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Thanks, Azure. So, not having the tree available in front of me, would you say the rattus is older or newer than the pack rat? Guess that since you referred to rattus as old world, does that imply older?

Apparently, the pack rat is not a member of the Rattus genus. It has another, but not able to figure out why. Geez, if it looks like a rat, walks like a rat, squeals like a rat, shouldnt it be a member of the Rattus Genus? (funny, I asked once where does the Norway rat come from......it is not Norway. Guess it actually came from the far east....China??)

I dunno, Skeptic Mr. The Psych "profession" has been an utter failure in their effort to "fix" peoples problems in the past 80 years. Their arbitrary development of "diseases" such as ADHD, Bipolar disorder, HDD, ADD, etc etc etc etc. And how they misuse the term "chemical imbalance" without credible/objective/analytical test results........totally lacking foundation other than consensus only among those in the field. Then they use their diagnoses to drug huge numbers of our children, with the blessing of Bristol-Meyers. Dont have a specific reference right now, just remember that from a while back. I'll take the Excorcist.....LOL

Thanks, charon. So I guess one should treat chicken meat like hamburger.....cook it thoroughly? Dang, my wife was right........

Hi people, Not sure if the bacteria actually lives inside the chicken's tissues or just in its intestines. Of course, we know one should "cook chicken fully", etc etc. Is that cuz the bacteria could be on the exterior surface of the meat, like e coli gets on the surface of steak. UNlike trichina in pork, which lives inside the tissues, I understand. So, is the salmonella advice on chicken cuz it can get on the surface from preparation practices/accidental contact, or otherwise? I know on eggs, the bacteria does not live in the egg itself, but can be transferred to the egg once cracked and it runs out over the shell........thats the danger there. Thanks!

Thanks, Ringer. I did look at the site, and read it. I agree with most of it, but he goes on to remind us of historical personalities that married their first cousin, royalty, etc. Of course, one can consider it a benefit to inbreed if one 's goal is to accentuate a trait- fatter breast meat in chickens, or silkier , thicker pelts in mink, etc, BUT there is no way you can deny that while yes, you have a greater chance of obtaining that trait in the next progeny, you will increase the risk for recessive /hidden trraits that will present itself with the offspring. This is risky business, any way you cut it. Thats why breeders commonly introduce "fresh blood" into their herd periodically, despite them knowing it will "dilute" their traits they have been working hard for years to conserve. Not to over do this small animnal breeding thing, but, some breeders accept their much lower survival rate in their yearly production and even boast of it, emphasising instead their "purer line" of that breed stock. Its all what one is aiming for......

I dunno, skeptic, then why not very long ago the tallest people were in Sudan, which = starvation/war/disease/poor nutrition as a whole, as in eat mostly rice in bags. Recently, the tallest are in Denmark/Norway. Kinda like the Viking spirit, eh? Incidentally, those are the richest countries in the world (or in the top 5 or so). Anyway, I find the sudanese thing quite shocking. To me its genetics, #1. You see it also in animal husbandry, especially the smaller the animal, the most research proven. For example, mink farms-typically hold 20-80,000 mink. generations /genetics change quickly, unlike bovines. The biggest factor in raising huge mink is genetics, not nutrition. Are men like mink?

Thanks for the reply. No gene pool? So, wheres the line one draws for a population too small for a gene pool and one that is large "enough"? 24 cranes are too small but say, 200 cranes are about right? I didnt know that about cats. Man, how are they immune (pun?) from inbreeding? recessive genes for diseases become pronounced when inbreed, I understood ..........

Thanks, people. That sure clears it up quite well for me. Its been 30 yrs since bio classes (went into Chem instead). Sure, I guess then if the mutation is dominant, it passes it on. If its recessive, no, right? Still, a related point, how can the cranes multiply well as they did ? maybe its too soon to tell??

Hi People, OK, evolution occurs with a natural random mutation on the DNA strand. If that new specie/variation occurs timely with a change in the environmant which favors that change, that specie has an advantage. BUT, that new organism needs a mate, male/female with that same freak chance of mutation to have occured. Yes, this takes a few hundred thousand years....math takes time. Its all math, you know. Still, you have biologists explaining how if a specie does not have a critical gene pool, it dies off. For example, there have been dwindling populations of say, an endangered specie. There are 24 left (whooping crane in the late 70's). Then that species gene pool is low, weak genes/inbreeding, population dies out. Then how in the jheck are those 2 mutants that find each other can advance a new specie and generate huge new successful populations??? Thanks!

Wow, didnt know that. Even neoprene? Most I work with is 1000ppm CN....pretty weak. You can smell the sweetness when opening up a botle of KCN........

