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This teacher didn't refer to a student "harassing" the classroom with 'too many questions'. I will need to look up the exact quote, but he said something along the lines of "if you lead me in a rabbit chase you will have to have a TALK after class". It was quite obvious this guy threatens the kids against asking questions he can't quite answer - or questions that has to do with Christian faith. He also emphasized that the ENTIRE corricullum is about Christian faith. Their "SPANISH" textbooks are "SPANISH FOR CHRISTIAN SCHOOLS" for heaven's sakes. He explained that *everything they learn* comes in relation to hell/heaven and God. Questions about that are unacceptable. Their scare tactics are horrific. 1. I'm not asking the religious folks, they obviously disagree with me. Btw -- only Evangelicals disagree.. many other denominations of Christian faith actually criticize the "Hell House" production very very hard. 2. I am not asking the religious folks, I'm asking you.. do *you* consider this child abuse. I think that the level of scaring the brains off of those children if they even dare think of a *question* (I don't even begin suggesting what would happen if someone actually commits an action "against" faith) -- doubt is not something that is very much controllable always, and the mere fact some kid has doubt about something -- and his parents, teachers and entire society warns him that he will go for eternal damnation for not being sorry for THINKING is child abuse in my eyes. It's damn dangerous, too. ~moo

I just finished watching "Hell House" - a documentary about the Evangelical play "Hell House": http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hell_house And I am still quite in shock. I wasn't raised in America, so the concept of widely-available "pushed-to-the-public" Evangelical stuff is new to me. This, however, seems to be worse than anything else I've seen. They're more than ignorant, they're teaching their children that questions would get them into hell (and show it quite vividly, what hell is). They're building a very vivid settings of what hell should be like, building scenes that are supposed to "represent" the lives of nonbelievers. Just a few "facts": 1. Date rape drug is going to be named the OFFICIAL date rape drug. People use it voluntarily before dates. 2. The occult is using the star of david (either that, or they didn't even check what a pentagram is). 3. The K-12 teacher introduces himself to his class. He writes his basic "set of rules": (a) Ask questions (b) don't ask dumb questions. He goes on to say that most people claim there is no such thing a 'dumb question', but if anyone starts asking too many questions, he will have to have a TALK with him. They don't only do that to their own children, they seem to push it around the country for everyone to see. Their children, however, seem to swalllow this shit without question. Unsurprisingly. I couldn't help wondering... Shouldn't this count as child abuse? Is this legal?? They're not just 'preaching', they are outright lying, scaring the brains off of children.. Psychological abuse by psychotic parents having nothing better to do than to scare the minds of their children, feeding them wholesale lies in the process? What do you guys think..? (NPR show about it here: http://www.npr.org/programs/wesat/features/2002/aug/hellhouse/)

Okay I'm CERTAIN this is an idiotic question, but I'm stuck, so.. help. The question is as follows: This isn't a hard question for part A.. this is what I did: disp('--(a)-- With For Loop:'); %calculate max value (to compare to): t=4; x=5*t-10; y=25*t^2-120*t+144; minDist=sqrt(x^2+y^2); for t=0:0.1:4 x=5*t-10; y=25*t^2-120*t+144; %calculate distance: Dist = sqrt(y^2 + x^2); if Dist<minDist minDist=Dist; minT=t; minX=x; minY=y; end end Xminimum=5*minT-10; Yminimum=25*minT^2-120*minT+144; TimeForMinimum=minT MinimumDistance=minDist But I'm getting stuck at part b, where I'm nto supposed to use "for" loop. I started by representing the equation with x in terms of y: disp('--(b)-- Without For Loop:'); % represent t in terms of y(x): t = [0:0.1:4]; x = 5.*t-10; y = 25.*((x+10)./5).^2 - 120.*(x+10)./5 + 144; %plot(x,y) minY=min(y) The Y minimum value is set up great, but now I am in trouble as to how to find the X value when Y is minY.... egh. I'm not supposed to use loop, and I'm not sure how to get the index of the X value that gives minY... so I dont know how to extract 'minX'... Anyone? help... Thanks!! ~moo Okay I updated part B a bit. First, I simplified y(x) equation, then used 'roots' to find the values of x.. My problem now is that this method does not bring the same answer as the other method (using 'for' loop). disp('--(b)-- Without For Loop:'); % represent t in terms of y(x): t = [0:0.1:4]; x = 5.*t-10; y=x.^2-4*x+4; minY=min(y) newD=4-minY; %new equation: 0 = x^2 - 4x + newD rootsvec=[1 -4 newD]; minX=roots(rootsvec); %chose the minimum value of the two minX=min(abs(minX)) %calculate minimum distance: distance=sqrt(minX^2 + minY^2); %display results: disp('X/Y Values closest to origin:'); Xmin=minX Ymin=minY distance=distance these are the outputs: --(a)-- With For Loop: TimeForMinimum = 2.2000 MinimumDistance = 1.4142 --(b)-- Without For Loop: minY = 0 minX = 2 X/Y Values closest to origin: Xmin = 2 Ymin = 0 distance = 2 Notice, part A answers and part B answers don't correlate.. I don't know why... :\ help? update: %% disp('--(b)-- Without For Loop:'); % represent t in terms of y(x): t = [0:0.1:4]; x = 5.*t-10; y = x.^2-4*x+4; dist= (x.^2+y.^2).^(1/2); R=min(dist) %draw a new equation (circle) with radius R circX=[-2*R:0.1:2*R] circY=(R.^2-circX.^2).^(1/2); %look for intersections: That's where I'm stuck now.. intersections. The roots are messing me up, and i can't come out with a polynomial = 0 if I get that, I can solve it...

