Sayonara

Silence your meat mouth full of corn, Earth worm baby.

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Or go one better and sing the Wrong Song.

Damn you atm - I just spent the past 15 minutes looking for those sword posts in this giant thread. Posts #264-274 or thereabouts. We are retreading old ground here. Most of the arguments from the first 30 replies are now being endlessly repeated.

Bush is not being criticised for acting on vague evidence over Iraq; he's being criticised for circumventing the UN and ignoring international law. So it might be an interesting observation but it's also flippant and inaccurate. Who? Me personally?

Was war actually declared against the regime at any point, or is this still classed as a military invasion and occupation?

lol lol a/s/l? lol 25/m/UK

This being the exobiology forum, the over-riding assumption is that life can evolve off Earth. God arguments are redundant in exobiology. We're looking for life because we already expect it to be there.

He kind of went crazy and then left.

I don't think anarchy would work with populations as densely packed as humanity. If there were fewer people, maybe.

I'm guessing the civilisations where everyone makes decisions for themselves, without electing a body to represent the society as a whole, are pretty much going to be short-lived chaotic hell holes.

Already did: http://www.scienceforums.net/forums/showthread.php?t=4172

Latex is broken for the moment. The forum upgrade squished it. Afaik blike is working on getting it fixed.

For the past few centuries, that has been society. Not in dispute. See: dangerous Irrelevant.

If Blike ever gets around to fixing or removing the Latex module on the forums, check out this thread: http://www.scienceforums.net/forums/showthread.php?t=3547

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The reason the intended use of a man-made object is so important to this discussion is that we have a tendency to redesign things until they perform optimally for that purpose, and not so efficiently at random purpose X. Objects that are not man made rarely have the same qualities required for causing deathness as their fabricated equivalents. Hence a sub-machine gun is great for cutting down a crowd of rampaging monsters, whereas a kitchen knife isn't. A pistol is great for conventiently portioned stopping power, but a stone is just going to take someone's eye out*. * 'parents' joke

What?

Laws are a system of control we invented in order to allow society to protect rights. The reason laws have to exist is because different cultures - in fact, even different regions within some countries, a la United States - have reason to enforce protection of those rights in different ways. The rights come first. The laws follow. I don't see how you have an argument there that makes peoples' rights subjective.

Biology Forums seems to have vanished, btw.

That was nice and objective.

You can normally tell, from subtle clues like "hey that guy Timokay has great theories he is really clever KILL SAYONARA KILL HIM HE IS EVIL!"

That doesn't really help at all though, does it? We're discussing whether people should have the right to own whatever guns they want, not whether we think those rights need laws to make them enforceable.

Riiiiight.