rigney

My point of view? I'm only scared of what I find to be alarming. Friend, fear mongering, coersion and lying from either side will never get it done. If you actually believe your ideas are the best, go into politics and fix our problems. Don't equivocate or try beating on me over the head to slake a demeaning and demanding nature.

I understand what I believe is to be your meaning, how to express my interpretation is what I'm not sure of. Our (two party system), which it has become; is very well organized and funded. That's because wealth is massive and pretty much equally distributed in both camps. But bias and propaganda are the basic issues motivating our problems. Since a rich man or a poor man has only one vote, it's how these votes are manipulated that really matter. As I have stated before, we are sheeple and duped quite easily. So, being dupes we look for the best offer from either party. I guess the Civil Rights movement was the only time in this country sheeple really turned to attack their masters. It was a just and humane cause that should have been settled in 1865, yet has taken another 100 years to even get it close to being over and done. As the marches went on in the south, it wasn't monetary gain these people were looking for, only equal rights. Today it's not rights people are seeking, but hand outs that they have become accustomed to at the expense of government through taxation. "Lemmings" jump off the nearest cliff to end their suffering? How can we sheeple end our dilemma without bringing our nation to an end? A beautiful rendition of "Kum-ba-yah" won't do it either. And if you can believe all of the BS about Paul Ryan telling nothing but lies from those on this forum and as related by all of the liberal media, then you really are a dupe.

And what is the problem with producing ID to vote? I have to produce my AEC card or a photographic ID to be able to vote. But with no ID, you only have 13 cases of fraud? Somebody is dreaming. No, seriously, that figure must be pure BS. I quote from the AEC report for the 1996 Federal Election in Oz. As in how many "Please explain" letters were sent by the AEC as a result of people being marked off on the Electoral Roll as voting multiple times. So we get 986 people admitting to electoral fraud in one election and you get 13 people in 10 years with 10 times the population? Absolute bulldust. There must be holes in your voter registration systems that you could drive the Missouri through. The progress America has made in science and industry over the past 250 years, pales in comparison to the regressive nature our political system has managed to take. If you look at the internet, there is enough on voter fraud to keep you busy reading for at least a full month. Here is one slightly biased to the right, so to get a full understand you will need to go through more than just this one.http://www.nypost.com/p/news/opinion/opedcolumnists/dead_voters_dying_democracy_mZiteqXrMHygrJhVFYOTxL

Another potshot that uses a "fact", and yet that "fact" has no support. In short, I think you're being dishonest here and just made that up. For starters, I've never lived in a place where membership in a party is up to anyone else — it's not a matter of allowing you in. Registering isn't — I could have registered as a republican in several states. I could have registered as a democrat. It was up to me. According to this all you need to do is go to their website and make a donation. So I don't believe you about being "allowed" to join. I'd also like some evidence that there are millions of illiterates in the democratic party, as opposed to only a few in the republican. Failing that, a retraction of the claim. One or the other, if you have an ounce of integrity. Hopefully you're right. I'm sure that among the many who voted democratic in 2008, most will have jumped ship by now.

Only by saying that I was unaware of what they did to be unconstitutional. And me! I am just one of a few illiterates they allow in the republican party, as compared to millions of my counterparts in the democratic camp.

I've known and liked Dennis throughout his entire political career and still do. So enough said about that. And while the guy in that clip doesn't exactly speak for me, he comes close to telling it as I see it happening. Got the following from an acquaintence this morning who works at a government employment agency. Tell me what you think of it?

You're right in saying that all nuts don't get their weapons illegally, though I expect most of them do. But neither am I trying to run or hide from the truth friend. Fact is I agree with practically everything those Sooners have accomplished. My problem is that I have such a hard time expressing my thoughts without offending some one from your camp. And since I keep on getting it wrong, I'll let the guy in this link speak for me. Please don't take offense as he explains it since he finally has a better handle on the existing situation than I ever could. Thank you!

