Klaplunk

I don't think I'm above any of you, I'm just sitting here as an equal. I think it's you who considered honor. I'm not the one caring about forum +reps or member of the month award. I'm far gone from the attention seeking stages. Why do we strive to find new technology or travel space? Shouldn't we care more for the people on Earth, and Earth itself. We treat life as a budding flower, or a complete flower, that is growing every second; rather than a flower that is dying. Shouldn't it be the opposite? Where we would just take care of our planet, and live how nature intended? Who knows what nature intended? Do you think it meant for us to steal Oil and other precious resources from other countries? And use gold and currency/power - instead of the hearts and minds of human beings being the main factor of power and respect? It seems that we are doing the opposite of what nature intended, so wouldn't we be getting the opposite answers of what we're looking for? We're not in control of the universe, we're in control of ourselves. And again, no-ones ever been inside the core. It could contain space, you're opinion is just as valid as mine. The same where I believe God is real and you don't (I think?). I think the universe Grew, and we skip that part, by immediately creating an imaginary 'Big Bang'. So we see creation in a adult view, rather than the child that proceeded it. I disagree totally with the way life is at the moment; I think there will be wars in the immediate future; a civil war in America - heck, I even believe Obama is the antichrist. I would much prefer to be living in the world we were promised, rather than the scientifically edited version -with global warming, biological warfare, cloning, synthetic life, technology, etc. Don't get me wrong, I do love the internet; and I enjoy using the technology given - that's because it's here and if I didn't accept it then life would be pretty dull. I am also given rules to live by - I can't just go outside and kill someone for food, or proove that I am the alpha male by being intelligent/strong willed; for that I would have to live by these rules and cheat my way to the top, by using money. If the world ended in 2012... Personally, I would be happy.

I read recently, and watched a video, on CNN.com; it was about a break-through in science, where scientists were able to forge DNA structure, giving them the ability to make custom plants/life; I'm not a scientist but I think it's called synthetic life, maybe not, anyway.. Is this true? If so, how long until we can create life forms with the same intelligence (or more) as our own?

Well as I've been told, science bases there view from a human veiwpoint. Where the top of the earth or 'outside' would be the mantle or crust we live on. Where our houses are built etc. Who's to say, that inside the core, is space, much like the outside, but contained within whatever the core is made from. No-ones ever been inside the core; so we make a logical guess that it isn't like that; however, without evidence to say what the inside of the core looks like, we cannot make a safe judgement. IF insdie the core was space, then who really is to say which side is top. We could all be living upside down, and we have no clue about it. So all of our theories and answers could only be relivant to us, rather than the universe. The universe could be a living organism; you can't proove it isn't(and never will), and you'll ALWAYS get people like me. If there wasn't people like me, you people wouldn't exist. I'm well aware of "cogito ergo sum", and I know if I drink bleach I die. I also know that my body has two halves. I know the earth, if it was hit by a meteor, it would explode or just die somehow.. So does that mean the Earth has two halves too? As it dies by 'real' things the same way I do?

I'm just arguing with science basically. I don't know what I'm talking about half of the time. I guess some of us just try to make life seem a bit more than a chemical bottle, or a dead end. Do you believe in after life? Does science believe there is no life after death? And if so, how is it possible for science to explain death, without explaining life? Last question

Sorry, I didn't explain it well 104 x 104 (104 + 4) = 108 (4x4) = 16 Connect both results: 10816 or (107 + 7) = 114 (7x7) = 49 Connect both results 11449 I also have a trick to substitute long division. Merged post follows: Consecutive posts merged221013 / 9 = 24557 (dividing by 9 trick) Copy 1st digit of the initial number. 2 Add the second digit of the original number, to the first, and make a new digit next to it, as the result. 2 + 2 = 4 So now we have 2 4 Now add the next number to your last created digit. 4 + 1 = 5 So now we have 2 4 5 Carry on in this manner and you'll get: 245569 However you don't accept the 9, you place it in this manner: 221013 / 9 24556 9 The '9' goes into the original 9, once. So you carry 1 back. Making it 24557 Merged post follows: Consecutive posts merged3 2 1 4 2 / 9 3 5 6(1) 12 357 12 9 goes into 12 once, with a remainder of 3. So carry 1 back. 3571 r3 Answer is 3571.33333333333r () = Carrying back.

