John Cuthber

Possibly, apart from the fact that bicarbonate of soda is quite good as a fire extinguisher. Why is anyone here having problems with the idea that super-glue on cotton wool acts this way (at least sometimes)?

Interesting idea. I had a look at the wiki page for the bacterium mentioned and found this "P. luminescens also produces a proteic toxin through the expression of a single gene called makes caterpillars floppy (mcf)." The name struck me as amusing.

The batteries are in one box (which does chemistry): the inverter is in another box, and does physics.

"Valves by nature give off Radiation as a matter of course," Not really. Some, particularly when run at very high voltages, give off X rays and some have traces of radioactive materials in them- for example uranium glass. But on the whole, valves don't give off radiation any more than you and I do.

If someone repeatedly calls me, and others murderers (albeit tacitly) then they are lying or delusional. When it's clear that they have looked into the effects of vitamin B12 deficiency, but only quote the bits that suit them, that's also plainly dishonest. On the basis of the evidence supplied in this thread, it is clear that he tells lies. Calling such an individual a liar is not an insult, it is a statement of fact.

"There is no event horizon unless there's a black hole. You can't have half a black hole. There isn't one and then there is one." Right on all three counts. And when one forms in the middle of a start it grows (not very rapidly) until it has drawn essentially the whole star in. At the point where half of the star's mass is in the black hole it ticks the box for this "At what point is it half star/half black hole?" And it still isn't relevant. There are two ways to go from 4 to 3. One is suddenly and the other is gradually. If it happens suddenly there is no point at which it is 3.5 but, If it happens gradually then there is a point at which it is 3.5 (and on either side of that point it's 3.4 and 3.6). The OP states that the change is not sudden.

Is that Nemo hiding in the bottom left corner? Do I win a prize for finding him?

That got a mention back in post 14, but if you blinked you would miss it.

At the point where half of the mass is inside the event horizon. (The middle will collapse first, because it's densest.) Who cares? You keep trying to talk about fast events, but the OP is talking about one which is at least slow enough to let people post stuff about it.

Its usually called fading. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fading

"...any more than a lit fuse leads to half-exploded dynamite." Actually, that's what usually happens. The velocity of detonation for dynamite is about 7 KM/S (I'm using the value for straight NG so it's not a brilliant estimate). About 7 metres in a millisecond or 7 centimetres in 10 microseconds A typical stick of dynamite is something like 15 cm long so, about 10 microseconds after the detonator fires, you have got half exploded dynamite. My point remains, if the change from 4 to 3 is gradual then there is a point where it's 3.5. If the change is instant then there is no half way house. But the OP clearly says that it "is collapsing from 4 to only 3" "Is collapsing" means that the collapse from 4 to 3 is an event which takes a finite time and we are currently at a point during that interval. "will collapse or "collapsed" would be different.

The notable thing about airline passengers and crew is that they are a long way up. Because of this the earth's atmosphere is underneath them and so it cannot shelter them from the effects of the sun (including the solar wind). However , unless you are suggesting that the dinosaurs were often at 10000 meters altitude it's not relevant to the extinction. That other possibility would be if the air suddenly disappeared. That would leave the animals at the mercy of the solar wind, but the lack of oxygen would kill them before they had time to worry about radiation.

Liar This is what the WIKi article about B 12 deficiency (caused by pernicious anemia, but the outcome is the same) says "Failure to treat can lead to severe consequences for those with severe PA. Giving rise to the name, "pernicious," meaning fatal, patients may experience symptoms such as severe fatigue, depression, irritability, neurological damage, heart and organ failure, and even death." It's what killed the sharpshooter Annie Oakley. While you want to pretend that "people dont die from lack of that vitamin, at worse there memory gets a bit worse." So, you are prepared, not just to kill people, but to lie about doing so. And your idea that "there would be systems in place and powers at play that will make the problem of B12 deficiency disappear overnight with a single signature, if it will be, as you said, such a huge medical issue." would be laughable if it were not for the tragedy of the real situation. Those "powers" can't even supply water to everyone: why do you think they could supply something complicated like B12.

