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With all we’ve covered and with all the research material we’ve engaged, I feel we’ve been distracted and we’re still missing the point. It’s all my fault. I allowed myself to be drawn into a discussion on how the concept I’ve introduced is somehow inconsistent with already modeled and already proven experimental theories. That is not true. In fact, what is presently being pursued in physics research is the basis for my theory which is directly consistent with all substantiated discovery. The sad thing is, some of my terminology has been inconsistent because of my limited understanding of some of the interrelated research pursuits. So if anything I have stated or suggested appears to be inconsistent it’s because my terminology has been imprecise, but the basic concept is still fully consistent. Please invest just a littlr time to review the material I have posted in this thread and I believe you will see this is true, Even though experiments are being done which could indicate the presence of such a field because electric and magnetic fields should affect certain types of observed interactions, all presently observed experimental interactions are actually attributable to the functional properties of the Ismer as defined, but are not recognized as such because the substance and presence of the actual EM energy field I have defined as an all pervading, massless, non-elastic, not having a static energy level and not universally at rest, Ismer, is not being looked for. I suggest that when pursued with the correct properties in the experimental model, the Ismer energy field will be discovered, and argue all you want, all its functional properties I have suggested will be confirmed. As I originally stated, as defined in my theory the Ismer is not measurable because it can have no propagation velocity of its own and no instrument has been invented that can directly measure the energy level of a field that is stationary relative to the sensing instrumentation. As suggested, the actual compositional configuration of the EM wave matrix in the Ismer field is virtually infinitely complex and yet to be modeled, but the fact is the radiated/propagated EM energy at all light frequencies is still there and as a function of EM wave interference that energy interacts creating a vector summed field as resultant of the superposition of all input EM energy while retaining fully incorpoated electric and magnetic components of that energy. So let us get back on track. In my next post I will begin a descriptive analysis of the electromagnetic mechanics of gravitational potential as enabled through the functional properties of the Ismer as defined. I will then go on to suggest the design of an experimental test platform for confirmation.

None of this is true. Please give me a chance to put together an appropriate reply. Number 1. The quantized ISMER energy field is not detectable with instruments that detect propagated EM energy, because the ISMER field as defined has no propagation velocity of its own, but as you pointed out in a previous post, (Quote) "experiments have already been done which would indicate the presence of such a field." So as a field, it has been seen. Number 2. Maxwell's equations are a set of four partial differential equations that relate the electric and magnetic fields to their sources, charge density and current density. As a function of EM wave interference the quantized ISMER field is resultant of the algebraic and vectoral summation of electromagnetic waves which are comprised of electric and magnetic fields, and will therefore follow Maxwell's equations. Number 3. As relating to Beer's law I have pointed out that moving out within the proximity boundary of prime source radiators the total energy level of the ISMER will decrease as a function of the 1/r^2 law which is what determines it's decreasing propagation impedence. Number 4. As being all pervading, I specifically stated that its the quantized ISMER field that's all pervasive, not the contributing propagated EM energy, and that's because the ISMER field is the wave interference summation of EM energy at every point in the total universal dimension, both external and internal to all material bodies.

What have I said that contradicts known electromagnetic field behavior? I know the principle of wave interference is correct. Please let me know and I will do more research. Thank you.

Again, I fully agree. I did not mean to imply that a thousand word “legislative” document was what was needed. There may be more accurate jargon to compose my argument, but it does need to be mathematically defined and I not having a master’s degree in mathematics am not capable of that. This is why, even though I do understand the structure of models, I have not personally composed a definitive stand alone model, relying on the existing models I suggest are applicable. With appropriate models, I suggest a medium for the propagation of light has been discovered in the form of what has been described by those investigating quantum mechanics as a quantized EM field, that I have labeled an ISMER energy field, which is all pervading, massless, non-elastic, not universally at rest and not having a static energy level; and they didn’t know it because they weren’t even looking for it since they’ve all but dismissed even the existence of such a substance due to Einstein’s claim that an aether wasn’t necessary if you dismiss the necessity for absolute time in order to construct a model in his theory of special relativity without the incorrectly hypothesized infinitely elastic, static energy level and universally at rest aether, as a frame of reference. As I said earlier, I don’t believe there is any need to start from scratch to compose a model because current models can be incorporated to form an experimental model if properly assembled. No one has suggested tying the applicable models together as I have by incorporating a revised set of properties for the aether/ISMER as I have suggested. I suggest that when that is done it will all fit. With my patience in pursuing this train of speculative thought, and appreciation for your learned replies from a position of mathematical expertise, I am inviting you to join me in developing a calculable model. I will be more than thankful for your cooperation and you can share any recognition with me, because this will eventually be discovered to essentially be all I am suggesting, even though perhaps not perfectly worded at this time, and even more. I do not say that in a self aggrandizing or boastful manner in any way or to limit recognition, because there are many others too numerous to mention who are also eligible for recognition, all the way from Scottish theoretical physicist and mathematician James Clerk Maxwell to Dutch physicists Hendrik B. G. Casimir and Dirk Polder, and many others even before and after them. Whatever your response, thank you. Either way I will still go on to submit my analytical hypothesis on how the functional properties of the quantized ISMER field are what actually determine the mechanics of gravitational potential with a suggested design for an experimental test platform for theory verification.