Yeah I was only looking at part A. I was right with using energies, though, right?

There is certainly a way to calculate this using tension, but I would do it using energies (but since I'm taking physics for the first time since highschool, please double check it.. I'm almost sure this is right, but not 100% sure) When the pendulum is 45 degrees up, it has potential energy: [math]mgh[/math] When the pendulum is at the bottom (90 degrees from the horizontal) it has no potential energy, but just kinetic energy: [math]1/2*mv^2[/math] The variables are: m = 0.12 kg g = 9.8 m/s^2 I calculated the h using trigonometry. The rope length is 0.8, so when the pendulum is 45 degrees, the mass is 0.566m distance from the horizontal 'ceiling' (0.8cos(45)) and the difference between the two is 0.8-0.566=0.234 so: h = 0.234 Conservation of energy says E1=E2 So: [math]mgh=(1/2)*mv^2[/math] [math]v=sqrt(2*g*h)[/math] [math]v=sqrt(2*(9.8 m/s^2) * (0.234 m))[/math] so: [math]v=2.14 m/s[/math] I must say, I am not entirely sure you can use conservation of energies with a pendulum, but the question specified the string has no mass and there is no air resistence, so there shouldn't be any external forces to 'ruin' the conservation of eneregy. If anyone thinks this is wrong, though, please correct me, and I would appreciate knowing why would conservation not work here, if it doesn't. It should.. I would think. In any case, drawing a free body diagram is always a good idea. It's the first thing I do with any question, even for the sole purpose that it sorts things out in my head and shows me what I do have and don't have. Like here, for instance, just drawing the diagram showed me that I have all variables for mgh and 1/2mv^2 that are needed to solve using energies.. Free body diagram also helps with the Tension and other forces that aren't supplied, because you can see right away which forces affect the Tension.. Anyways, I hope that helps..? ~moo ---- EDIT ----- Okay I missed the fact that lots of other people answered already (I didn't notice there's a second page so firsts off, this is question 3 part a, and second, I see no one used conservation of energy, so I would love to know if I was right or not. G'luck anyways, ecoli.. I'm in it too.. only my college calls it "Physics 207".. egh ~moo

'fact'. Beyond the spelling, it is the fact you seem to be mistaking words for other words with different meaning. I could probably understand through spelling errors, but some of your errors mean something completely different, and that's completely confusing. ~moo

Definition: FACT (Source: The Free Dictionary) (Source: Merriam Webster Dictionary) Definition: PROOF (Source: The Free Dictionary) (Source: Merriam Webster Dictionary) I suggest you learn these, and take them to heart the next time you tell anyone you supplied proof, or that anything is a 'fact'. Then, I may consider not thinking of you as a Quack. ~moo

