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Ah. So that would've made a horrible realization mid-mission to find out your suit is really pressuring your body, I would imagine. ~moo

I completely lost you. How is saying "higher power /nature - is omniscience and has intention" not a definition of a diety?

I wonder how they first found out about this 2 inch difference. I can see the situation: Huston: "Okay, You should not prepare for the first walk in space, let's make sure we beat Aleksei Leonov, shall we?" Astronaut: "Acknowledge, huston, I am preparing the space suit now..." [sTATIC] Astronaut: "Ahhh.. huston.. we have a problem.. The suit is 2 inches too small." Huston: "Someone get the tailor! Make sure he converted inches to centimeters right!!" ... ~moo

Oh, heck that's easy: 1. Money: If they control the internet, they can direct your computer into commercials (forcefeed you) they get paid for, deny you access to sites that don't pay them money.. you know.. something similar to the mafia. 2. Power, man, power! Knowledge is power, then controlling knowlegde sources is the ultimate power. The world is being controlled by media, and controlling the media - or such huge source of it as the internet - is obtaining almost unlimited power. The fact that the chinese regime does it, answer your previous question. And you're right, politicians would surely avoid doing ANYTHING despicable for the sake of power and money. Yes. We should count on it.. Not really. Most of the internet's backbone and major servers are in america. Cut down america's free-stream of data, and you cut down a major part of the worlds network data fetching abilities.

Sisyphus what the heck is that site you braught I'm staring at it for an hour... O.o ~moo

I use it for a while now, and I actually like the tabs. It does crash every now and then, but then again -- so did the previous version. As for security, I don't see any visible change: the ActiveX scripts are still stopped, and I had to tweak it quite massively to get cookies to work but.. you cannever know with microsoft ~moo

hehe you should take a career in writing!! It damn well might!! There is just something I want to figure out to make this sound more realistic -- how can a discovery of gravitons become realistic? If we didn't discover their existance (proven) yet, we can't MAKE them either.. so .. any ideas? Plus, I had an idea... I read somewhere about Fusion (not fission!) reactor, and the fact that its not yet existing, but it should be realistic to do. I also read that fusion is what happens inside the sun with the particles fusing together creating massive energy (and consisting the sun itself really.. from what i understood).. If something like this does happen and we find a way to create fusion generator in a form of a man-made small star (lets assume it is small enough and stable enough to be harnessed and relatively contained) -- would this create gravity aswell? I'm like.. stretching.. everything.. here.. and I have no idea what I'm talking about really, I just had an idea while reading about fusion and comparing it to the sun.. I might be completely off course here, and if I am, then I appologize.. ~moo

What would it take, and feel free to speculate, obviously, to detect -- or use -- gravitrons? ~moo

I am not sure this is quite what he meant, but that raises a question really... what did this question mean: by "Conscious Universe" -- do you mean the universe has an intention by doing things? That implies on a sort of an entity to the universe... is that what you meant, artnat? ~moo

I am sorry, but in terms of ethics, I don't believe in either human or animal experminentation for the sole purpose of knowledge. The only reason I see this as ethical, is if an animal is not suffering over the experiment, or if a human being knows exactly what is going to happen to him, and signs up. Those are the two sole cases that "solely-for-knowledge" experimentations are in my opinion ethical. If you go to pure knowledge to justify experimentation of human beings or animals, you must then be confronted by the long and old question and debate about Nazi advancements; they have reached many advancements in medicine and science, but with the suffering of many many people.. are you really suggesting it was worth it? I am under the opinion that there are often other ways to reach knowledge -- either NOT letting an animal suffer, or not killing it, for "just for pure knowledge" quests. Again: Life and Death situations are different.. but simply for knowledge? No.. I still think it's unethical. Specially, and mostly, since when a person declares it as being okay, it usually results in using it as an excuse to not even TRY to find other ways that don't involve experimentations, and that is bad.. ~moo

I hope you're right but I'm not all that sure.. what if my drawing would be an entirely curvy snake-like line? In such vast distances, it's possible.. would we really been able to pinpoint it? And concidering the fact a lot of our hypothesis on space and its behaviour has to do with those stars, and their location/movement/distance, i wonder if perhaps the possibility that we may be wrong in pinpointing some of them wouldn't change our basic assumptions and conclusions about other things about space... ~moo