Please read my remark again. All I was saying was that I was agreeing with you, because I had not claimed that this was limited to the visible spectrum either, and from the way you worded your comment I thought you were indicating that I had. You left the “as outlined above and further facilitated by an “over distance” redshift” tag off of that quote. One must review the “as outlined above” analytical terminology to understand that my suggestion is that the increasing light velocity is facilitated by the exponential decreasing of the ISMER propagation impedance due to a loss of energy within the quantized ISMER field as light traverses outward within the proximity boundary, and not just the loss of raw radiated energy. And you omitted my later remark "my suggestion is that the ISMER field does not directly depend on the proximity of source radiators, but is the product of all radiated EM energy from all sources, no matter what the proximity." I fully agree. Evidently the way I referred to the composition of the ISMER I wasn’t clear. The SMER field is not emitted radiation directly; it’s the result of emitted radiation from all sources converging at every point in the entire universal dimension that is algebraically and vectorally summated as a function of EM interference to form a quantized field. So the ISMER is that resultant field and it doesn’t depend on emitted radiation from any single source in the raw emitted state. And it’s that field that’s all pervading, because it’s not just emitted radiation from external sources directly, but the photon propagation within the mass as exited that comprises the ISMER field internal to the mass. And yes, the ISMER field will have an elevated energy level in close proximity to a prime source radiator because of the input from that source, but only as a function of the algebraic and vectoral summation of that energy with all other converging radiated energy. So again, it’s not just radiated energy from any particular body. To summarize this reply, this is why some legislative documents and some scientific papers require many pages with thousands of words to hopefully prevent any ambiguity for all who read to correctly ascertain. There are so many subtopics involved with this comprehensive hypothesis, it’s very difficult to make sure that every detail is perfectly stated with no ambiguity. So with that in mind, another way of analytically defining the substance and resultant energy level of the all pervading quantized ISMER field would be to say that as a function of wave interference, all contributing source radiation comprising the Ismer, both internal and external to all source radiators, will interweave and reflect within itself within any particular region of the universal domain to form the composite structure and average energy level of the ISMER throughout that domain, having no radiated energy of its own. From a quantum hydrodynamics superfluidity analysis, the quantized all pervading field is analogous to a fluidal sea and all bodies are as energy radiating sponges with the quantized fluid of the ISMER engulfing and saturating all the sponges.

I really appreciate your replies because with my limited experience, my analytical terminology is not always the most up to date, and by your remarks I am directed to the appropriate research material for review. I did not suggest that the ISMER field depends on the proximity to radiators, or that radiation is all-pervasive, or that the speed of light is affected by emitted radiation, and I did not anywhere say that the variation in EM energy density between day and night was limited to the visible portion of the spectrum. None of those remarks were indicative of what I actually said, so as indicated by those remarks, there must be a breakdown in communication. In reality there is no variance in our respective remarks, so let’s start over. What you said, in the way you said it, is fundamentally true, but what you said is not what I had suggested. If we don’t get our message straight, a lot of viewers are going to be greatly disappointed. We were on a good track but all of a sudden everything I had previously suggested was turned around and most of what had been gained was lost. If all you wrote in your last reply was actually what I had previously suggested, you’re right, my hypothesis would be wrong, but none of that is true. First of all, I did not suggest that radiation is all-pervasive, but that the quantized ISMER field is all pervasive. Second, I did not suggest that the speed of light is affected by emitted radiation directly, but that the speed of light is determined by the propagation impedance of the quantized ISMER field as inversely proportional to its energy level. Third, my suggestion is that the ISMER field does not directly depend on the proximity of source radiators, but is the product of all radiated EM energy from all sources, no matter what the proximity. As for the 1/r^2 law, the energy level of the ISMER field is affected by the intensity of the radiation which I indicated when I specifically suggested that traversing outward from the source within the proximity boundary, the energy level and thereby the propagation impedance of the ISMER will be decreasing at a rate proportional to the inverse square function of the distance from the source. Of prime consideration at this juncture is; what are the contributing factors that determine the energy level of the quantized ISMER field, because that is what I suggest determines the speed of light? As for the variation of EM energy density between day and night, from what you say you seem to think that the visible portion from our Sun should be considered a prime factor in determining the energy level of the ISMER. At every point in the universal dimension, including within material bodies, I suggest that level is determined by the algebraic and vectoral summation of all intersecting wavefronts arriving at that point from all sources over the entire array of directional coordinates as a function of EM wave interference. In our frame of reference external to material bodies, the prime sources of radiation are the earth and the Sun. In close proximity to the earth the earth is primary. The total summated apparent and bolometric luminosity from all external universal sources including our Sun is virtually constant day or night, and since as suggested the ISMER is all pervading, the energy level of its quantized field remains constant in the entire earth domain, day or night and in the darkest cave or in broad daylight. To say it most succinctly, the energy level of the all pervading quantized ISMER field is totally independent of any single source radiator including our Sun.

Most drug deals involve a lot more than a baby sitting fee. And even if that was done often enough, authorities would have a just reason to call for taxes on wages.

With modern technology to safeguard privacy and protect against identity theft, there is no reason why we couldn’t put an end to illegal drug trafficking, whether it be international, interstate, or on school campuses. Why we haven’t seen this proposed before is beyond me. All we have to do is institute a worldwide cashless society by eliminating cash flow facilitated by paper bills or coin as the means for monetary transactions. Again, with modern technology it should be a snap! Secure servers are already available, and if all commerce was only facilitated by means of monetary transference through electronic personal debit or deposit transactions, there would be no way to exchange drugs for monetary gain without it being accessible by authorities or account administrators. You couldn’t “sell” a drug on school campuses for a cash gain! Any exchange of goods for monetary gain could only be transacted by means of making an entry on a secure electronic server of goods sold with an electronic transfer of purchasing funds. This would not only put an end to illegal drug trafficking, it would virtually put and end to all theft, whether stealing personal property, embezzlement, or robbery. There would be no reason to steal personal property, or anything else, because there could be no monetary gain. There would be no way to exchange what was stolen for monetary gain without making an entry that would be accessible by authorities. You could steal a few TV’s, but you can only have a few in your home, so what would be the gain? The same for purse snatching or pickpockets, there would be no cash to acquire!