Just thought maybe I posted in the wrong forum last time. I have trouble with formazin solutions.....usually last for 3 months at the most. But heard about these newer non formazin type turbidity stds. Anybody use these?? Thanks, Men!

Hmmmm, right about picric. I believe that is a close relative to TNT, no? Picric is OK as long as you keep it DAMP. Worked with it for years making hospital fixatives....... Perchloric acid though, gets a bad rap. It is perfectly safe away from a , what I would call a building fire....LOL. Have handled about 100 55 gal drums over the years. You could dip your hand in it and no hurts (for a few seconds). Keep it away from organics, and FIRE....

Hi People, Trying to make turbidity standards (NTU), but non formazin type. That is the new way to go, as formazin degrades quickly. Any tips appreciated.

Find an MSDS on that, then go down to the toxicology section. It could have LD 50's on rats, rabbits, etc etc.......Kinda cruel, I know......

Funny.....the lizard in an egg thing......kinda like the Bots growing under human skin....LOL Thanks guys, for all the info. Only other thing that bugs me (a pun??) is why is e coli in mammals and salmonella in birds?? Couldnt the e coli figure out it could invade ALL vertebrate intestinal tracts?

Hi people, You know how people advise to cook eggs well to "destroy" salmonella?? Well, I need to learn how Sal gets in an egg in the first place. Im guessing (UN- educated guess) that an egg when formed in the uterus is in a sterile environment (or is it the outside shell that contaminates the innards whilst cracking the egg), much like urine formed in the bladder collected from ureters is sterile. Comments/advise appreciated!!!

Hmmm, I understand the drawback to H2O2 on teeth has an weakening effect on enamel. That is not worth it, Man........maybe a dentist here could offer advice?

I kinow this is kind of old now, but just came across this and thought it would be relevant to this subject: Oxygen therapy * Hydrogen peroxide, diluted in water, is commonly used as a bleach and a disinfectant. Some alternative health practitioners advocate drinking, injecting or bathing in weak solutions of this chemical as a cure for AIDS, flu, cancer and other illnesses. There is no evidence to support these claims. Several people have died as a result of swallowing or injecting hydrogen peroxide.56 57 * Ozone is an unstable form of oxygen gas. Ozone therapy has been proposed as a treatment or cure for many illnesses, including HIV infection. One delivery method is autohemotherapy, which involves removing some of a patient’s blood, exposing it to ozone, and then putting it back into the patient. Alternatives include pumping the gas into the rectum, drinking water containing ozone bubbles (ozonized water, which contains hydrogen peroxide), or injecting the gas into the bloodstream. Studies of ozone autohemotherapy in HIV positive people have found it has no significant effect on CD4 counts and other outcomes.58 Yup, sure is looking like Quackery with every new day........Gees, Im usually trying to get excess gas OUT of the rectum, and theyre suggesting to pump it in (shaking head, what will they print next)........

good source, string. Thanks. The article noted that much still is unknown, but they go on with the nose WILL know. Reminds me once as a kid, I caught 5 or so eels, put them in the garage intending to clean them within an hour, forgot them in there the whole weekend. Whoooooooooah!!

Thanks, alien. So, in that study, could we deduce that the rats' dissappearence of tumors was due to something else? Faulty/old school science? Lack of true cause/effect relationship? (Im just wondering how these guys even got papers published and have gone down in at least some history, albeit somewhat obscure........

Hmm, before I threw the book out, I glanced at it one more time and found this: Clinical Studies In the 1950s Dr. Reginald Holman tested H2O2 on rats implanted with Walker 256 adenocarcinoma tumors. Their drinking water was replaced by a dilute solution of hydrogen peroxide. The optimal concentration was reported to be 0.45 percent, and complete disappearance of the tumors was reported to exist from fifteen to sixty days. (9) In 1982 Winifred Wirth reported on the effective use of oral H2O2 in the treatment of laboratory mice infected with Ehrlich carcinoma. Effectiveness was judged by the decrease in mortality and the delayed onset of palpable tumor incidence. (18) I googled lots of other "studies" and man, a lot of PhD's/Doctors in the past were into this stuff. Im no sympathizer with pharmaceuticals, as I believe they are just out for themselves-the empire and all.....A drug for everything. (They are one of the biggest if not the biggest spender on TV ads today) Cant it be that , like white blood cells, H2O2 can be good AND yet sometinmes develop into a bad situation?

Fish have to be placed on ice asap after caught. I remember if not, an enzyme/whatever starts converting stuff into stinks like the famous amines. Anyone know the details/correct explanation? Thanks!

Ive quit reading the book"one minute cure". I will advise my buddy to donate the gallon of peroxide to my lab. At least, I can use it to clean permanganate residue, right? LOL

Saw one of those Japanese toilets at EPCOT years ago......maybe in the 1990's. It went for $6000 back then.