Let's annotate this: 1) How do you know that the Sun and Earth don't rotate around each other simultaniously? We've never been close to the sun and from what I know we've never been passed it. 2) How do you know that the Sun isn't freezing cold? Have you even touched the Sun? Why can't there be an invisible ring of pixies circulating the Sun producing a wall of heat so to speak. 3) How do you know that the Sun is not just an illusion? It could just be a still picture in the sky, and the heat we recieve is just conjoured from thin air, or the invisible pixies in space. 4) Who's to tell you that the Earth has any mass at all? When you look out of your view, how do you know this isn't a figment of your imagination? From your senses you see existence, which no-one else sees, just you. You could never move an inch through your whole life, and you just think you are. Just some questions about your questions. Also, who's to say that the top of the Earth isn't in the core? You been there and checked I imagine?

I must admit, you should be a comedian. The funny thing is, I believe in the illuminati, so judging me as a conspiracy believer is a good and accurate judgement. However, on terms of wit and originality, I'll give you a 0/10. I may be esoteric compared to you, but I assure you I'm just as smart, if not smarter, than you are. Funny guy though, seriously, get a youtube show cause YOU ROCK. Seriously though, Lava?

Ok cool. What about lava though?

If all the oil ignited at once, would the earth turn into a ball of flames?

What temperature is the Earths core? And what temperature would the Earth be if it was just a ball of flames?

104 x 104 +4 = 108 4x4 = 16 104 x 104 = 10816 109 x 109 +9 = 118 9x9 = 81 109 x 109 = 11881 A little trick I use.

Personally, I think... All the oil burning at once, where it orginated, would cause immense heat underground, causing eruptions, maybe setting the earth itself alight. Remember, we're not just talking about a huge sea of oil; were talking about the earth, as it is, with no humans. If all the Oil was to burn at once, do you not think the earths temperature would increase??? not even a little bit? Also, on topic, the OP didn't mention the possibility off WW3; surely that has a big chance of occuring over the next few years.

99% correct according to science. Again you've missed the point. Also, if all the Oil ignited at once, you dont think there would be an increase in temperature, no?

No, it doesn't work other ways, only this one. As when God mentions 'it's good', he is seperating whatever the shape is, into two opposites, by existing. It doesn't work with random lines, and it whatever way you place the first line, you wil always get the same result; however he specifically says under and over, and doesn't give a exact direction; so why think there is one? You assume, it doesnt say a direction, so it could be anywhere, rather than "it doesn't say an exact direction, so its probably simple, up, down, left, right. Also if you do any line you wont get the same effect. I see the Jewish fish quite clearly, and the christian cross. At the moment I'm pretty far down the bible, reading carefully making sure to be doing it correct. At the point where he creates the two big stars, and once he does there are two crosses on the page. It's not abitory at all. Merged post follows: Consecutive posts mergedat step 26, you get a full star, jewish star, so that's 3 relgious symbols. It also talks about birds and fish in the bible, and once he starts multiplying them he creates more fish symbols in the image. which made me lol cause that alignment is every 26,000 years. Merged post follows: Consecutive posts mergedit ends up looking like the diagram in my cube progression picture. I think the earth is an unborn star. Merged post follows: Consecutive posts merged THINGS TO NOTICE AT THIS POINT: 1. 2. 3. 4. CARRYING ON Any questions?

Are you saying that the needed spark/energy to create a flame with oil would not exist if HUMANS didn't exist? Also, I'm not going to be able to reply to everyone at once, so I'll just place some questions for all of you. You've made predictions that have come correct in the near future; over the space of 10 - 100 years, however long science has been around. Why does that give you the right to believe what will come true in millions of years? And how do you know there aren't certain 'hot spots' of time so to speak, holding events that may occur in the future. For 1, the galactic alignment; this is a huge step, a HUGE point in time; and it was always going to appear. It's not like one day the universe decided to make the galactic alignment possible - it was always going to happen. The earth was always going to align in this way. Does that not make you think that the universe is some kind of time mechinism, with points that designate certain phenominons. I was told that if I was standing on a planet far enough from earth, with a strong enough telescope, I could look back in time. If I could travel at the speed of light to what I was looking at, I could travel back in time. This a scientific fact; that has yet to be proven. Just a solid guess based on the evidence you have at hand. It's fair, I'm not saying it isn't. But before you start making assumptions on things outside of life/humanity, why don't you focus on just that souly. Once you can explain life, then you would move on to what life contains. You made the jump, skipping the most important factors and taking guesses. You could make a more suitable guess if you could explain life/living/existence, however you cant, so what you're guessing can never be 100% correct, and that's with ANYTHING you assume you've proven. No matter if its 99.9999r%, it's still not CORRECT, it's just probably correct according to science. I live by science, and I agree with science. I don't agree with some of sciences rules.

