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first, you can see transverse waves on surface of a fluid medium. if universe is full of fluid medium, how can you see transverse waves? universe must have a surface. second , MM experiment did not compare transverse and longitudinal waves. They compared two light waves on transverse and longitudinal arms. I said "light waves which moves in longitudinal direction and transverse direction" I never said "longitudinal waves and transverse waves". you must read carefully. before discuss with me about MM, you must learn what they did exactly. http://scienceworld.wolfram.com/physics/Michelson-MorleyExperiment.html in the link above, it says, In 1895, Lorentz concluded that the "null" result obtained by Michelson and Morley was caused by a effect of contraction made by the ether on their apparatus and introduced the length contraction equation where L is the contracted length, is the rest length, v is the velocity of the frame of reference, and c is the speed of light. Briefly, MM experiment is insufficient to prove aether. not only I say this. Einstein and Lorentz said this also. in my theory, universe is full of superfluid medium. But you tried to disprove it by MM experiment.

in MM experiment there was only one light source. in MM experiment, "white light, through a half-silvered mirror that was used to split it into two beams travelling at right angles to one another. After leaving the splitter, the beams travelled out to the ends of long arms where they were reflected back into the middle by small mirrors. They then recombined on the far side of the splitter in an eyepiece, producing a pattern of constructive and destructive interference whose transverse displacement would depend on the relative time it takes light to transit the longitudinal vs. the transverse arms. MM thought, If the Earth is traveling through an aether medium, a beam reflecting back and forth parallel to the flow of aether would take longer than a beam reflecting perpendicular to the aether because the time gained from traveling downwind is less than that lost traveling upwind." in the MM experiment, two light waves that are on transverse and longitudinal arms were in a comoving frame. Because of this, pressure and density is the same for both two light waves. Moving direction of waves has no effect on pressure and density of fluid medium. in the acoustic wave equation , value of "c" will be the same for both two light waves. So, speed of light waves will be the same in a comoving frame. I said "Because pressure / density is alwasy constant." you said "pressure & density are not always constant." we are talking two different things. I talk about pressuse and density proportion I did not discover this equation. it is known equation. no need to discuss it. suppose that you throwed a stone in a river. river is a moving fluid medium. what will happen? speed of waves will be different for different direction? if MM is right, wave shape must be an ellipse. if wave shape is circular, MM can not prove aether. river is a comoving frame for waves. if MM were right, waves that move on longitudinal direction must be slower than the waves that move on transverse direction. So wave shape must be an ellipse. have you ever seen an ellipse wave in your life?

the right acoustic wave equation . do you know what is the meaning of "c" in equation? "c" means "constant". why they put "c" to the equation not other letter like "x","y" or "a" ? Because pressure / density is alwasy constant. Now we are talking about MM experiment and superfluid medium. in MM experiment they tried to compare speed of 2 light waves. these 2 light waves were in the same conditions. so pressure and density will be the same for each light waves. so, their speed will be constant and they will have the same speed. so, can you see any difference between speed of 2 light waves? Answer: NO

no. you are wrong. speed of a wave in fluid mediums are constant always. this is very common knowledge. I did not discover this. for example, speed of wave in air 340 m/s. this is constant for air. you, me, everything in universe are made of this medium. so we can not say, we can not feel it. just MM used wrong method for proving. briefly, sub atomic particles are vortex. the vortexes build atomic nucleus and electron shell.

I meant , I explained how this is possible in my article. I read and try to understand your other comments now. I will give an answer when I understand. light is a longitudinal wave which moves in one dimension in superfluid medium. The acoustic wave equation is used for longitudinal wave which moves in one dimension. and speed of wave in always constant in a medium. and it is independent from experiment environment. I mean, if wave source moves, the speed of wave does not change. it is always the same. in MM experiment they tried to find difference between speed of two light waves. but if the speed of wave is not changing, you can not see any difference between two light waves. they are always the same and constant. in MM experiment they thought "If the Earth is traveling through an aether medium, a beam reflecting back and forth parallel to the flow of aether would take longer than a beam reflecting perpendicular to the aether because the time gained from traveling downwind is less than that lost traveling upwind." but if light is a wave in a medium, speed of wave will be independent from this. it will be constant always.

