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Dear Klaynos [Q1] It is my understanding that we know little to nothing about quark "orbits" inside baryons? You need to read the book; “God Particle” by the Nobel winner Leon Lenderman. In it he describes the quarks orbits as making up the blurred outer shells of the neutrons and protons much like the electron’s orbits make up the blurred outer shell of the atom. [Q2] Are you suggesting that only very very dense objects produce gravity? Yes; And this brings up the question! What comes first? “HIGH-DENSITY-MASS OR GRAVITY” As you can see I say HIGH-DENSITY-MASS comes first! Yes all mass has the same forces, but only mass that has been converted to HIGH-DENSITY-MASS has the real long reaching gravitational fields. [Q3] See my post above, related to phase changes, and pressure I did see your post, and thank you. But you first must have gravity to have the pressure that you are talking about. [Q4] It is my understanding that gravity can be modelled as a force field. (guases law can be applied rather well...) Yes it is modeled as a force field. I am just saying that that force fields is made up of billions of thin polarized & propagated fields per square cm. Alpha-137:)

Dear Klaynos; Magnetocaloric/ or magnetic cooling links; http://www.physorg.com/news64851465.html http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnetic_evaporative_cooling I have a small camping fridge that has no moving parts because it cools with magnetic fields. Alpha-137:)

Dear YT2095, Klaynos, 5614 All of you seam to be into science putty good and you YT2095, on your web site you claim to have a lab. So before you see or make a point you really should read the post very carefully. I say this only because not one of you asked about the experiment that can prove this line of thing. I not only do not say that SR or Einstein is wrong. Just the opposite my work shows that broth Newton and Einstein was broth was on the right track. If you really like science that much then you should go back and take the time to totally read my post, The experiment is very simple, so simple that anyone can do it only uses the two extreme states of Iron that momentarily makes; [ MAN MADE GRAVITATIONAL FIELDS ] Alpha-137

Dear Klynos; The Mind set that I was talking about is the one that the other 172 people that read this other than you, but unlike you just sat there and thought that there is a NUT. At lest you have an open mind enough to list my questions and then you give me your answers to them. First do you agree that both Newton and Einstein was thing along this track? That is gravity is most likely field of flux much like that of electromagnetic fields are, but are most likely in a different pattern. Second do you agree that the Earth, Moon, and most likely our Sun have an Iron core? We have only had the chance to do seismograph here on Earth and the Moon. But there are findings that are leaning to say that our Sun has an Iron also. [Q1] How can these two extreme states of iron coexist in this area of a heavenly body? Your answer was; “What?” Well, here I am talking about the Inner-core and outer-cores of these heavnly bodies that are in two extreme states. The inner core is in a state of being solid Nickel-Iron, Meaning that it must be in a much cooler state than that of the outer-core that is in a much hotter state of molten/or plasma state. Just take time to ask how can the inner-core stay in this much cooler state! Here we must look at NATURE’S best cooling action, and that is magnetic fields. Magnetic fields are NATURE’S most efficient MEANS of dissipating HEAT. Why do you think that we have the ICE-PACKS at the magnetic-poles? [Q2] Why iron as the second layer, and not one the other 27 known heaver elements? Your answer was; Iron is the most stable element. Thus there is more of it. That is a reasonable answer! Now think of my first answer. The second layer/ outer-core of molten/or plasma state of Nickel-Iron is attracted to the inner-core magnetism and its fields has the ability to dissipate the HEAT that is being transferred from the outer-core back to the outer-core. Energy conversion at Nature’s best. [Q3] Does iron’s atomic system have not only the ability to polarize and propagate out magnetic fields of flux in one state, but maybe in a different state also have the ability to polarize and propagate out gravitational fields of flux also? Your answer was! “Iron atom does create a gravitational fields.” That is a very reasonable and educated answer for today! Now stop and really think we are not talking about the atomic-fields that reach out and touch the next atom /or mass. We are talking about fields like the ones of the Moon that reach out and make the tides here on Earth. Yes the are the same atomic-fields that you are talking about, but the area of mass that these fields come from is the outer-core of molten/or plasma that has been converted to High-Density-Mass and have the ability to force to the atomic-fields to polarize and propagate out as gravitational fields. [Q4] If so then what are the forces involved this action within the iron’s atomic system? Your answer was! [?] That was a very fair answer! Because the forces here are not the ones that are thought about very much, actually one of them is not even counted in the four forces; [1] gravity, [2] atomic-weak,[3] atomic-strong, [4] electromagnetic. Yet it is the one force that converts the molten/or plasma into the High-Density-Mass and it is the high speed thermal transfer resistance Between the very hot outer-core and the much cooler inner-core and the inner-core’s magnetic fields sending the heat/ inferred particles back into the outer-core. The actions that are brought about here is that the electron of the molten nickel-iron stripped away making it into a plasma state first, but this resistance is so high that it forces the orbits of the three quarks in the neutron and the three quarks in the proton follow the path of lest resistance and fall into a single orbit. This action now has the proton’s quarks in a single plane orbit with the neutron’s quarks also in a single plane orbit. This action forces the strong force fields of flux to polarize and propagate out as the gravitational fields of force. See, the act of the three quarks being in a single orbit with the neutron and proton stacked on top of each other is what gives us the state of High-Density-Mass doe to the collapse of the three different orbits into a single plane orbit. Reducing the Mass area to 1/137 of its’ original area. Here now can you picture a very small electromagnetic coil that is only as wide as the neutron and proton, actually a littler with each coil simulating each layer of orbits of the quarks that is putting out a very thin magnetic field out past the Moon, then you can visualize a single gravitational field. Actually this unifies the STRONG FORCES AND GRAVITATIONAL FORCES as one force. And shows us that all of the four atomic-forces are actually lines of flux. And that the external Thermal Transfer Resistance is the force that brings the conversion of mass to High-Density-Mass. Answer # 4 here also answered #5&6 Thank you Alpha-137