Don't be an ass friend, although you may need a remedial reading program. I didn't make the statement and am not from Oklahoma. It was the wording of Oklahomans making the statement that our federal Government has made bold steps to take away their guns. Oklahoma, a week ago, passed a law confirming people in the state have the right to bear arms and transport them in their vehicles. I'm sure that was a setback for the criminals. The Liberals didn't like it -- But...... Guess what........... Oklahoma did it anyway. The way I'm beginning to read this forum is that most, if not all of you are left wing leaning liberals, or am I just becoming parinoid?

Unfortunately the way you stated it is usually the case. Some get a slap, others a sentence, a few get stiff sentences, but very few get the full sentence. My neighborhood speaks for itself.http://www.cleveland.com/crime/

Just what isn't the case friend? No way would I try Bull S-ing you, since you're much too smart for me. Come to Cleveland, Oh. and get your world wide view of the sad situation here, if you have the stomach for it. No mamby pamby stuff at all. Personally I don't like it, but crooks and felons seem to relish in it. Maybe you could help us? By the way, your:Hmm, that's odd. All legal. No shady dealers overcharging them? is your statement, not mine. I specifically said 10 times the price.

It's much more fun knowing that it aggravates you.

A normal person cannot disagree with the statement, although it is a bit late in coming. And access to what weapons are you speaking? Unscrupulous or mentally deranged people wanting to purchase firearms don't give a rats ass what you, I, the police or government think about it, and don't go to legitimate dealers anyway, but to some shady character charging ten times the price. And should these nuts kill indiscriminately as has happened in the past several shootings, there should be a speedy trial and the bastard(s) hanged if the faint of heart can stand it. All illegal fire arms should be confiscated and destroyed when ever and where ever they are letigametly found and the perp fined and perhaps even jailed. Assult weapons such as AK 47s are by design sem-automatic, much as a 38, 44,45 etc, and are not machine guns. But again, you can't keep them out of the hands of nuts or perps if they want to buy one. As many have stated time and time again, guns do not kill people, only psychopaths and wackos kill people. So, remember this when government wants to confiscate our guns. Fact is though, should all guns be taken away from sane and legitimate owners, only perps, nuts and the police will have them. If that should happen, good luck.

Point out anything you wish, but I see the liberal left as wanting to change everything for which our constitution stands. Hope and Change, what a joke.

I am alluding to nothing, merely conveying what I read that is coming from Oklahoma.

This is Oklahoma's stand on the issues, not mine; although i agree with them. i don't want to subvert our constitution in any way although I see what I believe to be subversion from the liberal left.

I certainly hate to upset the liberal mind, but maybe we should turn this whole stinking mess over to Oklahomans since they seem to be the only ones capable of doing anything about our problems. OKLAHOMA!!!! 'Be who you are and say what you feel, because those that matter - don't mind... and those that mind - don't matter.' Oklahoma is the only state that Obama did not win even one county in the last election... While everyone is focusing on Arizona's new law, look what Oklahoma has been doing!!!! An update from Oklahoma: Oklahoma law passed, 37 to 9 an amendment to place the Ten Commandments on the front entrance to the state capitol. The feds in D.C., along with the ACLU, said it would be a mistake. Hey this is a conservative state, based on Christian values...! HB 1330 Guess what.......... Oklahoma did it anyway. Oklahoma recently passed a law in the state to incarcerate all illegal immigrants, and ship them back to where they came from unless they want to get a green card and become an American citizen. They all scattered. HB 1804. This was against the advice of the Federal Government, and the ACLU, they said it would be a mistake. Guess what.......... Oklahoma did it anyway. Recently we passed a law to include DNA samples from any and all illegal's to the Oklahoma database, for criminal investigative purposes. Pelosi said it was unconstitutional SB 1102 Guess what......... Oklahoma did it anyway. Several weeks ago, we passed a law, declaring Oklahoma as a Sovereign state, not under the Federal Government directives. Joining Texas, Montana and Utah as the only states to do so. More states are likely to follow: Louisiana, Alabama, Georgia, the Carolina's, Tennessee, Kentucky, Missouri, Arkansas, West Virginia, Mississippi and Florida. Save your confederate money, it appears the South is about to rise up once again. HJR 1003 The federal Government has made bold steps to take away our guns. Oklahoma, a week ago, passed a law confirming people in this state have the right to bear arms and transport them in their vehicles. I'm sure that was a setback for the criminals The Liberals didn't like it -- But...... Guess what........... Oklahoma did it anyway. Just this month, the state has voted and passed a law that ALL driver's license exams will be printed in English, and only English, and no other language. They have been called racist for doing this, but the fact is that ALL of the road signs are in English only. If you want to drive in Oklahoma, you must read and write English. It's really simple. By the way, the Liberals didn't like any of this. But guess what...who cares... Oklahoma is doing it anyway.