First of all, we must understand this; in my theory, all subatomic particles and light made of this superfluid medium. in the first page of my article, I compared speed of light and acoustic wave equation. as known, even if source of wave is moving, speed of wave never change. it is independent from speed of wave source. and now, do you understand why Michelson–Morley experiment will not work and speed of light will not change? so by this experiment you can not prove existance of aether. in aether theory, it does not say, light and subatomic particles are made of aether. but in my theory I say this. all subatomic particles and light made of this superfluid medium. and explain how this is possible.

before ask questions, I advise you to read my answers. imatfaal asked the same queastion and I answered this. and watch this video also. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RIg1Vh7uPyw

a ) water is liquid. and under high press and low temp., helium becomes a liquid also. so water and liquid are the same? water has viscosity but helium is super fluid. they have different features. aether supposed has viscosity but I talk about super fluid medium. b,c ) is the speed of propagation. B is bulk modulus. The adiabatic bulk modulus for a fluid is defined as we get d ) http://www.fizikportali.com/forum/emc2-t4838.0.html%3bmsg16318%3btopicseen#msg16318 I wrote reply to Bignose's comments. He says "Another is that fluids require a medium".. but in my superfluid theory, fluid is medium. and all subatomic particles made from this medium. Besides, Einstein was thinking, fields could intensify at a certain point, through a kind of knotting. and knot can behave like a particle. Briefly, the particles can be obtained from fields. This knots are called as soliton. I supposed the fields of Einstein as super fluid medium. And knotted field as vortex. I got very interesting results. I noticed that fluid mediums has analogy with gravitational, electrical and magnetic fields, molecular orbital theory, black holes .. etc.

a ) this is not aether. this is superfluid. they are very different. b,c ) this is acoustic wave equation. look here, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acoustic_wave_equation d ) yes, I am sure. I see, you did not read all article.

Hi everybody, I have been doing research on "analogy of fluid mediums and sub-atomic particles" for a long time. In this context, I examined the behavior of super fluid mediums and vortex, and I compared the behavior of subatomic particles. As a result of my research, I saw an immense analogy between them. Besides, Einstein was thinking, fields could intensify at a certain point, through a kind of knotting. and knot can behave like a particle. Briefly, the particles can be obtained from fields. This knots are called as soliton. I supposed the fields of Einstein as super fluid medium. And knotted field as vortex. I got very interesting results. I noticed that fluid mediums has analogy with gravitational, electrical and magnetic fields, molecular orbital theory, black holes .. etc. The research results are collected in an article and video. I want to share my research with you and get your opinions, comments. I would be very pleased, if you write your comments. youtube video : www.youtube.com/watch?v=eawL3WxzkUk PDF Article : www.superfluiduniverse.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/superfluiduniverse.pdf

Hello Everybody, Firstly, I want to talk about my story. A few years ago, I read an article of Marmanis. It was about "Analogy between the Electromagnetic and Hydrodynamic Equations: Application to Turbulence". Before that, I already knew, Einstein was thinking that the matter is a kind of soliton that made by kuantum field. I thought, there must be a relation between them. I imagined kuantum field as super fluid medium and soliton as vortex. I made a search based on this idea. And I have a theory that is universe is a superfluid medium. I tried to explain, gravity, electric field, the energy formula of Einstein, E=mc2, electron orbitals, molecular orbital theory, neutron stars, black holes..etc in my theory. I made it in video format. It is very easy to understand. I hope, you like it. Thank you very much again for your interest. This is the link : Also, in this links, you can find many articles about analogy between the electromagnetic and hydrodynamic Equations like Marmanis. http://www.purple.dti.ne.jp/kambe/FDR-IOP-42(2010).pdf http://www.sbfisica.org.br/bjp/files/v33_346.pdf https://www.google.com.tr/url?sa=t&r...eoMTydFnwd7pYw http://hal.inria.fr/docs/00/08/18/94...vector-hal.pdfsuper fluidMy Webpage

Hello Mr Norman, Thanks for interest. Would you share "Feynman Lectures III, 21-13" with me. If possible I want to to see it. Thanks

Hello Friends, I'm studying on fluid dynamics and quantum physics for about two years. I realized that there are really interesting similarities between fluids and subatomic particles' behaviours. I have written an article on this subject. I would like to you read my article and take your comment about it. You can read my article from this adress : http://super-fluid-universe.8m.com