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Have to tell you INow, if I had the ability to mince words as you do, I'd be in politics. You simply missed your calling.

Don't know Moon and I don't particularally give a shit who believes in what. So, just don't wrap all religious people in the same bolt of cloth as you do this Minnesotan and I promise not to do the same with all democrats, just Biden. I really do believe Joe still believes in the tooth fairy????

Give me a quote from any reputable republican that can top any of the gaffs Biden has made and I will readily agree with Moonman. Biden's is sad commentary at best, dragons or no dragons. A mistake is something like Romney made when he presented Paul Ryan as the next president of the United States instead of VP, but then immediately clarified his blunder. http://politicalhumor.about.com/od/joebiden/a/bidenisms.htm

I honestly don't know what to tell you. When a man, Biden, standing only a heartbeat from our presidency; pulls off gaff after gaff and the only Democrat taking him seriously is the former governor of Virginia and a black man at that, little else can be said.If thise guy from Minnesota gets into office and is as nutty as democrats make him out to be, then it's a blot on a district in Minnesota, "not on the United States."

Ah! There you go again Moon, being bitter. Since I don't want you to go into cardiac arrest, just chill out a bit. Anyway, what do you mean by; go pound sand?

How come it's only Republicans whom you think are bat shit crazy? Your ranting and ravings will change nothing Moon. When the elections have been concluded in November we will know what these next four years will hold for us. So just chill out for a couple months. You certainly aren't making friends or influencing people with you present rhetoric.

But I'm not in Minnesota Moon! If you have a ward or district that would vote for such a wacko, I'd suggest you be watching them rather closely. Biden on the other hand belongs to the nation as of now. Do we want him and his kiddy type of philosopy another four years? Actually, what has he done in this term other than make a few gaffs? Poor Obama. I hope he can find a descent job come December.

These are your very words Moon, not mine. Quote:So you think that Biden's remark about chains is batshit crazy but belief in dragons is not? Or do you think they are equally crazy? I said nothing about being bat shit crazy, only bat shit silly and inane. Chances are that that right wing nutter will never win any election, but Mr. Biden is a sitting vice president. So tell me, who has the most to lose, the right wing nutter or Obama? And yes, you have found me out again, as things stand right now I'm a straight ticket voting Rrepublican.

I don't believe anyone is smart enough to weigh and fully assess each of these variables you mention. That to include Dems, Reps and Inds. Yet each of them will argue they have that intellect and will do a great job. Then with some snake oil and little skull duggary, eventually they find their way into congress or some other powerful office. Well, we both know this is hog wash; but what can be done about it?

How many states only allow term limits for congressmen? Presidents or Governors are single individuals trying to control a situation, where as a house or senate controlled by a party can feel free to do as they please. I can understand why Reid and Pelosi pushed through the Obamacare bill. Simply because they could. Republicans are just as guilty of such actions when they control either the house/senate or both. As I said, we didn't get into this morass because of one party or anothers actions, these playground antics have been going on for at least a 150 years, if not longer. Question is, how can it be corrected? The crazies from both parties in Washington are destroying the very fabric this nation was founded on and it's a damned shame and outright travesty. Most of them are only looking out for their own asses. This short video pretty much says it all.http://www.620wtmj.com/blogs/charliesykes/64495507.html?viewAll=1&blog=y&action=editcomment&cid=30676138&page=1

Getting back to a single term for politicians would be a miracle in itself. People in those jobs will not give up this perk without a fight. But how do you fight an established practice that has been going progressivly further into decay for hundreds of years? This is something that will have to be figuered out by people much smarter than me. The thing is, such a reconstructive process must begin some place and somehow. But how? As long as politicians keep us ripping at each others throats even in a two party system, this will never happen.

I would like to add a final thought to this mess we are in. Yes! Many greedy folks out there make piles of money and care less about those who gets hurt in the process. These are the thousands of owners who do business under the table or over the back fence out of necessity or the greed that keeps them in business. But the majority of powerful and rich business owners like Buffett and Gates are wiser, more humble and much more compassionate than we can ever imagine. These businesses are scrupulously audited and they pay their taxes accordingly. The fact they pay as they do is laid out by the government, not the owners. And this has been the policy for decades. Face it, who; other than an absolute 'idiot" would cut the ass from a goose laying golden eggs just to find out from where they are coming? So, when where and how did this sinful tax inequality begin? When? Presumably as long as there have been people in powerful positions who demand tribute for services rendered. But today, the where and how always comes from government. And this; from all levels of government. Politicians aren’t crooked by nature, but there are enough dishonest ones scheming to make that extra buck while in office, it give a bad name to all of them. The tax disaster we face today is not an arrogant, irrational Obama, a Bush, Clinton or any other president, but the culmination of political misdeeds of a few underhanded politicians, bringing this tax structure to loggerheads with the common people. These misdeeds are the failure of those we chose to protect us from such evils, Our Congress! Obama may have had good intentions, but his approach was wrong. You simply can't quick clean a shiny porcelain pot with sand paper and expect it to stay shiny. A president is only one person trying to make the best of a bad situation. But until people in this nation begins to understand that they alone are the ones responsible that must regain control of these self-serving asses in our congress, we will continue this hellatious spin. A "ONE TERM" policy for politicians is the only answer. Tenure breeds contempt from those on top for those who oppose their structured reasoning, and this along with a large dose of self-aggrandizement for those either in academia or politics who do so. At some point, both of these powerful entities can, and usually do become very destructive unless severely monitored. Good people awaiting and wanting to serve our nation in politics will hopefully do so eventually. And when their term in office has ended, they will not mind waiting another four years to serve again. If you really want to spread the wealth, this is the way to do it.

