i pointed out the obvious difference between your nonsense conjecture and the Kerry & Bush conspiracy theory, while pointing out that everything is technically possible. i mean sure, many conspiracy theories are just plain nuts. but if you use that as an argument, you're stereotyping and letting your bias completely influence you. and as such, i have absolutely no reason to think you know what you're talking about. so far, you have failed to even adress the conspiracy theory i mentioned, and yet you still support that it's wrong. why is that? i have provided a bit of evidence, and i would appreciate it if you either refuted that evidence or provided some evidence toward the contrary. so far, you have only used 2 fallacious arguments to support your side. please tell me how "the conspiracy theory that Kerry intentionally tanked the election is chock full of nuts."

not unless you don't consider sociopaths to be humans beings. and even then, you'd have to not even consider them as logic-using machines to want them out of democracy. how is it physically tested for anyway? i was under the impression that it was mainly mental.

there is another theory(/hypothesis/conjecture) that deals with this. it's about the Anunnaki: ancient sumerian gods, and is called the ancient astronaut theory their planet is "the 12th planet" (and the sun and moon are considered "planets" in this, apparently). supposedly this "12th planet", called Nibiru has a very weird orbit: it comes within the inner solar system once every "3,600 years", once during it's orbit. and supposedly, the Anunnaki use that time to observe and influence Earth. some believe that Eris (the "10th planet from the sun", now officially considered a drawf planet) is Nibiru. but while Eris's orbit roughly fits the description of the shape (comes within [or very close to] Pluto's orbit once during it's strange orbit), it orbits vastly quicker (557 year orbit), and doesn't reach the inner solar system. also, some people claim that the last time "the 12th planet" came closest to earth was the time of "the great flood" in the Bible, and the next time will bring the apocolypse. Zecharia Sitchin, the founder of the alien astronaut theory, "has recently put forth his own date for the next passage of Nibiru in the year 2085, but the date most talked about is 2012 which marks the end of the Maya calendar." all of this seems really...... improbable. *edit* also, most believe that the Anunnaki aliens are reptilian in appearance and nature. This is a good video on the whole reptilian alien thing. the video includes an interview with Zulu shaman: Credo Mutwa, who has been passed on knowledge of history by a group of his people, and mentions reptilian aliens without influence from the ancient asronaut theory. David Icke is the interviewer.

it's possible. but he's not a member of the Skull and Bones society. also, if Dean was winning the primaries, and his intent was to let GW win, he could have done so during the presidential election, and his Dean Scream wouldn't matter at all. it's equally possible that the "Deaen Scream" was purposefully caused by anyone who had some control of the technical details of the situation that made Dean's voice seem like a pointless scream (specifically: whether the microphone was noise-filtering or not), or that it was sabotaged in that way.

about which part? 1) durring the presidential campaign and debates, many people watching John Kerry were wondereing why he didn't take the many chances he had to demolish Bush. many wondered why it seemed like Kerry wasn't even trying. Here is a video of the first 2004 presidential debates. compare that with this video of Kerry's speech at the 2003 democratic convention. 2) The Skull and Bones sociecy is a secret society in Yale. John Kerry and George Bush Jr. are members. whether that means anything about the election, i have no idea, because they're a secret society. so this argument is extremely weak. the point being that they have a deep history, and it's concievable that they are in league. This is a link to the basic conspiracy theory surrounding this society and the 2004 election. 3) the democratic primaries used the same machines as the presidential election. there is almost as much controversy over the primaries as there is over the presidential election relating to the new machines. only, the primaries controversy is a lot less known (and hard to find on google). 4) in the primaries, Kerry used a lot of foul play to destroy his opponents. especially against Howard Dean, who was actually in the lead in tracking polls in most areas. 5) wikipedia has a good log of the 2004 presidential election timeline. a bit more than halfway down the page, there is an "in-depth analysis of the week of 2004 election", in which, listed under November 3, is: "- On a special edition of Today, Tom Brokaw announces that NBC News will not call any more states for either candidate as long as the Kerry camp contests the Bush win in Ohio. This puts the NBC News electoral vote count at 269 for Bush and 238 for Kerry. - White House Chief of Staff Andy Card claims victory for Bush before Kerry concedes or any of the networks call a winner. - AP & CNN report Kerry has called Bush and conceded the election. - Kerry conceded at 2 p.m. EST CNN, NPR; ABC finally calls Ohio for Bush - Bush declared victory at 3 p.m. EST saying, "America has spoken, and I'm humbled by the trust and the confidence of my fellow citizens. With that trust comes a duty to serve all Americans. And I will do my best to fulfill that duty every day as your president." Networks have still not declared victors in several states. - "Black Box Voting (.ORG) is conducting the largest Freedom of Information action in history. At 8:30 p.m. Election Night, Black Box Voting blanketed the U.S. with the first in a series of public records requests, to obtain internal computer logs and other documents from 3,000 individual counties and townships. Networks called the election before anyone bothered to perform even the most rudimentary audit." http://blackboxvoting.org/#foia " John Kerry conceded before the election results were known, and before controversy over the process could be voiced. i assure you, i am not joking at all. i believe the conspiracy theory that says Kerry was planted into the presidential election so that Bush would win.