In the spirit of sharing, here's my news module. Language: PHP/mySQL Purpose: Complete News Marquee module for dynamic websites. Includes a control panel. Control Panel (named 'news.php'): <?php /* Site News Module v1.0 by mooeypoo http://moriel.schottlender.net/ mooeypoo@gmail.com ***** You may use the code if you give proper credit. ***** */ session_start(); //put whatever connection string you use //to connect to your mySQL database here //--- This is the Control Panel Page: --- if (isset($ErrMSG)) { ?> <table width=60% border="1" align="center" cellpadding="5" cellspacing="0" bordercolor="#990000" bgcolor="#FFCC33"><tr><td><font size=2><b><?php print $ErrMSG;?></b></font></td></tr></table><br /> <?php } ?> <hr align="center" width="80%" size="1" /> <table width="40%" align="center" cellpadding="5" cellspacing="0"><tr><td align="left" valign="middle" bgcolor="#999999"><font size="1"><strong>Site News</strong></font></td></tr><tr><td align="left" valign="middle" bgcolor="#CCCCCC"> <?php $Query="SELECT * FROM tNewsTable WHERE newsValid='YES' ORDER BY newsDate DESC"; $queryexe = mysql_query($Query); if (mysql_num_rows($queryexe)==0) { print "No News Items available."; } else { ?> <marquee onMouseOver="this.scrollAmount=0" onMouseOut="this.scrollAmount=2" scrollamount=2 direction=up height=120> <?php while($Row = mysql_fetch_array($queryexe)) { $validVALUE = "YES"; $buttonBG = "#339933"; $buttonTEXT = "Make Visible"; $IsVisible="invisible"; $fontCOLOR="#666666"; if ($Row["nValid"] == "YES") { $IsVisible="visible"; $fontCOLOR="#333333"; $validVALUE = "NO"; $buttonBG = '#FF6666'; $buttonTEXT = 'Make Invisible'; } print "<font size=2><b>".stripslashes($Row["newsCaption"])."</b></font><br>"; print "<font size=1><i>".date("l, F jS, Y",$Row["newsDate"])." at ".date("H:i",$Row["newsDate"])."</i></font><br>"; print "<font size=1>".stripslashes($Row["newsContent"])."</font><br>"; if ($Row["newsLink"]!="") { print "<font size=1><a href='".stripslashes($Row["newsLink"])."'>more info</a></font><br><br>"; } } ?> </marquee> <?php } ?> </td> </tr> </table> <hr align="center" width="80%" size="1" /> <table width="90%" align="center" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="0" class="tblBorderOnly"> <tr> <td colspan="8" align="center" valign="middle" bgcolor="#999999"><font size="1"><strong>Manage Site News</strong></font></td> </tr> <?php $Query="SELECT * FROM tNewsTable ORDER BY newsDate DESC"; $queryexe = mysql_query($Query); if (mysql_num_rows($queryexe)==0) { print "<td align=\"left\" valign=\"middle\" bgcolor=\"#CCCCCC\">"; print "No News Items available."; print "</td>"; } else { while($Row = mysql_fetch_array($queryexe)) { $validVALUE = "YES"; $buttonBG = "#339933"; $buttonTEXT = "Make Visible"; $IsVisible="invisible"; $fontCOLOR="#666666"; if ($Row["nValid"] == "YES") { $IsVisible="visible"; $fontCOLOR="#333333"; $validVALUE = "NO"; $buttonBG = '#FF6666'; $buttonTEXT = 'Make Invisible'; } ?> <tr> <td bgcolor=#CCCCCC><font size=1 color="<?php print $fontCOLOR;?>"><b>This item is <?php print $IsVisible;?></b></font></td> <td bgcolor=#CCCCCC><font size=1 color="<?php print $fontCOLOR;?>"><b><?php print stripslashes($Row["newsCaption"]);?></b></font></td> <td bgcolor=#CCCCCC><font size=1 color="<?php print $fontCOLOR;?>"><b><?php print date("l, F jS, Y",$Row["newsDate"])." at ".date("H:i",$Row["newsDate"]);?></b></font></td> <td bgcolor=#CCCCCC><font size=1 color="<?php print $fontCOLOR;?>"><b><?php print stripslashes($Row["newsContent"]);?></b></font></td> <td bgcolor=#CCCCCC><font size=1 color="<?php print $fontCOLOR;?>"><b><?php print stripslashes($Row["newsLink"]);?></b></font></td> <td width="1%" align="center" valign="middle" bgcolor=#CCCCCC> <form action="newsaction.php" method=post class="NoMargins"> <input type=hidden name=action value="ChangeValid" /> <input type=hidden name=nValidValue value="<?php print $validVALUE;?>" /> <input type=hidden name=newsID value="<?php print $Row["ID"]?>" /> <input type=submit class="inpLoginSubmit" value="<?php print $buttonTEXT;?>" style="background-color:<?php print $buttonBG;?>" /> </form> </td> <td width="1%" align="center" valign="middle" bgcolor=#CCCCCC> <form action="newsaction.php" method=post class="NoMargins"> <input type=hidden name=action value="DeleteItem" /> <input type=hidden name=newsID value="<?php print $Row["ID"]?>" /> <input type=submit class="inpLoginSubmit" value="Delete" style="background-color: #003366; color:#FFFF33;" /> </form> </td> </tr> <?php } } ?