When I speak of luminosity, I’m referring to the full spectrum of electromagnetic energy all bodies (all mass) in the universe, near or distant, radiate per unit of time; both apparent (visible light) and bolometric (total radiant energy). It is that energy which I suggest is being algebraically and vectorally summated through the function of EM wave interference, to comprise the quantized ISMER energy field. By quantum definition, both light energy and photon quantum are appropriately referenced. The visible light spectrum is a small fraction of the overall spectrum of radiant energy and by itself does not comprise the full dynamic of the ISMER. One of the prime properties of the ISMER is that it’s all pervading. No matter whether on the surface of the sun, in a dark cave, or within material bodies (masses), the composite structure of the ISMER energy field is there, formed of all interfering electromagnetic waves at every point in that domain. By this analogy, the ISMER energy level, and thereby its propagation impedance, is independent of and does not vary simply as a result of being in the domain of visible radiant light energy, that is only one source of the overall composite for the all pervading ISMER energy field in the Sun’s domain.

Yes, different masses would not necessarily have proportional effects, but the effects are still correlated. Maybe I missed making the point clear. My suggestion is not based on this relationship, it’s simply that all radiating bodies contribute to the total summated energy level of the quantized ISMER field, and that level determines its propagation impedance which determines an increase in the speed of light as it traverses from its source, and that is what affects the observed redshift. Merged post follows: Consecutive posts merged I apologize. I got ahead of myself by referring to the effect the quantized ISMER field would have on the gravitational potential. I added the reference remark in connection with how the speed of light, as determined by the propagation impedance of the ISMER, is what affects the redshift in light as it traverses outward from its source in lieu of it hypothetically being due to gravity. I had not yet submitted my analytical hypothesis on how the functional properties of the quantized ISMER field are what actually determine the gravitational potential in the first place. That is coming.

No disagreement. I'm saying the same thing, only in a different manner. Radiated energy and temperature are correlational and directly proportional, more radiated energy from one mass elevates the temperature of a receptor mass, more temperature of the receptor mass increases its radiated energy, and vice versa.

Thank you swansont for your reply. I respectfully acknowledge that my skills at quantifying are limited, but please know that it's not that I refuse to do so. I am not dismissing the relationship of luminosity, it's only that the quantum of any particular photon of specific frequency does not directly affect luminosity, luminosity is associated with the overall amount of electromagnetic energy a body radiates per unit of time, or the spatial density of radiated photons. This is where I am suggesting that mass is also proportional to the amount of electromagnetic energy a body radiates per unit of time which determines the level of energy in the quantized ISMER field in the sun's or the earth's domain, and it is the energy level of that field which determines the gravitational potential of the mass.

All I was indicating by that comment was that the quantum energy of any particular photon is proportional to its frequency as described by Planck’s constant, which is not directly associated with its luminosity. I had also specifically noted that there would still be a percentage of redshift attributable to galaxies moving in their respective rotational galactic trajectories, while at the same time suggesting that most of the observed redshift was resultant of my hypothesized over distance analogy in opposition to the hypothesized expanding universe theory. As for the gravitation redshift, I am suggesting that both the hypothesized gravitational redshift and even the strength of the gravitational field itself are attributable to the non-static energy level of the ISMER. How have they been able to observe light travel that is not local? If not actually observed it can only be assumed, and if you assume the velocity of light is unequivocally constant, the experimental result would naturally confirm. Merged post follows: Consecutive posts merged I have not said that there is any evidence of my speculation, the only evidence of what I’m suggesting will come as the result of investigative research based on a new model formulated with the functional properties of the ISMER energy field as I am suggesting, in lieu of the properties of the non-existent luminiferous aether as previously proposed. I have also been very open in my comments on my limited mathematical skills to assemble that model. I’m hoping to inspire some with masterful skills to work with me to consider formulating a model incorporating my suggestions as plausible, since they are totally consistent with all substantiated investigative research. If there is any seeming variance with said research, it’s only because I may have not worded my suggestion with total up to date terminology.

The redshift of a photon’s frequency is proportional to a loss of energy and is called the Planck relation or the Planck–Einstein equation: v = E/h where h is the Planck constant and v is the associated EM wave. This is the loss of energy I’m referring to which is not directly associated with the amount of electromagnetic energy a body radiates per unit of time, it only has to do with the requirement for more energy to drive a higher frequency wave. Merged post follows: Consecutive posts merged All measurements of light speed to date have been made in the same frame of reference which as I suggest, have been determined by the propagation impedance of the ISMER in the Earth’s near proximity boundary, so in those measurements there could be no evidence of change in light speed.