has anyone mentioned yet the obvious failure of the democratic candidate John Kerry? and how he might have purposefully lost to Bush? and how he might be blood brotheres with Bush in a secret society stationed in Yale ("Skull and Bones")? how about the democratic primaries? those were potentially stolen also. and the amount of foul play by Kerry is enormous. how about the fact that Kerry conceded before the election results were announced? and the conspiracy theory that suggests Kerry planned to concede no matter what?

i wish this thread were continued. i, unfortunately, don't have enough knowledge to debate many arguments i might have toward the idea that the government is seperate from the people in today's culture. as a side note before i get to the main point of my response, i want to say that i completely agree with Sisyphus's asessment of my quote. that is, that it is obviously not stricly accurate, and it's not particularly fair. it merely points out the two ends of the gradient. i suggest that the graph of this gradient is approximately the opposite of a bell curve. because i can't give a good description or list of ways the government is seperate from the people, i'm going to let videos do the work for me. This video (at the bottom of the page) is an interview with the director of the muckraker film America: Freedom to Fascism. this interview focuses on how and why current US money is completely corrupt. I highly recommend watching this interview in it's entirety, if nothing else. This video is the first half of FoX News' interview with Bill Clinton. this half of the intereview focuses on the trickery of the republican party. or rather, the trickery of the Bush administration. (here is the second half of the interview if anyone's interrested) the extended conclusion from this interview is the realization that scandals are designed to get the general population to completely disassociate thoughts and ideas of the goverenment from the true actions of the government. this holds true no matter which party is targeted. as an additional consequence to scandals, the general population tends to disassociate themselves from the opposite party. as a consequence to that disassociation, the general population feels that the opposite party is not a goverenment for them, but for the opposite party. adressing the P.A.T.R.I.O.T. act: this is a specific example of how the general population is largely split into two halves. one believing that the government should be a god-like entity protecting it's people, and the other believing that the government should stay out of people's lives. another example is gun control. in this example, "the government" includes police. a third example is drug control. "the war on terror" (or, "the long war") enhances a few other half-half splits like above. college is something that also reinforces the seperation of the people from the government. simply because it [quite forcefully] encourages students to completeely follow a path in life that is considered "appropriate" (meaning: complete obediance to higher powers). i'll admit, part of the reason i feel that the government is against me is because i feel like college (and highscool) ruined 4 years of my life. there are a bunch of ways now that "the government" can cause a new world order. one involves war and fear. another involves money and economic depression. another involves food and exchange. another involves martial law and control. another involves drugs and forced administration (for example of how this is possible: flouride; mercury-stored vaccines). it's very, very scary how much power the US government currently has over 1) the US population 2) the world. there are even ways the current US government could create a new world order from a largescale civil war.

i read that there is no national drinking age. it is simply that every state has been basically blackmailed into raising the legal state drinking age from 18 to 21. it is a law that is entirely arguable as to it's validity on every level, and is therefore subject to heavy disagreement and rebellion. taken from the facebook group: Reduce the Drinking Age to 18! "The current legally drinking age was made possible by the 1984 Federal Highway Act. This blackmailed all states into enacting a drinking age of 21 by threatening states with a reduction in federal highway funding if they did not comply. By 1988 every state in the US enacted a drinking age of 21. Instead of focusing on the drinking age to combat drunk driving, we should instead focus on educating our youth about responsible drinking and the dangers of drunk driving and binge drinking." the only state that is capable of economically surviving the reduced federal funding is California.

