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While I agree to a certain extent, like in most matters there is no absolute. People will make judgement calls based on their unique set of circumstances and in some cases it may be best to censor medical information.

So, every politician, everyone seeking a promotion, everyone in advertising/sales/marketing, every interrogator, every spy, every military commander planning battles...

In what way? The type of discussion? Our belief in such things? Using god's killings as a model for ourselves? Inquiring minds want to know! 😃

I used the wrong type of faucet for an outdoor installation that is drained for the winter. Because of the faucet I used some water remained behind the faucet and froze, splitting the pipe about 12 inches from the faucet and not close to any other joint.

It's your experiment. I thought that is what you were going to tell us! 😁 We know water freezes and that -60F is cold enough to do so. We also know that ice can split copper pipes (I can personally attest to that.) The question seems to be whether or not the amount of spray you have can freeze the amount of water you have in the pipe. Also included are what contaminants are in the water, if any air is in the pipe, and if the pipe is sealed.

I wasn't questioning that. Only that "space is factually, measurably curved". I was just trying to clarify what you meant.

That's the first time I heard that. How do you measure space? You mentioned measuring the earth, and I know you can measure how things behave in space, but how do you actually measure space itself?

What was the question?

I know. That's why I started the post by saying "I know this is a tangent..."

I know this is a tangent, but I think you are wrong. You are the product of a specific egg and sperm. The time you were born is the ONLY time you could have been born in history.

I'm trying to understand it myself so this may not be correct but the descriptions I've seen make it sound like this to me. When the moon orbits the earth it is because the 'force' of gravity is in the center of the orbit. Similar to how a ball connected to a string will swing around in a circle. With a satellite around a Lagrange point, it is more similar to the way a roulette ball stays in a circle around the center of a roulette wheel since the wall around the roulette wheel contains the ball. It doesn't take much force to keep a ball circling a roulette wheel; the wall does most of the work and you just just need to add small pulse of force occasionally. Keeping a satellite exactly at the Lagrange point is compared to keeping a ball balanced on top of your head; it constantly wants to drift one way or the other.

How fast will Webb be traveling when it reaches L2? How will Webb begin to achieve an orbit that is perpendicular to the orbit of the planets about the sun? Is its motion away from the sun essentially halted as it begins its orbiting maneuvers? Are orbits around Lagrange points necessary to maintain position? Meaning, is it possible for a satellite like Webb to just 'sit' in the position around which it will orbit, instead of orbiting?

Perhaps I misunderstood. You are saying killing your father is impossible because time travel as it was described it is impossible? Not simply because killing your father would create some weird paradox?

Yup. You were right!

One way to prove the existence of galaxies is by looking, observing behavior, testing, reasoning.

Why? If we make the giant leap that time travel is possible, what keeps me from pulling the trigger?

I've never understood why paradoxes are an impediment to time travel. Not that I think time travel is possible, but I don't know why the possibility of me killing my father before I am born somehow interferes with whatever the mechanics of time travel would be. Seems just as likely that I would kill my father and something unexpected would happen somewhere. Surely the universe doesn't care that we don't like paradoxes.

Why? Because you are some anonymous stranger on the internet making unsupported claims? Thanks, but I'm holding out for something better.

I'm shocked, shocked I tell you, that not all news sites in the world do things the same way. It's almost like they act independently.

Thanks for being specific.

Huh. I didn't know that was an absolute fact. Good to know. So what specifically are you suggesting?

I think the starting point is always the science and the medical situation. Our goal should then be to achieve as much of that as possible. That being said, there will always be competing goals, and public health recommendations will tend to impact those other goals. One cannot simply ignore the other goals. Back in my early days of IT we were tasked with improving the efficiency of our mainframe response times. Our first suggestion, not actually made to anyone outside our group, was to kick off all the users from the system thus ensuring no wait times for data retrieval. My point being that all public health recommendations will interfere to some extent with other worthy goals. Do you feel we've reached that tipping point? That the situation is so dire that stronger measures, such as 'vaccine or forced confinement' are needed?

Exactly. And in the case of the current pandemic my view is that we have not reached that point. In the US at least, if we cannot even get the states to quit fighting things like mask mandates then trying to mandate vaccines will be like tilting at windmills. We are so far from that point that even discussing it on a national level will likely lead to chaos. For places where 'the public good' is more of a priority the conversation could at least take place, but if people are 'mostly' getting vaccinated and following mask and distance mandates I don't see where the government can claim to have reached that tipping point.

Or not. People make the decision every day to do things that are not good for their health. Are you again purposely misunderstanding to make a point? Body autonomy does NOT "require the cooperation of others".

Then lock up COVID, not its victims. Of course not. And no one is saying it should be at any cost.