Thank you for your comment. In my last post, the only quote was at the very beginning - two lines. I believe I have been very consistent to start quotes with (Quote) at the opening line of the quote. I tried the quote button a couple of times and for some reason it didn't turn out right. I must be doing something wrong. I will try it again, in fact I'm doing that for this reply. (I just did the preview post and it worked this time. I'll try doing it the same way every time. Thank you again.) Merged post follows: Consecutive posts merged3. The propagation of light, Part C Since the measured redshift of the light spectrum reaching us from distant galaxies is a frequency slide where the whole light spectrum has been lowered, scientific investigation has only substantiated one means of producing the observed redshift and that is with the Doppler Effect as theorized in a rapidly expanding universe model. I acknowledge the Doppler Effect as being causative for the redshift of the light from those galaxies that have rapidly receding trajectories in their respective paths of galactic motion, but I suggest that most of the observed redshift is attributable to an increasing velocity of the propagation of light within the proximity boundary of source radiators as outlined above, and further facilitated by an “over distance” redshift postulated as follows. As light energy traverses the ISMER as outlined in the speed of light analogy it will also be subject to phase or velocity modulation in the following manner. As photons of light energy are input to the ISMER there will be an energy transfer from the photons that activates the ESWM of the ISMER, and thus driven, the standing wave node/antinode dyads impart phase shift energy to the photon wavefronts comparable to the way input microwave energy modulates the velocity of electrons in the electron beam of a klystron to phase modulate its driven output EM energy. (The standing wave node/antinode dyads of the Ismer equate to an infinite series of capacitive varactors which act as phasors.) The phase of the wavefronts is thereby incrementally shifted through the continuing series of node/antinode dyad phasors in the ESWM of the ISMER, with each antinode absorbing input photon energy to retard the phase of each wavefront in an ongoing series of sequential quantum increments over their entire path of propagation. This equates to the proportionality constant between the energy of a photon and the frequency of its associated electromagnetic wave as defined by the Planck constant. Each propagated wavefront is thereby expanded through the node/antinode capacitive varactors in the ESWM of the ISMER, which are driven by an absorbed portion of the input photon energy and a dissipated portion of ISMER energy. The photons are thereby further propagated with expanded wavefronts as lower frequency photons. The energy of the ISMER is thereby dissipated to both maintain photon quantum and to phase modulate the EM wavefronts traversing its domain similar to the way line amplifiers in lengthy coaxial cable runs overcome the inherent loss of the cable. The overall process is analogous to a complex form of phase modulation driven by the energy of source photons and the ISMER energy field. As outlined, each leading photon of propagated radiation will be observed as having a quantum increment of wavefront expansion, or redshift, as light traverses over distance through the quantized ISMER energy field. This is why the observed redshift would appear the same when viewed from any point in the universe, and not just from Earth alone. The Earth is not the center of the universe!

swansont (Shaken, not Stirred) Things do not tie in perfectly with what you have discussed. Dark matter, for example, does not interact electromagnetically (essentially, that's why it's "dark"). It can't be the result of an electromagnetic phenomenon like the zero-point field. Thank you. Please let me address this more fully in another post. For now, the particles formed as suggested, in their periodic virtual particle state, would not give evidence of interaction with electromagnetic radiation. Only those which appear in precisely the right covalent form to bond with other quarks or leptons to form an actual neutron, proton or electron, which are probably what constitute baryonic dark matter, would interact electromagnetically. Once virtual particles become observable, they are no longer virtual but real, and I suggest they are what comprise baryonic dark matter. Only a small portion would fall in this classification, the remainder would be what constitutes "dark matter." To continue posting my suggested functional properties of the Ismer/ Casimir effect energy field, one more note of clarification. In further review, I suggest the quantized EM field that gives rise to the Casimir effect force measurement is the same field that I define as an Ismer energy field with functional properties I have suggested, but not yet predicted in current models. So for now to make further discussion pithy, I will continue to refer to that quantized field as an ISMER. 1. The propagation of light, Part A (edited on June 2, 2010) In my analysis of the composition of the ISMER as a result of all wave interference interactions, I have surmised certain manners in which the input of radiated photon quanta to the universal ISMER energy field from source radiators would generate interaction force waveforms as a result of their interaction with the ESWM of the ISMER energy composite. In further research it may be found that my descriptive synopsis does not include totally accurate analysis of all yet to be discovered effects, but the basic conceptual suggestions will more than likely be found to be true. As defined, the composition of the universal ISMER energy field is a direct product of the “light” being propagated from all the light sources in the universe. At every point in the universe, including within material bodies, all the photon quanta arriving from every source over an entire array of directional coordinates, contribute to the composition and energy level of the ISMER at that point! If there was no dissipation of that energy, the summated energy level of the ISMER quantized field giving rise to the Casimir effect force measurement, would rapidly rise to an infinite level! I propose that the propagation of light energy is the result of photon energy exchange within the ISMER. Once photons are emitted into the ISMER, they act to drive the SW node/antinode dyads of the ISMER which produces wavefronts in its ESWM that expand spherically from the point of photon input as determined by the function of EM wave interference, directionally coincident with the inertial trajectory of the input photons. The resultant expanding wavefronts interact with the universal series of SW node/antinode dyads in the ISMER in a continuing sequential cycle; producing derivative photons that are independent of any further input photons. This accounts for the continued propagation of light being independent of its source, with dissipation of quantized field energy as required to drive the continuing interaction. Just how this process functions precisely will require further research, but the basic concept as suggested is primary. Of prime effect in the way input photons interact with the ESWM of the ISMER, I further propose that as photons are input to the ISMER, the velocity of propagation is determined by the rate at which the infinite spherical matrix of standing wave node/antinode dyads which comprise the ESWM of the ISMER can change polarity or rotate, and that rate is inversely proportional to the energy level of the ISMER. The inverse function of polarity rotation is attributable to the fact that as the energy level of the standing wave node/antinode matrix increases, the time required for a polarity rotation will increase due to an increased pendulum effect associated with waveforms of greater amplitude. In other words, as determined by its energy level the ISMER has a specific resistance or “propagation impedance” for light energy traversing its domain, which determines the velocity of propagation. This function is so extensive I will continue with Part B coming. Merged post follows: Consecutive posts mergedAn added note of clarification on the dark matter isssue: Quarks combine to form composite particles called hadrons, the most stable of which are protons and neutrons, the components of atomic nuclei. Due to a phenomenon known as color confinement, quarks are never observed in isolation through electromagnetic interaction; they can only be found within hadrons. Only those found when combined to form hadrons are observed to experience all four fundamental interactions, also known as fundamental forces (electromagnetism, gravitation, strong interaction, and weak interaction). Since they cannot be observed in isolation, there is no way to determine what percentage of those formed as a function of the ISMER as I suggested, go undetected and are never observed. I further suggest it is that percentage of never observed quarks that comprise dark matter. Since leptons are subject to electromagnetic interaction, that percentage of particles formed as I suggested are also not a part of the dark matter, only the undetected quarks, and in that state those are not true quarks, perhaps only virtual particles. Merged post follows: Consecutive posts merged 2. The propagation of light, Part B To further examine the propagation impedance of the ISMER as outlined in part A, the total input EM energy from all sources is causative to both the energy level and the propagation impedance of the ISMER, and the velocity of propagated light is determined by, and inversely proportional to, the propagation impedance of the ISMER, i.e., any change in the ISMER energy level will directly affect the velocity of light in an inverse function. Outward from close proximity of source bodies such as suns or planets, to a “proximity boundary,” the energy level of the ESWM in the ISMER will be elevated, as primarily sourced by that body and the speed of light will be proportionately lower. Beyond the proximity boundary of a source radiator, any further loss of ISMER energy will be abated by additional energy constantly arriving from all external universal sources, which will be vectorally summated with the source radiator energy to form the total synthesis and energy level of the ISMER. Therefore, outside the proximity boundary of source radiators, the propagation impedance of the ISMER will be proportionately lower and thus the speed of light will be higher, but both will remain relatively constant for that region of space. In close proximity to its prime source with an exponential rise in the energy level of the Ismer, there will be an increased propagation impedance of the Ismer to photon quanta traversing its domain which sharply reduces the propagation velocity of light in close proximity to its source. Traversing outward from the source within the proximity boundary, the energy level and thereby the propagation impedance of the Ismer will be decreasing at a rate proportional to the inverse square function of the distance from the source, which will result in a rapid increasing of the velocity of propagated EM energy as it traverses outward from its source. As we consider the resultant increase in the velocity of propagated EM energy, it may appear that something is being gained from nothing. It is known that photons are emitted as discreet quanta of radiant energy, and each photon has a specific quantum of energy. As they encounter the higher impedance Ismer in close proximity to their source, their velocity will be impeded as outlined above. However, as they traverse outward from their source, since they still each have the same quantum of energy, their input to the lower amplitude ESWM of the Ismer will produce faster polarity transitions. Therefore, the propagation velocity of their incited EM energy wavefronts will increase. Since there is a specific time of separation for the wave crests of propagated light related to any specific atomic frequency, as the velocity of light increases in its path of propagation outward from its source, the separation of those wave crests would expand (each leading wave crest will expand faster than the one following), thus a redshift in the frequency as observed from a distance. Thus, as light is propagated outward within the proximity boundary of its source, the increasing velocity of the light will cause a quantitative degree of observed redshift. Therefore, the observed light frequencies are lowered more rapidly as light traverses outward from a source within the proximity boundary, and the observed redshift will be maximized. This is in direct correlation with the observed phenomenon where the velocity of light appears to depend on the gravitational potential of the field in which it is being measured, which is known as the gravitational redshift or Einstein shift. I suggest that gravity itself is not the causative factor, but the higher energy level of the Ismer determines both the reduction in the velocity of light and the increased gravitational potential in close proximity to a radiating body. (This analysis will be of prime consideration later in our abstract on the electromagnetic mechanics of gravitation.) This analysis is also postulated as an alternative explanation for the “bending” of light as it passes close to the sun, which was measurably observed during a total solar eclipse to mathematically validate Einstein’s general theory of relativity and further substantiate his contention of no need for a “universal aether” medium for the propagation of light energy. The energy level of the Ismer within the proximity boundary of the sun will be exponentially higher due to the extreme magnitude of photonic energy in close proximity to the sun. Moving out from the sun, the rapidly decreasing propagation impedance of the Ismer will cause the velocity of light traversing near the sun to be slower while that further out will be faster, causing prismatic lensing of any light traversing within its proximity boundary. This phenomenon of the prismatic lensing of light as it traverses different Ismer energy levels through various intergalactic regions of space is suggested as what facilitates an observed curvature of space. I think I can conclude this function in Part C.