Did you read this bit of what I said? Strictly , the requirement for 3.5 (or even pi) dimensions only occurs if the transition is gradual, but since you said "is collapsing" you imply an on-going process which we are currently in the middle of. That's what I meant. This "shrink until it popped out of existence" is the issue. What about when you were half way through the pop? If it's a sudden change then there isn't a half way stage but his wording tells us that the change is gradual. For any particular bit of the ice, the change is sudden. that's a different issue.

Do you understand that this (unevinced) assertion "A simple law should lead to a simple orbital shape: circular.". is just plain wrong? A simple law leads to one of a collection of simple paths, all of them are conic sections, some count as orbits and some of those are circles. But they are all simple in that they are the shape you get from the intersection of a plane and a cone.

Still waiting for evidence of the epidemic.

Well, since you said "Is the universe expanding,because it is collapsing from 4 dimensions to only 3 dimensions?" I assumed that you mean that it was making some sort of transition from 4 dimensions to three. That's clearly inconsistent with the assertion that "There would always be 4 dimensions." Which do you mean? Do you mean it ends up with three dimensions (in which case it must go through a stage of having 3.5) or do you mean it continues to have 4 dimensions in which case your initial post makes no sense because there is no such collapse? Strictly , the requirement for 3.5 (or even pi) dimensions only occurs if the transition is gradual, but since you said "is collapsing" you imply an on-going process which we are currently in the middle of.

"Repenting in a true sense is sufficient to overcome the consequences of past actions." Nonsense. If someone steals my stuff then kills my friend, but "repents" does that bring my stuff back and reincarnate my friend? No, of course it doesn't. So it obviously has not overcome the effects of their actions. I can't understand how anyone could write such obvious nonsense. As for "The price of a lack of virtue is a disordered soul, says Socrates." If you, or Socrates, want to bring a soul into the discussion then they need to define what it is and prove that it exists. And that would be a topic for another thread. You can not simply assume the soul's existence here.

In order to shrink over any finite period of time from 4 dimensions to three, at some point it would need to have three and a a half dimensions. Is that a meaningful concept? If not, how could the "shrinking" happen?

Science does not affirm that at all. If you think it does, please cite some evidence (and please don't waste yet more time with arguments from authority). Otherwise stop making that false claim. I know the Ancient Greeks knew it was round, but older peoples thought it was flat. Since they are older, according to your argument, those older people were right so the earth is flat. Or do you realise that "old" isn't the same as "right"?

"Finally based on the fact that B12 is less than £1 a week to supplement i think its time we drop it from the charter." I presume that you intend personally to ensure that everybody gets their share delivered to them. Or are you still advocating mass murder? Water is pretty cheap too, but plenty of people die for the want of it. "So based on this information, which i will verify personally tomorrow by buying 300 supplementary tablets for myself. Then i think this issue of B12 will be disclosed, agreed?" Of course not. The price isn't the issue. How did you come to the conclusion that it was?

"Repentance properly understood does away with the karmic consequnces of past actions." still has no meaning.

Yes, there are.

"As you may know, PHOLEDs, which is short form for PHosphorescent Organic Light Emitting Diodes, can convert up to 100% of electricity into white light.." Nope, they can't.

"Look at this way, if you was a cow what would you want to do? keep being caged, watch your young die, being made massively overweight and having problems with muscular pain your whole life to then finally get murdered. (this is within regulation, regardless of behind the door cruelty and torture) Or would you say NO, ive had enough, kill me, and if all generations that follow are to be subjected to the same conditions, kill all my kids too, so they dont suffer?" Moo. I'm not a cow, so I can contemplate my future. So the question is meaningless, but designed to be emotive, rather than scientific. Why did you do that? Anyway, you can't sidestep the problem that way. Why do you want to murder the poor people?