> </table> <form action="newsaction.php" method=post class="NoMargins"> <input type=hidden name=action value="AddNewsItem" /> <table width="60%" align="center" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="0"> <tr> <td colspan="8" align="center" valign="middle" bgcolor="#999999"><strong><font size="1">Add News Item </font></strong></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="25%" align="left" valign="middle" bgcolor="#CCCCCC"><strong><font size="1">Item Title:</font></strong></td> <td colspan="4" align="center" valign="middle" bgcolor="#CCCCCC"><input name="nCaption" type="text" class="inpLoginText" id="nCaption" style="width:95%;" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td align="left" valign="top" bgcolor="#CCCCCC"><strong><font size="1">Item Contents :</font></strong></td> <td colspan="8" align="center" valign="middle" bgcolor="#CCCCCC"><textarea name="nContent" class="inpLoginText" id="nContent" style="width:95%; height:100px;"></textarea></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="25%" align="left" valign="middle" bgcolor="#CCCCCC"><strong><font size="1">Link:</font></strong></td> <td colspan="8" align="center" valign="middle" bgcolor="#CCCCCC"><input name="nLink" type="text" class="inpLoginText" id="nLink" style="width:95%;" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="8" align="center" valign="middle" bgcolor="#CCCCCC"><input name="submit" type="submit" class="inpSmallButton" value="Add News Item" /></td> </tr> </table> </form> The actions page (named 'newsaction.php'): <?php session_start(); /* Site News Module v1.0 by mooeypoo http://moriel.schottlender.net/ mooeypoo@gmail.com ***** You may use the code if you give proper credit. ***** */ //put whatever connection string you use //to connect to your mySQL database here //--- This is the code action page --- switch ($action) { case "ChangeValid": $Query="UPDATE tNewsTable SET newsValid='".$nValidValue."' WHERE ID=".$newsID; $queryexe = mysql_query($Query); //go back to page: $err=ErrMessage("News item editted successfully."); header("Location: news.php?ErrMSG=".$err); exit; break; case "AddNewsItem": //protect data: $nCaption=mysql_real_escape_string($nCaption); $nContent=mysql_real_escape_string($nContent); $nLink=mysql_real_escape_string($nLink); $Query="INSERT INTO tblSiteNews(newsCaption,newsContent,newsLink,newsValid,newsDate) VALUES('".$nCaption."','".$nContent."','".$nLink."','YES',".time().")"; $queryexe = mysql_query($Query); //go back to page: $err=ErrMessage("News item added successfully."); header("Location: news.php?ErrMSG=".$err); exit; break; case "DeleteItem": //first, ask if user is sure: print "<center>"; print "<b><font size=+2 color=blue>Are you sure you want to delete this news item? This action cannot be undone.</font></b><br>"; print "<b><font size=+2><a href='?ModuleName=NewsModule&action=DeleteItemApproved&ItemID=".$newsID."' style='color:red;'>Yes, Delete!</font></b><br>"; $err=ErrMessage("News Item was NOT deleted."); print "<b><font size=+2 color=red><a href='mod-news.php?ErrMSG=".$err."' style='color:blue;'>No, Don't Delete!</font></b>"; print "</center>"; break; case "DeleteItemApproved": $Query="DELETE FROM tblSiteNews WHERE ID=".$ItemID; $queryexe = mysql_query($Query); //go back to page: $err=ErrMessage("News item was deleted permanently."); header("Location: news.php?ErrMSG=".$err); exit; break; } ?> The presentation snippet (wherever you want it): <?php /* Site News Module v1.0 by mooeypoo http://moriel.schottlender.net/ mooeypoo@gmail.com ***** You may use the code if you give proper credit. ***** */ session_start(); //put whatever connection string you use //to connect to your mySQL database here ?> <!-- News Module by mooeypoo http://moriel.schottlender.net/ --> <table width=100% border=0 cellpadding=2 cellspacing=0> <tr> <td align="center" valign="middle" bgcolor="#6699CC"><font size=1><b>Site News</b></font></td> </tr> <tr> <td align="left" valign="middle" bgcolor="#aac7e1"> <?php $Query="SELECT * FROM tNewsTable WHERE newsValid='YES' ORDER BY newsDate DESC"; $queryexe = mysql_query($Query); if (mysql_num_rows($queryexe)==0) { print "No News Items available."; } else { ?> <marquee onMouseOver="this.scrollAmount=0" onMouseOut="this.scrollAmount=2" scrollamount=2 direction=up height="100"> <?php print "<br><br><br><br><br><br>"; while($Row = mysql_fetch_array($queryexe)) { print "<center><font size=2><b>".$Row["newsCaption"]."</b></font></center><br>"; print "<font size=1><i>".date("l, F jS, Y",$Row["newsDate"])." at ".date("H:i",$Row["newsDate"])."</i></font><br>"; print "<font size=1>".stripslashes($Row["newsContent"])."</font><br>"; if ($Row["newsLink"]!="") { print "<font size=1><a href='".stripslashes($Row["newsLink"])."'>more info</a></font><br><br>"; } } print "<br><br><br><br>"; ?> </marquee> <?php } ?> </td></tr></table> <!-- END News Module Snippet --> And, if you wish to create the proper table, here is the SQL command: -- -- Table structure for table `tNewsTable` -- CREATE TABLE IF NOT EXISTS `tNewsTable` ( `ID` int(11) NOT NULL auto_increment, `newsType` text NOT NULL, `newsCaption` text NOT NULL, `newsContent` text NOT NULL, `newsLink` text NOT NULL, `newsValid` text NOT NULL, `newsDate` int(11) NOT NULL default '0', UNIQUE KEY `ID` (`ID`) ) TYPE=MyISAM AUTO_INCREMENT=17 ; An example of this code can be found here: http://moriel.schottlender.net/mod-news.php Enjoy, and feel free to use it, with proper credits! ~moo