That's the propblem. No one believes the Word of God has any merit. What a loss. It is truth and there can be no greater scientific discovery. Every part of what I said is consistent with geological discovery. There is no substantiated evidence to the contrary. Can you tell me one part that has substantiated evidence to the contrary? And if so, what is that evidence? Merged post follows: Consecutive posts merged (Sunsphere) The shifting tectonic plates do form a ring of fire.

The earth is still shrinking just like it always has as it’s cooled, and was at the time of the great Noahic flood when it rained for forty days and forty nights for the waters to rise to a height of 15 cubits or 27 feet, and cover all the high hills. What this reveals is that before the flood, the earth’s crust was relatively very smooth. There was dry ground and “seas”, but that doesn’t mean they appeared anything like they do today. There was no Atlantic or Pacific Ocean, no Mt. McKinley, and no Alps. With the falling deluge of water, which is a very efficient cooling agent, the earth’s crust would cool very rapidly. The very weight of the water, 23 million tons per square mile, would also place an extreme girthing force on the global integrity. Suddenly, the earth’s crust and mantle would begin to shrivel and fracture with globe shattering earthquakes. The breaking mantle would cause the release of the abundance of ground waters. The earth’s mantle would rupture in a rolling series of cataclysmic volcanic upheavals. A whole new world would begin to take shape. The newly forged topography would be contoured with extensive highlands and vast “ocean” beds. Newly shaped continents would be formed from overlapping fractured mantle materials with towering mountains pushing up on massive volcanic bubbles under layers of broken mantle materials. Over a period of forty days while it rained, and another 200 days before it all settled into the newly forged oceans and underground aquifers, instead of an earth whose crust was so smooth that it only took 27 feet of water to cover it all, we had an earth with deep sea chasms fissured in the crust of vast ocean floors, and continents with mountain ranges like the Rockies, a Mt. Everest, and fissures like the Grand Canyon! It’s happening again, not with a flood this time, but with a cooling shrinking earth forcing the layered tectonic plates to slide over one another and fracture as the earth continues to crunch. It’s only going to get worse with more cataclysmic seismic activity in these closing days of time.