Nothing as far as I know. It's just that his bat shit rhetorical sayings are silly and inane. That crack in Danville, Va. the other day about puttin' you'll back in chains to a predominantly black audience, was about as dumb and stupid as it gets. Then to have several astute democrats say, Oh, he really didn't mean it that way; is more BS. If you don't want that right wing conservative nut case as you describe him in congress, then it's best you don't let Biden run against him. I'll bet "Puff" the magic one told you?

Well, the Dems have Biden, don't they?

A typical for this joker. But then I wondered, has he ever had any real fun? So, thought I'd throw him some real Biden humor.

A simple solution is to allow politicians only one consecutive term in office. And that a period not to exceed more than a four year term. If a person is so dedicated to serving the people, they won't mind waiting another four years until they can run again. It's hard to steal something if you don't have time to find out where it's hidden.

As I've said before Moon, only on one occassions have I ever voted a straight ticket, and that was for Kennedy. But with Kucinich out of the running, I may just vote a straight ticket this time.

Sorry, but I can't accomodate your wish for me to vote Dem. right now. But we had better find a way of controlling these self centered congressional free loading asses. One battle in war and most men have had enough. Bu one battle in politics only breeds a thirst for more encounters. Ain't nobody getting hurt but the people, rich or poor; so let er' fly and (we may) eventually get it solved at someones expense.

Dog gone it Tman, sometimes you ring clear as a bell. But heck, there has always been fads, adds and gimmicks around since I can remember. I even had a couple hand held clicker buttons and a soda vinegar powered boat made in Japan, prior to 1941. But you're right, people get sucker punched over and over again and haven't a clue as to what's happening. It is a funny, puzzling and exasperating world, isn't it? Yes, there are some greedy folks out there who make piles of money and care less about those who gets hurt in the process. But a majority of powerful and rich people like Buffett and Gates are much wiser, more humble and caring. Face it, who; other than an absolute 'idiot" would cut the ass from a golden goose to see where the golden eggs are coming from? So, when and where did this sinful tax inequality begin? The when? Presumably as long as there have been people in power. But the where always seems to come from "GOVERNMENT", and at all levels. This disaster we are facing at the moment is not due to the scheming of an Obama, Bush, Clinton or any other president, but the failure of those we have elected to protect us from such evils. Our Congress! Obama may have had good intentions, but the wrong approach. You simply can't quickly clean a shiny porcelain pot with sand paper and expect it to stay shiny. A president is a single person trying to make the best of a bad situation. Unless this nations people understand that they must regain control of these self-serving asses in our congress, we will continue this hellatious spin. "ONE TERM" is the only way. Tenure has a way of breeding contempt and self-aggrandizement in both academia and politics. At some point, either of these powerful entities can be destructive.

Well shucks, I know how you don't have any love for Christians and was wondering how you could have coerced yourself into voting for him? Plus, I was agreeing with you. I'd even bet that there are some gays out there right now who pretend to be Christian just to be accepted by a larger audience? Hey! We were talking politics.

For some reason I thought you lived in S. Carolina? I can't give an honest yea or nay to this conundrum Moon. People, married or not, gay or not, have legal avenues to pursue their endeavours. But at the moment Christian fundamentalist have a voting bloc and control. I didn't like it that Obama got into office, but I had to accept him and he's a Christian.

Your bitterness is showing Moontanman. Unless you live on an isolated island somewhere, there is no way to get through a day without 90% of the people you meet being christian or some other religion. Granted, many of them are creationist. But for them to not believe in science borders on the rediculous. Most of my people are religious but when they get sick, the first thing they want is a DOCTOR; not a SHAWMAN. C'mon get rational.

Alas! Poor Byden "oops" Yorick, I knew him well Horatio, long before he discovered playground insults and the invictive antics of politics that has brought him to this bitter and unglorious end. A jesters calling without a frivolus world to perform in, what a waste.

You're right and simply have to call a spade a spade of which I am one. I just don't know enough to do anything about it. Each of us know that we are being used by both political parties and don't have a grasp on either. Sheeple! I believe is the word used to define us. We definitly need a champion for the good of America, but unless a way is found to contain politicians to a single term in office, this ka-ka will go on forever and the champ will always wind up being a chump. Man or woman, when people get drunk on power, it's one hell of a tug trying to get that power back from them. Right now I'm looking at Republicans as the lesser of two evils

You're not lost, but perhaps might think that I am. I probably should have expressed him as a gas bag expelling a warm breeze. I've listened to Biden make speeches for years and all very tactfully given. Only problem is, they have always been total BS. Heck. I thought he might be prepping for his doctorate again. He does have one, doesn't he?