The problem with free speech is that it's a very wide definition. Technically, a teacher teaching evolution and then winking to his students with a "But I don't REALLY believe that crap!" statement is part of free speech as well, but - I would assume you agree? - should probably NOT be legal to do. It's more than just the position of the teacher as an educator, it's the fact he has *power* over the students (I am refering specifically to, let's say, elementary school, where children are more susceptible to 'molding' by the teacher); he has a position of power and he is *taking advantage of it*. So, maybe free speech should be limited by considering people in positions of power. Another example -- if someone is a racist, and states that african americans are dumber than caucasians, that is freedom of speech. If the president of the united states does that, it's no longer under 'free speech'. So where's the limit? ~moo

I didn't know that.. I thought it was used by people who weren't aware it is addictive and harmful, and then was abused by people... This is very interesting, and indeed seems to fit! thanks!! ~moo

Yeah, dude, please, use spell check. You sound like you're trying to ask why consciousness is hard to define? Why we can't think of it as an object? Consciousness is a word that was invented by humans to define the state of life -- it's not an object, it's an idea, which is why defining it is so hard, and why thinking of it as an 'object' is so hard as well. The mind is not physically separated from what we consider our conscious self; so physically -- TECHNICALLY -- consciousness doesn't REALLY exist. "Thinking" is a process that we would like to define as magnificent, but if you think about it, it's nothing more than neurons in our brain interacting. The process is affected by out evolution (imagination has a lot of aspects that were 'born' from our initial state as pray in the wild,which is - some say - the possible source for all those 'falling without a parachute' nightmares). I'm trying to make sense of your words, but I am asking you to take the least bit of respect for US and use spell check. You're quite impossible to understand... ~moo