No offesnse intended; however, when someone has an idea that disagrees with science, it's not wrong, it's wrong according to science. So that person shouldn't be treated as dumb/uneducated, because our guess, experiementing on our lifes, equates to different results. I believe personally, that the earth is an unborn star; and I guess that most scientists will dismiss that. How did I come to that conclusion? Well here's my evidence: Elements Resources Gold isn't a resource, I don't see any application; apart from human made application, that gold has on the world. Exactly the same with diamonds or other resources that are said to have worth. Oil is a resource, and what does it do exactly? It burns, to create energy; and we are using it until it dries out. If we didn't use the Oil then it would still be underneath the earth, or spurting out at various locations. Would it be wrong to say that syphoning this Oil, prevents certain 'natural events' from occuring? Water, is the opposite of Oil; not fire - I would say, using personal experiences, that the opposite of fire/heat is cold - not water. Ice would be the 'heat touched' water, and Fire would be the 'heat touched' Oil. So whats to say that over time the water was meant to deplete before the Oil, and then the Oil was meant to ignite, creating a huge explosion/implosion turning the planet into a massive ball of flame/ a.k.a star. That doesn't agree with sceince. Is it a dumb theory?

What I don't get is, how you sit there in complete glibness and assume that only you're opinion is correct. You're making a judgement, on personal preference - remember, you're you; and we're us. If you believe your opinion is correct, then do so; but it doesn't give you the right to ridicule another because you don't except that it could go wrong. You always bring up 'lack of evidence', when all your evidence of time is guesses. "600 million years ago, they were here," "This star is 28 million light years away," All the while you haven't experimented on it. I imagine that if it was close enough to be tested, we would; what exactly would you expect to find? Something contructed differently to every other star? or every other planet? And you think in your minds, yes, there has to be other stuff; still with no evidence. Things take years to study properly when you're close up, and you can mess with it daily; you have had no imput with stars, some planets, even a 'light year'; you've never experienced one, yet it exists. 'Dark matter' 'Antimatter' - both unproven. You have no evidence, to say it exists. You have 'scientific evidence' which 'suggests' it exists. Well I'm sorry sir, you look at life through a human view, as if we're the center of it; rather than the universes perspective. You treat the universe as a host, rather than a organism. Maybe you should look at the universe, from its perspective. Dismissing people who believe otherwise as 'Pseudo', is correct in your eyes; that's how enslaved you are to these rules. Here's something using the Mayan case, imagine 'Maths' being conducted in a different way. Rather than our 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, and so on. We would have 1, 2, 3, 4 - 1, 2, 3, 4, - 1, 2, 3, 4 -. What is there to tell you it's not like that, because you as a human can make a choice to write 5? And carry on as if time was singular. Everything you are living could be wrong; you could just be a pawn to civilization; you're yet to proove claims of this as wrong, but you dismiss it as supid or very unlikely - never 100% evidence, just your view; through your dull, unimaginative, imprisoned, view.

Mayans created the calender using a different mathematic system to us; rather than 1-2-3-4-5~ the Mayans would 1234- 1234-- 1234--- During its later stages it began to show lower amounts, as if it was going back in time. So they could pinpoint the exact time of... 'time', by analysing their own. It makes a lot of sense and I will be studying it quite often over the next few months. I think, on first sight, what it's blatently saying is the core of the earth is 'something' tryiing to escape. It seems that way through image it is showing. Then its construction, and how it had predicted, 'chance', how it knew happenings in the future. It could be a pattern in 'highlights of time, like wars or changes in power. There is always something going on the most in the world, isn't there? Like an amount of energy in one place, there will always be a most and a least? Right? Maybe it was predicting this. Revelations even gives 19 signs of the antichrist, and that seems to be happening now. Merged post follows: Consecutive posts merged I love that picture post with the 'Believers view' and 'Skeptic', because when the Skeptic tells the believer he's wrong, he's using things that aren't proven themselves, as evidence - pretending for it to be evidence. For example, the geomagnetic reversal; how it takes 5,000 years to complete. Thats never happened to us, or at least we weren't around to examine it. There is no evidence there, you're making a prediction, and then saying that prediction is correct, without witnessing it. That's not science, that's guessing and making a suitable judgement based on what you have seen; because you believe life is this one lane thing, where nothing else is possible but the rules of humanity. There is no evidence there; I have just as much right to believe it will, because I would be guessing aswell, and things in life may not be what you believe them to be.