Hi again guys, I have a question that's been bothering me for a while. I can't seem to find a definitive answer - a lot of sites explain about the fact that we are aware light is being twisted and curved on its way through the universe and towards our eyes, but none really explains how we manage to - despite that fact - figure out WHERE exactly the original object really is. I know that the color spectrum of a star visible to us tells us the curvature of its lightwave -- so that we can "uncurve" it.. or, at least this is what I could understand. What happens, however, if something goes through a few curvings? Light curves when it approaches space objects (other stars / black holes obviously) -- how do we know what was the original position of this star? I'm really confused about this, so just in case my question is confused like me, I add a little drawing. This is done in windows paint so it's quite not artistic You can see what I mean (I hope): The original Star emmits light towards us. This light SHOULD have gone on a straight line, and we would've been able to pinpoint it. However, two large bodies in space (just to show my point) curved the light twice, causing it to "travel" through space on the light-green curved line. We look at the light, and see the star where the blue spaced-line is, and pinpoint a wrong position. I would imagine that since the color of the curved light is different than white, we might be able to curve it back to approximately where the real star is, but -- are we? How can we know the ammount of times the light is curved? I gave a "simple" example, where the light is only twice curved and not too much curving.. but when the star is billions of light years away --- can we really pinpoint it's EXACT location, or are can we just be wrong..? Thanks in advance for any help with this.. quite baffling to me ~moo

Oops.. I did miss it, sorry Martin. I'll read it now, but thanks for the explanation, I was really wondering as to the mummy thing.. ~moo

"What doesn't work with force, works with more force." -- though it usually is wrong to inner-computer-workings, it sometimes is quite true Welcome back Demonsthenes I had the same problem once with the internal fan, but I am a scardycat.. let my friend nudge the thing forcefully (and successfully) into the base of it.. that way i could blame him if something went wrong haha I'm such a coward. ~moo

I do believe there are countries where it is legal to join an experimental group - often without quite knowing the rmaifications of the experiment, and for money... Oh.. uhm.. I do belive it exists in the USA.. I would suggest sticking to the topic.. discussing the ethics of human experimentations is QUITE a different subject. I understand you were writing in cynicism, hurray for your opinion, but .. I think it's taking the debate a bit off topic, and can create a bit of a havoc in here. Too bad to ruin such a nice debate, really.. Perhaps it should be discussed, really, in a new thread.. sounds interresting.. but anyways, it's not for this one ~moo

I'm sorry to be the absolute lamen here, but how does something like this happen? From what I've read about mummified human beings, this is a process that should carefully be DONE to the body -- obviously, no one "done" this intentionally to the dinosaur... how does this happen in nature and if it DOES indeed happen naturally, why is this the only time something like this is found, and is there a chance we find more? This is.. full of implications... woah.. ~moo

Not in my opinion, no. If the animal is not hurt or suffering in the process, then I don't see a bad thing if you call this 'experimentation' and run it.. but if the animal is suffering, or in pain, or if it dies; no, it's wrong. If you can get this knowledge in other ways, without killing animals, then do it. ~moo

Yeah. I read about that... well, we don't yet have definitive answer if this really was what she was having.. but if she does, she will be closely monitored by my mother to not even come close to any of the things she should'nt be Btw... could she have eaten gluten all her life with no affect and only now suddenly encountering it!?!? i saw what you guys said about suddenly having a break of the situation due to stress but.. but seriously, if this is a stomach condition that it cant break down gluten, i just cant see how she could have been a normal eating person up until now.. sorry if this is a repeat-question, I just.. can't understand it.. ~moo

Blike, I apreciate your help greatly, thanks a LOT!! btw, just an "extra" comment: In israel, unlike America, we have a Socialist-type thinking (faaaaaaaaar from perfect, but quite different than the USA) - one of its VERY good manifestations, is that we have practically free medical insurance, that includes almost everything. I remember paying about 40 NIS (equivalent to about 10USD) per month, for the "EXTRA EXTRA FEATURES" like dental bi-yearly free-preventative-measures and stuff like that... So thanks for the "it will be cheaper" but luckily, since Celiac is a known condition, the israeli insurance has it in its list of covered conditions and we won't pay a dime. Well.. maybe "a dime" is all we will pay.. In any case, thanks! ~moo

Here's my take: If there is any other way to conduct the experiment (yes, another way that costs more money IS another way) then animal testing is wrong, and should be avoided. Pain and suffering to the animal should be avoided at all cost, but with the lack of any other option, and I mean with SERIOUSLY NO OTHER WAY -- it is in my opinion not wrong to conduct. If you have no choice, and testing on an ape will save millions of people by giving a cure to Cancer or AIDS, it is not morally wrong to do in my opinion. The trouble starts when beuty-salon companies use the experiments to find other types of hair color.. USING THAT experiment while either hurting, maming, or using chemicals on an animal IS wrong. So in short: Anything that is not LIFE-AND-DEATH/No-Other-Option situation is morally wrong to conduct animal testing. ~moo

We're argentinians at home, she'd KILL someone if she wasn't able to eat meat so at least that. I've read somewhere that Celiac outburst in a person that is inclined to have the desease can occur due to stress related situations, or environmental variables such as sleep / food and such.... Anyone knows if this is true? This is very important, since if this violent occurance happened due to poor military conditions, we might want to get her shifted to a different base.. or.. kill their cleaners. ~moo