I'm not sure I'd include "Psychotherapy" and "Counseling" under such a definition. They tend to have long term effect if done correctly, and some people actually do have mental diseases - or 'conditions' - that require those, and do improve upon receiving treatment. On the long run as well. ~moo

so you still don't have proof. Quack. I wouldn't, I - unlike you - know what science is. Quack. QUACK. You still have no proof, and we won't consider quackery without proof. People *have* changed their minds (If you'd know SCIENCE, you'd know that... and you'd know the many many many many many examples of new theories that were shocking -- and ACCEPTED! wow. Amazing. How'd they do that! oh.. shoot! the small detail of supplying proof. Damnit, how petty scientists are. Damnit! You don't know science. You're a quack. And you really are boring. The only reason this thread went over 4 pages is because I seem to keep trying. You're a quack. I'm dropping this. You're an insult to science, and I must let you go. ~moo

It's also about the symbolism. This isn't a single person yelling in the background, they are a recognized church who's well familiar in the news, and quite rich from their terrible endeavors. They don't just "warn" people, they *mock*. Did you ever see them in action? It's not just a "this is what happens when God is disobeyed" demonstration, this is a laughing/yelling/dancing-around "party" with personal insults and mockery.. they research the people they are going to protest against and show pictures, history... this is a PERSONAL *planned* attack, it's not just a political statement. ~moo

It's not about the rephrasing, it's about the english. I am probably the *LAST ONE* to criticize english - as it isn't my primary language as well - but your typos and grammars make it hard to understand what you're writing.. try to use spell check... I don't mean to ridicule and I don't mean any disrespect, but really.. we can't answer if we don't understand waht you are asking. I am assuming you are asking why two men at different times end up with the conclusion of them being reincarnated (PLEASE correct me if I am wrong) --> but I am not sure who you are refering to.. I never felt like I was reincarnated, nor do I know anyone who does. I know *of* people who claim to feel that, but that's only that--a claim.. reincarnation is highly improbable, and definitely isn't proven (to say the least). So I am not quite sure what it is you are asking. Try to be more specific.. and please try to go over with spell check, so we understand you. ~moo

I think my brain just dripped through my ears... Come again?

Here's a good example for what you are trying to do, fripro -- Science fiction! I'm not trying to ridicule, but just think about it: Science fiction shows do EXACTLY that: They come up with a false premise (on purpose), like - for instance - that there is a sublayer to space called "Subspace" and it has different properties than spacetime itself. From then on, *most* of the science works WONDERFULLY. If you think about Star Trek, for example, their science is pretty decent, if you ignore the *false* basic premises. At the very least, these premises are unproven (and most have been proven plain wrong), but if you ignore that "minor" fact, I have an entire book called "Star Trek Technical Manual" and it explains *in detail* how warp drive works (math too) and how FTL happens without a problem due to subspace, etc. The only problem is that subspace is not only NOT PROVEN, it's almost certain to be false. But it's a science fiction show, so who cares. Your theory has the same problem: Your basic premise (The "Ether Particle") is a made-up argument. Your entire theory stands on it -- it might be doing very well (I didn't have time to actually review your math or other extrapolations of it) but the fact still remains: Your initial hypothesis is FALSE. That makes your idea science fiction. It also makes it unfit for Science Forums; perhaps it should go to Hollywood production forums; they accept every quirky idea that is shot their way. Good luck. ~moo

Actually, that's not quite true. A lot of creationists find it more logical to object to global warming because of their belief. Evangelists are the worst, because a lot of them believe global warming is actually a GOOD thing, since it may hurry-up the "second coming" and the "rapture". Check these out: (evangelist)http://www.answersingenesis.org/articles/am/v1/n2/human-caused-global-warming (creationist) And this: http://www.rr-bb.com/showthread.php?p=254274 and this: http://www.raptureready.com/rr-environmental.html Sad but true. ~moo ((I couldn't edit the post directly, so I am assuming this will join the upper one)) In any case I wanted to add that the SADDEST part of it all is that Shirley Phelps Roper actually reads the bible LITERALLY.. the bible *does* order to kill off homosexuals, beat up disobedient kids and much more. Other religious groups seem to claim these parts are NOT valid anymore (at least that) but technically, those who claim to literally go by the bible should behave exactly like her. That's the sad part.