Thank you. You are right. I have a lot to learn about how I write my thoughts. I agree, I cannot and do not want to redefine the Casimir effect force; I only want to expand its definition by suggesting that the measured findings of the predicted zero-point energy of a quantized field are evidence of the quantized electromagnetic field that I have defined as an ISMER energy field with functional properties not yet predicted in the Casimir model. I only want to enhance, not redefine. Is that allowed? If there’s anything I want to redefine, it’s the aether. As originally hypothesized, the supposed aether was all pervading, massless, infinitely elastic, and universally at rest with a static energy level. Even though it was suggested as a medium for the propagation of light, I do not find that it had any other suggested functionality. Maybe I shouldn’t even say redefine it, because I suggest that by that definition it doesn’t exist. What I am suggesting as existent is what I have named an ISMER composed of the substance of a quantized electromagnetic field as formed by wave interference of all interlacing photon energy at every point in space that is all pervading, massless, non-elastic, not universally at rest, and not having a static energy level. I suggest it is this that is being measured in the Casimir effect zero-point energy force experiment. Merged post follows: Consecutive posts mergedI can accept that what I may need to do in light of recent evidence is to rename what I have coined an Ismer energy field by replacing that name with what it is as predicted in the Casimir model and successfully measured, the Casimir effect energy field. I sort of like Ismer, but I would actually be willing to rename it with any name acceptable in the scientific research community. And as I agreed, I cannot and do not want to redefine the Casimir effect/Casimir-Polder force, that would be self defeating; I only hope that what I’m suggesting as functional properties of the Ismer energy field, that I am willing to rename with an acceptable name or acronym, can be considered to expand its definition. I suggest that with expanded definition the functional properties of the Ismer/Casimir effect energy field are: 1. for the propagation of light, 2. for the quantum mechanics of relativity, and 3. for the quantum mechanics of gravity. As we continue on this thread I will submit suggested descriptive analysis as to how each of these functions is facilitated. I accept that my descriptive analysis of the suggested functional properties of the Ismer/Casimir effect energy field may need to be redefined to include accurate current reference to all substantiated evidence. So to begin: 1. I suggest that as I have defined it, the Ismer/Casimir effect energy field may be found to account for the remaining 74% of the dark energy necessary to reconcile the total mass-energy geometry of the universe. 2. I suggest that dark matter is a product of the functional quantum mechanics of the Ismer/Casimir effect energy field, wherein EM interaction force waveforms reflect within themselves to form wave interference pattern vortices and specific standing wave node/antinode segments, the polarity and pattern of which constitutes the "spin" and “flavor” of various “atomic particles,” i.e., leptons and quarks, which are the building blocks of protons, neutrons, and electrons, having wave-particle dualities. Merged post follows: Consecutive posts mergedAn added note. I really want to thank swansont (Shaken, not Stirred) for steering me in the right direction. In all the years I’ve been theorizing on what I have analytically described as an Ismer as resultant of the wave interference summation of all photon energy arriving at every point in space, I never took the time to review all the physics research findings of quantum mechanics. I knew many of the principles involved, but I never reviewed them in depth. Because of how swansont reminded me of the zero-point field findings and the Casimir effect, I finally in my old age started reviewing what’s been going on the field of quantum mechanics. I am virtually amazed how everything I read ties in perfectly with what I am suggesting in this thread. I am also amazed how what I’m suggesting has never been directly theorized. Sad to say, I think it has to do with how Einstein threw out the aether as was then hypothesized in order to make a calculable model for his theory of special relativity by successfully substituting an alternate frame of reference. As a result, all the research in quantum field theories has never yet led to an acceptance of how when tied together, those findings give evidence to, not an aether as originally hypothesized, but the substance of an Ismer with functional properties as I am suggesting. I may not be stating everything with total inclusion of all substantiated findings, but the basic concept is consistent with all discoveries.

swansont (Shaken, not Stirred) (QUOTE) If the field has a resultant, it can be measured. It should show up as an effect in experiments sensitive to electric or magnetic fields. i.e., experiments have already been done which would indicate the presence of such a field. I have mentioned cavity QED experiments, such as the Casimir force measurements, and you have not addressed this in any detail. (QUOTE) The problem isn't that this general line of inquiry hasn't been pursued. It's that it has been, and nothing has been found not already predicted by our models. Which do not include an aether. So either your ismer is simply the renaming of existing phenomena, in which we discard it because the other models were here first, or you are proposing something new which we cannot see despite doing experiments that should have exposed it. Lacking a model with which one might make specific predictions is a fatal flaw. You can't tell anyone where, specifically to look, and what, specifically, to look for. Thank you for your comments. I had not really addressed the Casimir effect as described by quantum field theory, which states that all of the various fundamental fields must be quantized at each and every point in space, and was not aware of the instrumentation designed to measure the physical forces arising from a quantized field such as the electromagnetic field, which has been done. As defined, the Ismer energy field is a quantized field, so my statement that the Ismer energy field cannot be detected with present day sensors is wrong. If I had kept up on advancements at all I would have known about that instrumentation and would have realized that what the Casimir force measurements indicate is actually the presence of my suggested Ismer energy field! I am ecstatic! That measurement proves my speculation is correct. And no, I am not just simply renaming the existing Casimir phenomena, I am redefining it, and I am not renaming the Casimir effect, I am renaming the aether. So in that regard I am actually proposing something new because this has not yet been proposed. I suggest the aether, renamed Ismer to more accurately denote its compositional substance has been discovered, and I have identified it as such! No models have been proposed to include an aether because as originally proposed with the functional properties ascribed to it at that time, no calculable model can be found. So no experiments have yet been performed for the purpose of discovering any functional properties the zero-point energy of a quantized field may have, which I propose would reveal all I have suggested. That’s why I proposed in an earlier post that if a new path of investigation would be pursued with my newly defined set of suggested properties, a calculable model could be formulated for the elusive aether to be discovered. Upon review of all that’s been discovered in quantum physics with the cavity QED experiments, I believe the greatest discovery has been missed. The origin of the quantized EM field being measured in the Casimir effect experiments and its composition and any functional properties it may have, have not been explicitly defined. My suggested analysis of the Ismer energy field does just that. In fact as we go on with the effects of my suggested functional properties of the Ismer energy field, even all these discoveries will fit.

