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Can you show us what you've tried so far?

Do you purposely try to make things difficult?

You didn't quote me there either. So I guess that also wasn't meant for me.

What did I take out of context?

When there is no evidence. There is evidence that "gender" is more complicated than the binary "either male or female".

Um, then why not come in perpendicular to one of the sides? You need to come up with a better fantasy.

I think withholding the Articles of Impeachment would be a smart strategy by Pelosi (I didn't even realize that was an option). It eliminates McConnell's strategy of using the Senate rules to dump dirt over the A of I and instead leaves McConnell's and Graham's disregard for their oath hanging in the wind for all to see. Here is the oath the Senators give: Here is what McConnell said: And Lindsey Graham:

You derided someone who is performing an important role and used a right-wing article to assist in her character assasination. You do this a lot. Unless you are referring to ALL DEMOCRATS, you are instead using some action (or just as often, your general take on something that happened) to criticize everyone in a group. It is no more appropriate when talking about Democrats than it is when you are talking about minorities, gays, the uneducated or the poor. Obama is not being impeached. He is not a witness in the impeachment, nor has he had much (if anything) to say about it. When discussing the impeachment if you find yourself mentioning Obama a lot, it is probably off topic. It is also a poor tactic for anyone to focus on "whataboutism" when defending a particular position. You make plenty of good points and imo have a lot to contribute. I just have a hard time discussing things with you when it feels like so many of your posts have a subtle insult built into them.

While your post was superficially related to the OP (you mentioned someone related Climate Science) your discussion quickly moved to politics and decision making at TIME magazine. While it is not uncommon to throw in an off topic comment, the culture around here (and the rules) strives to keep the discussion on topic.

Something related to the OP.

What does that mean? Do they still have it?

I consider myself a moderate in general, although heavily liberal on social issues. I'm fiscally conservative, as I said I own guns, and in the old days I voted Republican a lot more than Democrat. Nowadays I tend to vote straight ticket for the Democrats. This is not because I think Democrats are so great, but because I despise people who try to force others to live their lives a certain way. Basically I feel strongly enough about the rights of minorities that I'm willing to lose out on otherwise admirable politicians in the Republican party. My strong opposition to Trump has nothing to do with his position in the Republican party, but what I feel is the real harm he has done and continues to do to this country. I would not shed a tear if his lifelong consumption of fast food led to an early demise. I am as equally disgusted with the Republicans who support Trump through lies and obfuscation. I feel most politicians put their desire to keep their office above serving the public, Democrat and Republican, but imo the Republicans have taken the low road to new depths. I imagine if I was in Canada or Europe I would probably tend to vote conservative, but I don't really have a feel for whether or not the character of the individuals in one party tend to outshine those of another. So basically I'm a gun owning, straight ticket Democratic voter, who feels he is a moderate. NPR or Fox Do you hand the panhandler a dollar or do you walk past.

Are you suggesting he engaged in similar behavior as Trump?

My cat Linus taps me on the shoulder when she wants to go outside. Once she meowed at the back door to be let in, then walked directly to the front door to be let out. Guess she didn't feel like walking all the way around the house. Seems pretty obvious who's working for whom.

Give it a break, will you?

Perhaps if your questions came across neutral and specific rather than sounding like they are simply looking to criticize everyone who is to the left of you. You bemoan the fact that things aren't better, but continually widen the divide yourself. Take the chip off your shoulder, the bias out of your statements, and just talk.

I hate this right wing drivel. Facts over character assassination would be nice once in a while.

You'll be easy to find too. Your picture looks just like Clint Eastwood! I've actually got a number of long guns and handguns. I even have my concealed carry license although I think I've only carried my gun one time. But for me they are almost entirely for shooting targets. Which is what got me thinking about the association of guns with conservatives. Perhaps the conservatives (especially in the US) tend to draw attention to themselves wrt guns by being so outspoken about their gun rights. Yes, which drives home the fact that it is dangerous making assumptions about people based on their politics. Turns out I'm a gun nut and you're a socialist. Who knew? 😁

I'm not sure it's a matter of "interpretation" in the Senate. McConnell has already decided Trump would not be removed from office and is coordination with the defendant on how to proceed. From the perspective of most of the Senate Republicans the facts of the case seem to be irrelevant. They have no intention of kicking out Trump regardless of how the so called trial goes. If they even have a trial.

Many good points and explains why my view on the politics of gun ownership could be completely at odds with the views of another. I wonder if perhaps what attributes could be placed on the political spectrum are not actual policies (welfare, housing, taxes, etc.) but something more fundamental. For example, a belief in personal responsibility vs the greater good, people like me vs people not like me, evidence vs belief, hands off government vs heavy government involvement, etc. If a more fundamental set of attributes could be assigned then it could be easier to understand why a particular policy tends to be championed by one party over another.

In another thread someone implied that gun ownership was an indicator of "Right Wing" politics. While I recognize that more guns are probably owned by people on the Right than on the Left, I didn't really think that gun ownership was an attribute of a conservative political viewpoint, so much as an attribute of living a more rural lifestyle. That is, living in rural areas might make you more conservative AND more friendly to guns, but the friendliness to guns didn't come from being conservative, it came from being in a location where a gun can be a tool (hunting, varmint control, etc.) I would suspect conservatives who live in urban areas tend to not have guns, where liberals who enjoy a more rural setting (like me) would tend to embrace guns. I don't consider my gun ownership (or thoughts on public fiscal responsibility) indicators that I lean Right. I was hoping that in this thread we could not only talk about whether or not gun ownership is a conservative political attribute, but what attributes in general belong where on the political spectrum. Is being a strong Christian a political attribute of the right? Is being fiscally responsible an attribute of the right? If you are a civil rights advocate does that make you a Democrat, or are civil rights a strong issue for Republicans? Are some attributes common from one end of the spectrum to the other?

I did not call him "Right wing". Even in a room full of Socialists, someone will be more to the right than the others..

Just leave the goalposts where they are please. No need to add qualifying information AFTER I've responded to what you said. Yes, and rifle scopes are only support systems that provide aiming data so that the bullet can deliver a lethal strike. Is it really that hard just to concede a point?

I don't think anyone here is further to the Right than you are.

Ah, thanks. So you are saying that Trump committing bribery isn't a crime because he didn't think things through and therefore there was no intent. Do you suppose it works that way for other crimes? For example, when I was in college a roommate moved out of the house without paying his portion of his final month's rent, thus leaving me stuck with the bill. I had intended to go over to his new apartment and take some of his things and essentially hold them "hostage" until he paid what he owed. If I had done that and he called the police on me, could I have claimed I didn't think things through (meaning there was no 'intent' to commit the crime of burglary) and thus be found innocent?