Newton and Einstein on track together! Man; I can Not believe that not one person out there can even QUESTION or come close to COMPREHANDING that broth Newton and Einstein were on the right track in thing that gravity maybe brought about in the same way [ QUATOM MACHCANICS ] as that of electromagnetism is. Not by the same particle [The Electron.] because it is not the only particle that can spin out a filed of flux. But of course neither Newton nor Einstein had the opportunity to know about the filed spinning six quarks that make the neutron and proton’s outer shells with their fields of flux that can be made to polarize and propagate out as their gravitational of force that they had been looking for. Well, I can only guess that just because they were unable to complete this part of their theories. Then it surly must be a mind set that, “NO ONE CAN!” Especially an amateur nobody! Even with an experiment that will prove it. Well with this MIND SET I guess that I will just move on. Alpha-137

Gravitomagnetism Gravitomagnetism is predicted by Einstein’s general relativity. The question is just what is gravitomagnetism? Let us break it down first. [1] Gravity; A large scale accelerating fields of force that is found in Nature emanating from the core regions of heavenly bodies. [2] Magnetism; A large scale accelerating fields of force that is found in nature emanating from the core regions of heavenly bodies. [3] Broth magnetic & gravitational fields of force have been found to move at © the speed of light. [4] But, just what are these fields made up of that is moving at ©, well for the lack of any other term we will use lines of flux to explain them. Newton’s summing up of the mystery of how and why gravity worked as it did and still holds good today: “That one body may act upon another at a distance through a vacuum without the mediation of anything else , by and through which their action maybe conveyed from one to another , is to me so great an absurdity that , I believe , no man who has in philosophic matters a competent facility of thinking could ever fall into it.” “We can hardly admit that one and the same medium is capable of transmitting two or more actions by wholly different mechanisms, [so] all forces may be regarded as connected more or less intimately with those which we study in electromagnetism.” In short the phenomenon known as action at a distance could be described by math, but it could not be explained. So we now have Newton and Einstein thinking that broth gravity and magnetism are much the same as the electromagnetism’s action. Well let us look at magnetism & electromagnetism and their actions. [ a ] We can see the pattern of the fields of flux of a magnet if we put a magnet under a piece of paper and sprinkle some iron shavings on the paper and iron shavings will line up in the pattern of the magnetic lines of flux that will be basically in a donut shape pattern that goes from pole to pole of the magnet. [ b ] We see the very same pattern in the lines of flux of an electro- magnet in doing this same experiment. But here we are inducing a magnetic field into the iron rod of the electromagnet by the energized coil of conducting wire that is coiled around the iron rod. [ c ] Now if we take the iron core / rod out of the electromagnet and doe the experiment. We will now see the pattern of an electro- magnetic fields of flux that are now in a hollow donut shaped field that man has found out that he can use as an accelerating field of force. So we now have a pattern of an accelerating field of force that may help us understand what to look for in our search for a pattern to a gravitational field of force. Ok, we now have two of the wisest men ever known to mankind Newton and Einstein thinking on same line that gravity and magnetic fields are being produced basically the by the same sub-atomic actions, but are propagated out in different patterns. Einstein’s Cosmic Constant states that gravity should have two poles. Yes Einstein said that gravity should have two poles just like the electromagnetic accelerating fields we just seen in our experiments. But we have never been able to understand how to locate a second pole for Einstein’s Cosmic Constant Gravity. Now all that we need to do is figure out just what particle/ or particles account for producing these fields. We already know that The electron is responsible for spinning out the electromagnetic lines of flux. Along with the fact that electrons have the ability to conduct, that is to move from one atomic-system to another in certain types of atomic-systems. And in certain types of atomic-systems the electron’s produced lines of flux can induce a magnetic field in that atomic-system. Now we will look at these atomic-systems in a larger scale known as mass and this is just what we find as the cores of Earth, Moon, and most likely our sun. This mass is know as iron and here this iron is found in two extreme states, the inner cores are iron in a solid state and the outer cores are iron in a molten/ or plasma state. We now have the two extreme states of iron in the location where we suspect the gravitational fields are produced. Questions [Q1] How can these two extreme states of iron coexist in this area of a heavenly body? [Q2] Why iron as the second layer, and not one the other 27 known heaver elements? [Q3] Does iron’s atomic system have not only the ability to polarize and propagate out magnetic fields of flux in one state, but maybe in a different state also have the ability to polarize and propagate out gravitational fields of flux also? [Q4] If so then what are the forces involved this action within the iron’s atomic system? [Q5] Or is there an outside force at work here that brings on these actions? [Q6] Is the final action the converting of the outer core area of molten/ plasma state of iron into a state of High-Density-Mass where as to force the strong forces of the iron’s atomic-system to polarize and propagate out as gravitational fields of flux. And like magnetic fields of forces the gravitational fields of force also have two poles where all of the same poles face the inner core and all of the same face into space. So we have a core-pole and a space-pole to gravity now, just as Einstein’s Cosmic Constant states it should have. Alpha-137:)

