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Natural Selection, Unnatural Selection, and the Nature of Consciousness
zapatos replied to infamouse's topic in Speculations
But you are not citing evidence. You are stating why you THINK they don't have feelings based on what makes sense to YOU. Evidence would be something along the lines of a scientific study whose goal was to examine how and when emotions are formed, perhaps looking at sensory deprivation, brain injury, birth defects, in utero studies, etc. These studies might provide clues to whether or not you can have emotions without any senses. Without this sort of evidence, perhaps the following statement: could more accurately be stated as: "if you were born into a world of darkness, without any of your senses, your ability to feel anything (in the physical or emotional sense) or conceptualize anything, would almost certainly be hindered". First of all, having no physical senses but having a normal brain probably shouldn't be referred to as "never having perceived a single element of reality". A functioning brain is experiencing reality, even if it is receiving no external input from the senses. An underdeveloped brain (one lacking outside sensory input) is still a functioning brain, with sections involved in sensory input, reasoning, logic, etc. Brain activity will still be going on. Neurons firing, etc. Second, there may very well be a logical argument to support the idea that you can experience emotions sans external sensory input since conception, but I don't know if there is or not. And hence why I would not make that claim without first researching whether or not such evidence exists. -
Natural Selection, Unnatural Selection, and the Nature of Consciousness
zapatos replied to infamouse's topic in Speculations
Yep, no problem. And when that happens here the poor communications will be pointed out. Quit taking it so personally. It happens that way for EVERY ONE here. Not just you. And to improve future communications, people are expected to make every effort to reduce their imprecision, contradictions and poor wording. Do you have any evidence to back up this claim? Look, you appear to be in a new environment here. Like all new places there is a culture, expectations, rules both written and unwritten. If you take the time to understand how things are done you will likely find this to be a very rewarding place. If you try to go against the flow from the beginning you are more likely to get frustrated and bail out, or worse, be asked to leave. From a personal standpoint I spent the first six months here hiding in the background as I found the level of discourse much more rigorous than I was used to and was nervous to join in. I hope you can be happy here as we always need good new members. -
Natural Selection, Unnatural Selection, and the Nature of Consciousness
zapatos replied to infamouse's topic in Speculations
Do you have any evidence to back up this claim? You still have a brain. It does not require senses to function. Are depression and happiness learned emotions that cannot occur without senses? -
Natural Selection, Unnatural Selection, and the Nature of Consciousness
zapatos replied to infamouse's topic in Speculations
You do an excellent job of deflecting blame. Rather than accept a criticism of your incorrect claim (twice) you finally admit your communications were not accurate. You then blames the listener for not understanding your flawed communications, while claiming you are the victim and are being attacked (like you seem to do in other threads you participate in here.) Try taking a little responsibility. It will go a long way and reduce your defensiveness and unnecessary tension. This is a science site and thus flaws in logic are called out. If you are unwilling to accept that this place will be very difficult for you. -
Natural Selection, Unnatural Selection, and the Nature of Consciousness
zapatos replied to infamouse's topic in Speculations
No, you didn't imply it. You claimed it. Right here... That is simply not true and thus your claim is incorrect. -
Length contraction in a block universe must be an illusion
zapatos replied to 34student's topic in Relativity
It is only an "illusion" if you consider something else to be "real". Which particular angle do you consider to be "real"? -
You may have that also, but certainly your view of religion is limited.
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That's a rather limited view of religion. Telling you what to believe, who to believe, to ignore the evidence in front of your eyes, how to act, when to eat meat, what type of cloth you can put on your body, and what you can and cannot do with your wanker, is much more than "a way of thinking".
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Natural Selection, Unnatural Selection, and the Nature of Consciousness
zapatos replied to infamouse's topic in Speculations
Just saying it doesn't make it true. You see, feel, hear and smell things all day long that do not generate feelings or thought. -
I need a shower.
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Requirement for two "nows" to grasp the idea of Simultaneity
zapatos replied to tar's topic in Relativity
I know it's been a while but I suspect you are going to get the same responses today as you've gotten in the past. -
Bait. Switch.
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Hmm. Maybe 'up' is the direction of a person's head when standing, and 'down' is in the direction of the feet. This covers both people on earth and those in space.
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Right. As I said, give them the answer they want. That can either be honest appraisal, support, or many different things at different times. I don't just refuse an honest answer when I have no useful insight. It is important to go beyond the words (if that is possible) when someone asks you a question. A stranger typically gets an honest answer because I have nothing to go on other than the words they used. With my wife it is a completely different story. She communicates differently from me, and does so for different reasons. My job as a Martian who cares for the person I am talking to, is to understand the subtleties of what my cute little Venusian is asking.
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No, the trick is to give them the answer they want to hear. My wife has on occasion made a choice that was questionable, but when she asked about it, what she wanted to hear was that I supported her. Choosing clothes for instance is not a life and death decision. If she likes something then tell her you like it too. That is a no brainer.
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Some people are into that sort of thing. Or so Phi says...
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Yeah, I always rinse and shake, at least twice. But now I'm questioning what I was taught as my parents told me to do all kinds of interesting things, like putting mercurochrome on cuts and butter on burns.
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You mean this one was self-explanatory on what the rinsing accomplished? Or this one? Or perhaps you meant this one? Yes, they were all very self explanatory on what that rinsing has accomplished. Thanks so much for your help.
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So... What exactly has all this rinsing accomplished?
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Is rinsing sufficient to clean out whatever it is you wish to clean out? Just wondering if rinsing will do anything more than clean out dirt and crumbs, while leaving bacteria and viruses.
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Hey you, yes you! Do you have Bad Science Forum social credit?
zapatos replied to Ferrummageticium's topic in The Lounge
You may not be around that long. I've seen a lot of people start out here like you are and most are kicked out long before 3 months. If you want to last that long you should consider curtailing your current posting style now. -
Eggsactly!
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That's quite a leap in logic to make based on "white/yolk".