1) yeah, Uri Geller was quite obviously fake. or rather, had nothing to do with psychic abilities. and i don't know anything about Randi. 2) nah. it's falsifiable, but only if it's heavily and accurately studied. 3) yes. that was my point. that it's possible it's a cognitive bias. 4) true. let me again rephrase that: "chi is something many people believe exists because they can feel it." however, some of these people are bound to be very simplt cognitively biased. 5) that's not true. chi simply isn't mentioned in the current model. there have been no quantum experiments involving chi, so there's no way anyone could know if chi works with the current model or not. 6) well, the first 4 bodies are completely true. the physical body is completely understood. as i said, i believe the chi body is simply electricity, implying neurons, and probably deals with heat too, implying blood flow. the 3rd and 4th bodies are both understood by psychology (the 4th level is somewhat advanced psychology). the 3rd level is emotions. those are quite well understood, and definitely real, and are caused by horomones, and i think by some chemical balances in the brain (and i've heard a claim of neurons surrounding the heart, but i have no idea about the validity of that). the 4th body is more complicated, but is definitely real. it deals with recognition of the difference between a person's "mask", and who the person truly is underneath the "mask". the 4th body also deals with the difference between what someone desires, and what someone actually does. i'm guessing that "real and false" is mostly chemical balances in the brain. it's the 5th, 6th, 7th, and 8th bodies that are currently understood as nonsense (i don't really believe them either yet, because i'm still discovering the 5th body). 7) that was actually my entire point. that the 2nd body is probably electricity (and i just realized, probably heat also). meaning neurons and blood flow. the 3rd body, emotions, deals heavily with horomones, which are often designed to be smelled by other people, even subtely. horomones could realistically travel through the size of a room. the 4th body... i have no idea how that's sensed. i have a good recognition of it in other people, and i think i sense it by sensing very subtle variations in other senses. i usually see it in people's faces (they look relatively blank if they're being false). as for the 5th body: psychic "vibes" people can get from other people or objects even without the use of sight or hearing, i have no idea. but i have observed evidence that it is possible in some way or another (without petty tricks). also, the extent of which it is possible, i have no idea. i don't yet believe in ghosts or precognition or clairvoyance or telekinesis. 8) chi is not in the same bin as mythical beasts. you mentioned a lot of beasts there, but they're all lumped into the category of "mythical entities". chi is not the same because 1) it's form is extremely variable and misunderstood 2) many people have realistically sensed it 3) there hasn't been much reliable evidence for or against it through scientific methods.

1) when i learn to do it, i'll definitely get that prize. 2) let me reprase that: "i have personally experienced feelings that i cannot describe in any way other than 'psychic powers', recognizing that 'psychic powers' is a very general term that could easily apply to sensations that are too small to be noticed." everything i said is very real. how or why i feel that way, i have no idea. it could very well be that i'm feeling something simply because i want to. the problem is, whenever 'psychic powers' are mentioned, it has to involve pseudoscience unless you're not willing to mention or explore all possibilities. 3) none of those are definite statements. and all of them are biased. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qigong http://www.matzkefamily.net/doug/papers/tucson2b.html http://www.meaningoflife.i12.com/taichi.htm Chi is not something that does or does not exist. Chi is something that many people know for a fact exists, because they can feel it in their bodies, and in other people. i have myself felt something along the lines of Chi, but i have no idea if it actually is Chi or not until i experiment with it a lot more. yet the scientific community believes that chi is not worth experimentation, and thus chose not to waste time trying to perform reliable experiments. most scientific experiments to date have not shown any evidence for or against chi. also, Chi is not a single thing, Chi includes 8 different things. Taoism teaches that there are 8 bodies. the first is the physical body. the second is the chi body, which directs the physical body (i think it's simply electricity). the third is the emotional body. the fourth is the mental body, which deals with what is real or fake. the fifth is the psychic body, which includes most common psychic abilities (i don't know if i believe in that. i haven't felt the 5th body or above yet). i don't know much about the 6th, 7th, or 8th bodies. i know the 6th deals with causality, and the 7th deals with chaos. and the 8th is supposedly the Tao itself, which is like everything, or god, or whatever. each body vibrates at a higher frequency than the previous bodies, and also encompases a larger area. the second body extends 3-24 inches away from the physical body. the emotional body extends something like 10-50 feet away from the physical body. some teachings say the emotional body can extend over the entire planet, but geenerally people say it encompasses a single room. the 8th body supposedly encompases the universe. all of these bodies are different chis. i would say that hammerhead sharks sense the 2nd body of it's prey, but i have no idea. and anything beyond that, i have no idea if it can really be sensed in other people, because i have not explicitly sensed it myself. the point is, though, that it all remains a possibility, because it hasn't been sufficiently scientifically studied, and because i and a few people i know have definitely felt something beyond our physical senses. you're right ^^ i should have said: avoid mainstream advertised chemicals. especially chlorine and flourine (i don't remember ever seeing H2O2 and baking soda advertised). there's so much wrong with our food that i can't at all give a list of stuff to avoid, and it's nearly impossible to avoid it all. just be careful is all. because i can't. because 1) i don't have the ability to perform scientific experiments (unless you include things like predicting which elevator will pick me up). and 2) i haven't ever really tried to do anything more than what i said above. it's not an ability that people have or they don't, it's an ability that's akin to controlling your heartrate, or your emotions. it comes from lots of meditation on it, and i haven't ever tried. i'm working on controlling my emotions first. and 3) these 'scientific experiments' aren't accurate. like i explained about the 5 different cards experiment. i have a feeling for the first few, then i lose sight of my feeling for the next few, then i have no feeling at all for the rest. the feeling itself is the 'psychic' aspect of it. for a scientific experiment to say "# predicted correctly out of #" is just wrong. a true scientific experiment with the cards would be, "# preedicted correctly out of #. # predicted correctly out of # the experimentee knew would be predicted correctly . # predicted correctly out of # the experimentee did not know would be predicted correctly."