With observed and measurable propagated EM energy arriving at every point in the universe, including within material bodies, at all frequencies, phases, amplitudes, and from all directional coordinates, the resultant wave interference vector sum of that energy will establish a composite field of EM energy having no velocity relative to its contributive energy sources and its power level will be undetectable by any sensing instrumentation having no velocity relative to the field. This is by definition what the Ismer energy field is, and why it cannot be detected with present day sensors, but due to the EM energy arriving at every point from all contributive sources, the field will have a resultant vector sum level of energy with specific inherent functional properties, present at any observed point. Not in any way to be impolite, may I suggest? Since this concept of an aether having properties as suggested has never been pursued due to the dismissal of any need for an aether, no model has ever been attempted, but if you can compose a totally calculable model that incorporates all these parameters in precise relationship to one another as visualized, please let me know.

(Wikipedia) Standing waves are generated by source EM energy wavefronts as a result of interference between two waves traveling in opposite directions or it can occur because the medium is moving in the opposite direction to the wave. For waves of equal amplitude traveling in opposing directions, there is on average no net propagation of energy. (Sunsphere) Which is one of the properties of the ISMER energy field as defined. In my years of work with radar in the U.S. Navy I was very familiar with this because it was one of our prime concerns in the calibration and maintenance of the waveguide transmission system. I didn’t say the ISMER was not the zero-point field, what I tried to infer was that with further research into the concept I am proposing it may very well be found that there are some similarities of evidence that tie the two together in some manner with no inconsistency. Merged post follows: Consecutive posts mergedThe concept of an Ismer energy field as I have suggested in this thread with all it’s ramifications, upon which all my hypotheses are predicated, is the key that will unlock the door in physics research to form a TOE by unifying gravity with the three gauge interactions in the GUT. Again, as presented this concept is totally consistent with all experiments testing the phenomena of special relativity, general relativity, and relativistic quantum mechanics, including gravity. Even though this concept has been all but abandoned as a result of Einstein creating a model in his theory of special relativity, in which he replaced any symbols for an aether with properties as was then hypothesized with an alternate set of symbols for a frame of reference with no absolute time, I know there are those in the physics research community viewing this thread that will realize this is that key. This discovery will eventually be made whether it’s through this thread or not and it will be with this approach that the vast majority of unanswered questions in the field of physics research will finally be answered. But please let us press on as we post suggested hypotheses for the propagation of light, the mechanics of relativity and the mechanics of gravity as facilitated by an Ismer energy field as defined.

Thank you for your sense of humor. I mean that. I know I get a little long winded sometimes. I'll try being more pithy. Merged post follows: Consecutive posts mergedIn summary of the journey we’ve been on so far, perhaps with more words than were necessary, but hopefully without ambiguity. As I said in my last post though, I will try to be more succinct in future posts. I truly respect each viewer’s inquisitive scrutiny and I don’t want to waste your time. For whatever it’s worth, in final analysis I believe you’ll find the journey was worth while. 1. I’ve suggested a clear definition for the composition of the once hypothesized, but now all but abandoned luminiferous aether as the medium for the propagation of EM energy, as an EM wave interference “Infinite Spherical Matrix of Electromagnetic Radiation” residual “EM energy field,” that’s all pervading and massless with no propagational velocity of its own. 2. I’ve renamed the aether with the acronym ISMER (Infinite Spherical Matrix of Electromagnetic Radiation) to more accurately denote its real substance. 3. I’ve suggested a redefinition of the functional properties of the Ismer, as still being all pervading and massless, but being non-elastic due to its inherent standing wave (SW) configuration, and having a variable energy level but not being universally at rest due to the varying mass and motion of its EM energy source radiators. 4. I’ve proposed that if a new path of investigation would be pursued with this new set of suggested properties, a calculable model could be formulated for investigation into the discovery of the elusive aether, and it would turn out to be what I have suggested as an Ismer energy field. 5. I’ve suggested that as defined, the Ismer energy field may account for the remaining 74% of the dark energy necessary to reconcile the total mass-energy geometry of the universe. 6. I’ve suggested that dark matter is a product of the functional properties of the Ismer, wherein EM interaction force waveforms reflect within themselves to form wave interference pattern vortices and specific standing wave node/antinode segments, the polarity and pattern of which constitutes the "spin" and “flavor” of various “atomic particles,” i.e., leptons and quarks, which are the building blocks of protons, neutrons, and electrons, having wave-particle dualities. In my next post will be an analysis of how for the functional properties of the Ismer operate to facilitate the propagation of light, determine the speed of light, and redshift light over distance.