This guy surely must have calculated the weight of dragons and dinasaurs coming with the military families yet to arrive on Guam? Pitiful, but I'm sure Biden must have had this "Fellow" as a confidant and speech writer during his visit to Danville, Virginia.

Assuming you think this post is humorous, why would you even think it's appropriate in this thread? Can you not see how needlessly offensive it is? A linguist eh? Portugese? I was thinking more like the south side of Juarez. I can see that you are not in a jovial mood Senor. Do you even have a fun loving side? Or ees it that yu are jus too serrus and saw no humor in many of the posts?

No, No, No! Bring the animals to town for entertainment. Ole! “El Toro, El Jefe” http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=2h-WhhqFjv4 It has been said that Mexico has no Olympic Team because, everyone that can run, jump, swim or pole vault is already in the USA. But, here’s proof that not all Mexicans are in America. And definitely, “some are not there at all”. Is this the Mexican version of an Olympic Tryout or a Government sponsored Socialized Medical Plan for vasectomies, prostrate exams, brain surgery, etc.? Or maybe just a good reason to eat beef? But you can bet your Tufu, there are absolutely no vegan diets in Mexico.

As far as I know Black Panthers have killed no one. Right now both them and the American Nazi party are names that only sound bad. But will either of these tribes one day put such ideas into action? I certainly hope not!

The thought should be in the back of all our minds at all times. Not to drive us into paranoia, but to think that, Hitler did it Stalin did it, Pol Pot did it, and dictators from that time forward has done it. In Syria it is happening as we speak. Such evils can be a mere glance or only an instant from incarceration to extermination.

You really think so? People bent on murder seldom advertise their intentions. I don't recall the Columbine murderers, the theater killer or that political rally nutcase who shot Gabby Giffords in the head make any threats before launching those attacks. So, let's just be leery and not sweat guys dressed in mock nazi uniforms wearing swastika arm bands or a bunch of radical blacks in mock uniforms making nightmarish threats. But by all means, let's be extremely aware and overly cautious of a young ex-GI making a dumb assed remark on Facebook.

Throughout the first half of my life I met several outstanding men who made a very good living by farming, growing grain that they turned into a a fine mash, thus producing a swell alcoholic beverage. They bought autos, homes, frequented the better stores and sent their children to school. Their only problem was that government was always trying to put these guys in jail, not help them. I wonder why? By the way, they never got a single dime of subsidy or food stamps from our government. However they did use the roads on which they had already been taxed to the hilt.

A 26 year old combat veteran is taken into custody by local, state and federal authorities for psychiatric evaluation after voicing some pretty wild accusations on Facebook. While no arrest was made, he Raub; is going to be detained for a month while the testing is conducted. Why, when we have cooks running all over the place threatening mayhem here in this nation? Just the other day I watched as three or four Black Panthers in uniform, were interviewed on a TV news cast. They were very adamate in conveying their thoughts that all whites should be killed. Are any of them locked away somewhere for a months evaluation? No! But aren't we on one hell of a slippery slope when our government can simply pick and choose its straw monsters? http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/08/20/outcry-after-military-veteran-detained-for-anti-government-facebook-posts/

Can you blame dems for wanting him as an opponent? As much as I despised Biden's scheme about chaining people up again as a calculated gaffe against republicans, this ass Akin is a "for real bat shit nut case" and scary. Hell! It's cooks like him that may get me to start believing in the tooth fairy and "Puff" all over again. But no Moon!, It won't convince me into becoming a democrat. http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-women-politics-20120821,0,3923114.story