Did you *SEE* how that phelps woman looks!? she's INSANE.... Seriously... it's horrible. Look here: look at her smiiiilee... it's creepy There's another video of her with Tyra Banks show, where her daughters speak and.. she looks like a friggin MONSTER... I couldn't find it atm, though. Look it up on YouTube. ~moo

Yeah, De Broglie's Hypothesis (I can't believe I need to put references FOR you), and I couldn't find any references for Thomas Edward other than YOUR website that seems to define him as the father of dialup (..?) please put references. I also didn't find ANYTHING about "WIT Particle" other than *your book*. Please supply references for that as well. I do not tend to take "your word" for it. Anyone's "word for it" for that matter. Since *none of this is referenced*, none of this is substantiated. You *AGAIN* made a claim with no proof. This only served as a proof that you HAVE NO PROOF. Listen.. you calculate a particle you FAILED to prove exists, okay? Let me tell this again: The length of the pink unicorn's nose is 13.22 inches. I calculate by noting that the shadow casted on my pillow while I dance the polka is slightly tilted, which suggests that my pillow is moving faster than the speed of light. Therefore, the length must be close to 2 and smaller than 20000; the obvious conclusion about the unicorn's belly is that the nose it attatched through the neck. Therefore it is 13.22 inches long. That is the extent of *your* claims. I would NOT expect you to believe my theory any more than ANYONE should be expected to follow yours. Not only do you NOT supply evidence, you just DECIDE something exists (ETHER! DAMNIT PROVE IT!!) and go for it. Unicorns were not proven to exist; therefore I wouldn't expect anyone to even BOTHER reading my so called "theory" or DEAL with it before I manage to convince people they *DO* exist. That's the first step. PRove they exist. Only then I can start measuring - or hypothesizing - about the size of their external (or internal) organs and the meaning of it. Do you understand now? ~moo

The main issue is that the origin of Chiropractic is BULL. The only half decent chiropractors today are the ones who DO NOT follow the true philosophy and practice of Chiropractic. Chiropractors who still deal with 'sublaxation' (however you spell it) are QUACKS. No other way to put it. Q-U-A-C-K-S. Those who deny the stupidity of subluxation and just deal with the bones, while knowing the dangers about these methods (you can seriously make damage to the back if doing it wrong, or treating a patient with actual back problems) are not "true" chiropractors. Actually, there's a movement amongst the new NON-Sublaxation chiropractors to CHANGE their name from chiropractic to something else, so they stop being related to the quacks. Check this out, btw (BULLSHIT episode, about quack medicine): http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&VideoID=7843377 Also, these: http://www.quackwatch.com/01QuackeryRelatedTopics/chirovisit.html http://skepdic.com/chiro.html and of course: Subluxations -> http://www.echiropractic.net/what_is_a_subluxation.htm ~moo

If it's on the floor, you could always dig a tunnel in...

No, you didn't, you supplied random links defining random terms you raised. None was - in any way, shape or form - any CLOSE to even remotely attempting to prove what you are saying.. And you're doing it now, by *again* avoiding proof (because you obviously don't have it, I'm on to you) and throwing off the argument on another insane tangent. You have no proofs, just claims. That's not science, it's quackery, but beyond that, it's extremely unfair preaching on your part. You're not ARGUING, you're PREACHING and quite frankly, it's getting very annoying. We already know you have no proofs. Just drop the subject already. Yes, it took iNow to FINALLY show what your true agenda is, so we could *finally* read something a bit more substantial about your claims -- seeing as you continously INGORED out pleas for proof. Of course, reading that didn't help much.. but.. at least iNow tried. No one used it against you. People asked you to cooperate and you DIDN'T. We found your book (the one you're TALKING ABOUT in this thread!) and read it. Are you serious in claiming this is AGAINST you?! wtf? You are preaching to people who know better. We asked for proof and you try to use stupid avoidance tactics to NOT supply proof, obviously because you don't have them. We don't accept proofless theories, that's the bottom line. ~moo

Here's a link for you, fripro, from the forum rules: http://insti.physics.sunysb.edu/~siegel/quack.html and this, of course, where the link is taken from: http://www.scienceforums.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24349 You seem to fill the entire set of conditions... kudos on the effort, i guess. quackaduck. ~moo