swansont (Shaken, not Stirred) (Quote) 1....that you have answered precisely none of them. All we have gotten is heaping helping of word salad. 2. How would one test for the presence of this ismer, when (as you have admitted), no experiments to date indicate that it is real? What do you mean when you say my proposal answers precisely none of the many unanswered questions? I did suggest answers for the definition of dark matter and dark energy, both of which are answered in that the ismer energy field is actually what comprises the substance of dark energy, and dark matter as being the product of the functional quantum mechanics of the ismer, neither one of which are answered by any other hypothesis. And answers to all the other questions are coming. And I did precisely outline the properties of the suggested ismer in my last post as being all pervading and massless but not “infinitely elastic,” not “at rest,” and not having a “static energy level” throughout the universe. I proposed that to suggest a new effort to test for the presence of the ismer using a correct set of properties in a calculable model; that being the reason no experiments to date have found it to be real. In an earlier post the ismer was defined as all pervading and massless, being non-elastic because of its SW configuration, having a variable energy level and not universally at rest because of the varying mass and motion of its prime source radiators. And I suggested that the energy level of the Ismer is not detectable using current instrumentation because it has no propagational velocity of is own. Did you read that post? I carefully suggested why those properties would more accurately define the aether/ismer. Please hang with me, sometimes enough words have to be used to hopefully prevent ambiguity. Thank you again. I respect your replies.

swansont (Shaken, not Stirred) (Quote) So you're essentially proposing a new name for something that is already a part of physics, and has a fairly complete mathematical description. As I said, “there is more than likely a very close tie between the zero-point field concept and what I’m suggesting, with no disparity.” According to the speculative research being conducted in quantum mechanics, there are a lot of similarities between what they are now conjecturing, including the zero-point field concept, and what I’m suggesting. The sad thing is, there is no acceptance of what I’m suggesting, which is not a new name for the zero-point field concept, but a new name for the all but abandoned luminiferous aether as an Ismer energy field, which as defined gives full clarity to the observations theorized as the zero-point field, with no disparity to any substantiated findings. The zero-point field does nothing to answer all the many remaining questions of any definitive means for the propagation of light, what actually controls the speed of light, why does light appear to bend in a gravitational field, is the universe actually expanding at an exponential rate the more distant the observation, and is gravity a force or does matter just follow a free fall geodesic inertial trajectory in a curved space-time continuum, and so many more. What I’m proposing is an analytical redefinition of the aether as an Ismer energy field that answers all the unanswered questions and ties it all together! A typical answer is what I suggested in my last post as the Ismer energy field actually being what comprises the dark energy needed to reconcile the total mass-energy geometry of the universe. At this point I also suggest that most of today’s research is directed with no allowance for or any calculable model for an aether for the propagation of light, which affects almost every investigative process. With no defined means for facilitating the propagation of light, all models have to search for an alternative mathematical path, because just how the propagation of photons is enabled is intrinsic. With acceptance of my suggestion on the composition and functionality of the Ismer energy field, vice just some dismissed hypothetical unknown medium, all today’s research efforts would be exponentially advanced. One more note on my definition; as originally hypothesized the elusive aether was assumed to be an all pervading, infinitely elastic, massless, and universally at rest with a static energy level, of no defined substance. With all those properties as being essential and unalterable, all early research efforts to define the aether were hindered and no conclusive evidence has ever been found. That is why in Einstein’s effort to develop a calculable model for his theory of special relativity he had to find an alternative mathematical path to explain why the aether could not be used as a frame of reference. Thus, no aether is needed if you dismiss the necessity for absolute time. This to my way of thinking is a resounding example of by having an absolute demand for a calculable model in research theory he had no other way out. (To put it bluntly but not in any way to demean Einstein’s profound intellect, he had to threw the baby out with the water.) Again, as a result of the resounding successes of the theories of special relativity and later the theory of general relativity, virtually all effort to discover the substance of the aether with a set of workable properties has been all but abandoned. In my analogy the Ismer is still all pervading and massless but is not “infinitely elastic,” is not “at rest,” and does not have a “static energy level” throughout the universe. I propose that if a new path of investigation would be pursued with this new set of suggested properties, a calculable model could be formulated for the elusive aether to be discovered, and it would turn out to be what I have suggested as an Ismer energy field. As another unanswered hypothesis in astronomy and cosmology, dark matter is inferred to exist from its gravitational effects on visible matter and background radiation, but is undetectable by emitted or scattered electromagnetic radiation. As important as dark matter is believed to be in the universe, direct evidence of its existence and a concrete understanding of its nature, has remained elusive. In summary of the many facets in our analytical analysis of the composition and functional properties of the Ismer energy field, it is herein further postulated that the ESWM of the Ismer is composed of EM interaction force waveforms that reflect within themselves to form wave interference pattern vortices and specific standing wave node/antinode segments. This would only occur on an indeterminable basis throughout the boundless expanse of the universe within the parameters of Heisenberg’s uncertainty principle with an average time of separation for each occurrence. The polarity and pattern of any particular EM wave vortex or standing wave segment constitutes the "spin" and “flavor” of various “atomic components or particles,” i.e., leptons and quarks, which are the building blocks of protons, neutrons, and electrons, having wave-particle dualities. These components are investigated in today’s research as elementary particles, and fundamental constituents of matter, with various intrinsic properties, including electric charge, color charge, spin, and mass. It is herein postulated that the atomic components thus created constitute the substance of dark matter. Since the vast majority of the dark matter in the universe is believed to be nonbaryonic, which means that it contains no atoms and does not interact with ordinary matter via electromagnetic forces, my suggestion may appear to be in variance. Please remember that many of the present day hypotheses are only in the process of being investigated and there are many that are still just that, beliefs, hypotheses, or speculations, just as this thread has been labeled. Even the theory of dark matter is only a belief, and even that only applies for a vast majority of dark matter. Again, investigation of dark matter has been restrained with no allowance for or any calculable model for an aether for the propagation of light, which affects almost every investigative process. In my premise, the functional properties of the Ismer energy field accounts for all the dark matter.