the only realistic telekinetic powers i'm aware of involve controlling your brainwaves, which takes tens of years of meditation practice to completely quiet your mind. i've been told that it's possible (theoretically) to control your brainwaves to the point where you can create a very strong specific frequency with little extra "noise", at which point it would be possible to vibrate nearby objects, theoretically even destroying them by vibrating them at their resonance frequencies. i've never heard of realistically moving objects with the mind, however. even that psychokinesis page you linked to only deals with rotating the objects, by making them attracted to or repelled by your hands somehow. i know of someone who can influence other people's brainwaves to make them experience the effects of drugs (like alcohol or marijuana). advanced acting classes include chi exercises which involve increasing and extending one's chi into the audience, to get them to feel what the actor is feeling. i have peresonally experienced psychic powers, where i can predict things. i have successfully predicted which elevator (out of 4) would pick me up 10 times in a row (i only started trying 10 elevators ago). the first 8 weere done at a scifi convention. 4 of them involved 4 elevators coming toward my floor at the same time. 2 of them involved an elevator stopping at my floor, but going in the wrong direction. i didn't just guess, i position myself in the middle of them, facing toward one of the halls, close my eyes, and i literally feel which one it will be. i've done those prediction which card will turn over things before too. i always successfully predict the first 3-4 (and i know beforehand that i'm right). then the next few i have a gut feeling, but instead go with what my brain predicts, and my gut feeling turns out right. then the rest, i get so confused that i have no idea, so i just randomly guess. the result turns out to be no better than statistically plausible. it's quite possible to be psychic in relation to many things, but it's very easy to confuse what you're feeling with something else. realistically bending spoons involves vibrating the hand holding or touching the spoon really quickly and strongly, in a way that concentrates the vibrations at a specific point (such as the thinnest point). similarly, it's possible to punch a stack of blocks, and break only a specific block of your choice (ie: the 5th one down in a stack of 11). you can physically send heavy objects flying across the room by creating a very long wave in your body, and transferring it into the heavy object. i know of a substance which will help along these lines, but it's not a food (you could call it a drug, or a suppliment, but it's neither). if you want a food that will help you with this, eat healthy: avoid fast foods, avoid the microwave, avoid most chemicals. buy a water filter (for your shower too), and avoid flouride at all costs (use natural toothpastes, or just use H2O2 and baking soda as toothpase and mouthwash). the substance i was referring to is Etherium White Gold (it's not just gold). i have not tried this myself yet, nor do i know anyone who has tried it (i intend to within the month, though).

i'm really starting to question everything related to gender. in general: guys treat girls badly. girls cheat on guys. guys want love a lot more than everyone gives them credit for. girls want sex a lot more than everyone gives them credit for. every dysfunctional love story i have ever heard involves one of 2 things: 1) stupidity on the part of the girl in relation to sex: - the mistake of directly associating sex with love. - bottled up sexuality being released. - cheating. 2) stupidity on the part of the guy in relation to the girl's humanity: - obsessing. - controlling. i often hear of extremely permiscuous guys. but even more often than that, i hear about girls who were "used" by said guys. more often than not, the girl knows exactly who the guys is and what he wants, and what's going to happen at the end of the night. said girls often use drinking as an excuse. alcohol does not have such a large effect.

i saw something on that too. i think i saw it on 'Ripley's Believe it or Not!' 3 or 4 years ago. they also started a school to teach other blind people how to do it. so just now i searched "human echolocation" on google. Horray for Wikipedia! it can apparently also be used with any object that makes a distinguished clicking noise. i imagine people have used their canes for it before. And here's an article on Ben Underwood, who started training himself to use echolocation when he was 10 years old. And this article (also linked to by the second article) suggests that all manner of sounds can be used, including human speach. "All subjects also oscillated their heads from side to side.... In this way the blind could enhance binaural localization of sound". And here's an article which is momre directly about Ben Underwood. he's quoted a lot in this article, and linked is a video of him playing with a dolphin. World Access for the Blind is the school Dan Kish started to teach echolocation. And this article says (on page 3), "The bottom line: Human beings send out sounds at much slower rates and lower frequencies, so the objects people can picture with echolocation must be much larger than the ones bats and dolphins can find." which implies that if people learned how to click using their voices rather than their tongues, they could echolocate much more accurately. or, if a device were created that makes clicks much more frequently and at a higher frequency (perhaps controlled by voice to vary frequency and spacing), the users could echolocate much more accurately as well. of course, there's a limit as to how much sound information the brain can process compared to bats or dolphins, but still. that was a fun net surf

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