1 First God made heaven & earth 2 The earth was without form and void, and darkness was upon the face of the deep; and the Spirit of God was moving over the face of the waters. 3 And God said, "Let there be light"; and there was light. 4 And God saw that the light was good; and God separated the light from the darkness. 5 taken from: http://www.bibleontheweb.com/Bible.asp Ok, I'm not religious, and I'm not asking you to believe or anything like that. It's just a little thing I found out about the bible. A pattern. Get a pen and paper or just open paint; you could probably just picture it in your head. Begin with "First, God made the heaven the earth." -This, is represented as one diagonal line, because by existing it already cuts whatever its across into 2 halves - and each point of the line, 1 being first and the other point being God. So using font as an example: / then heaven / earth Then " 2 The earth was without form and void, and darkness was upon the face of the deep; and the Spirit of God was moving over the face of the waters." -This is represented by 2 lines and 1 dotted line. It says the earth is without form and void. So draw a line, down from the point of the first line, the god side of that line; and then he notices the darkness on the FACE of the deep, so go connect it to the other side of the first line. Then the spirit of god, going across the waters, which is clearly the heaven side, so here, as it is 'gods image' put a dotted lin. Then "And God said, "Let there be light"; and there was light. " -This is represented by another dotted line, connecting to the god side, Then "And God saw that the light was good; and God separated the light from the darkness. 5" -On this one, go back across the line in the middle, as he is seperating the light from the darkness, Then "God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And there was evening and there was morning, one day." -Here, you go back over the dotted lines, making them full lines, then you evolve those lines representing morning and evening and 1 day. In the fassion you would if you were to make a cube, but only those three corners, as the beginning line takes the 4th, if you want to check out the whole page of genesis, do so; if you follow that pattern, you'll be amazed at what you see. One step after the steps I've shown, creates this: http://img689.imageshack.us/img689/4721/cube1.png It may have been what the book was based on, or how the first people created it. Merged post follows: Consecutive posts mergedalso, please take note that im here to discuss, im not saying this prooves anything. I just thought it was amazing what unfolds, and the times once the obvious images show. Merged post follows: Consecutive posts mergedjust to add, the obvious 'fish' and 'cross' in the picture i linked. both representing the book itself xP. Thoughts people, think I could be onto something 'Philosphical' here? the pic again for reference http://img689.imageshack.us/img689/4721/cube1.png

I'll say, watch the video.

And its wrong to believe something that isn't proven? Has science came up with their own explanation for the pyramids? African religious-folk talk of the 'Promised Land' and 'Zion'. Some of us live in a very confortable world, and have power or better-living over those who aren't so fortunate. The power of money is incredible, but it doesn't account human bravery or courage. It doesn't even merit our survival skills. The power of money can be shown with a pyramid; at the top, is the controller, everything else is what the controller is sharing. Imagine at the top of this imaginary pyramid is the number 100, and in a tree-diagram fashion, smaller numbers spiraling down from it. These numbers all come from the controller and have no real value, apart from relation to the controller. The controller doesn't care for money, as at that point, all the controller recieves is power, the ability to have whatever he/she wants, and control the flow of money. The current debt America is in (13$Tril), is fake. It's from borrowed and stolen resources - where money has been used as an excuse to gain access. If money was never here, life can and in some cases would be just as easy, except people would work to survive, rather than earn money to survive. Money is sin, and it's shown in the equality on this planet. Africa, is in a disastorous state, and are too 'poor' to do anything about it. That 'poor' part should not be there, every child is born equally and should be able to learn propper and survive as any other would. If you disagree with that then you're evil and you have no insight onto what 'life' is. The fourth reich, if it happens, will happen in the next 2 years; so, while you can say it's incorrect now, and I can't proove it is going to happen - I'll just say, "Wait and see." If you guys took one little moment away from your chemical bottles and matirials to take a look at the life you're living, you might look outside of the formula and see what's real, cause to be honest guys, the most important/vital questions are still unanswered.

how so? exactly

It's about conspricy within the governemnt, illuminati and such; where presidents and politicians are described as 'Showbusiness', and are being controlled by a group of bankers. You'll understand if you watch it, it's a nice video.

This thread is populated by two kinds; those angry kids who have no real social life, or a very adequate one - and those who don't think the internet is serious business, my soul is IRL, not on forums and such. Awesome, what a comeback that was, please like this post so I can have some e-rep, hurr derp. You're cancer, end of discussion.

you're not, what do you have 3 of?