I would say that the fast expansion of the H²O or moisture [ non visable steam, would be better said.]in the hamburger is escaping out from under the hamburger and is pushing the oil away. Alpha-137

The only chaos in the physics of Nature is when we do not understand all of Nature’s forces a work at that given time. Alpha-137:)

I would say that the fast expansion of the H²O or moisture [or other gasses]in the hamburger is escaping out from under the hamburger and is pushing the oil away. Alpha-137:)

Try this experiment! This is an example of Mass in its height’s energy levels, [in the act of burning / or changing mass into Heat & Light energy.] [A picture of the candle goes here.] The flame of this candle is an area of high energy and in this state that area has the ability to accelerate sound waves [Vibrations of air molecules.] As this wave of air molecules hits one side of the flame some of the air molecules are used as fuel in the flame but enough are heat expanded [Put in a higher energy state.] and accelerated [ Accelerated mass has more force.] through the High Energy Area to slam into the air on the other side at an Higher Energy Level and an accelerated force, thus amplifying the sound wave. Alpha-137:)

I would say that the taping set up a vibration / shockwave that travels through the oil much better than the wooden mach or butane lighter. Much the same as sonar waves through water, and are a little amplified as it gets to the heated up oil at the tip the same as the sonar waves are a little amplified in warmer thermal layers of water. Alpha-137:)

Tycho????????????? Hypothetical According to Microsoft Word It is just what I wanted to say. Theortical; Imaginary; Supposed; Antonym ( real) Alpha-137

Yes, again: insane_alien; No particle can move at c². Can’t you understand that this posting is all hypocritical, Because man will never be able to totally use all of the energy in mass at E=mc² and it all started back in the mid-60’s with a dum question of, if we could. And this answer was the to put the fear of God into some very green men that was about to go out in a nuclear sub for their first time. PS: insane_alien the men was not really the color green. Alphy-137:)

Yes, you are right that there is NO physical meaning to these calculations and there was never meant to be any. This was in reply to a question of, if we ever did make a bomb to equal the total energy of E=mc². He was very big on everyone asking questions for there was NO dum questions when it comes to safety with anything to do with nuclear power. This was just one way to put the fear of God in all of us. And yes there would be documentation of this because any time that he even sat in on a class more or less one that he spoke at one he was filmed and I am sure that it is in the archives. Yes, insane_alien; No particle can move at c². Alpha-137:)

OK; People if we were able to build a bomb to equal E=mc² To make it as simple as I can we will look at just one particle’s action at first. This particle will travel at c² = 8.987551787^16 meters per sec. Convert this to feet per sec. = 2.948671846^17 feet per sec. Convert this to miles per sec. = 5.584605769^13 miles per sec. Remember that is just one particle going in one direction. So this 5.584605769^13 miles = the radius of all of the bomb’s original particles actions. So this 5.584605769^13 miles x 2 =1.116921154^14 miles in diameter of the original mass particles. Now multiply 1.116921154^14 miles in diameter by millions of times for the chain-reactions that will come about due to all of the nuclear mass that is here on Earth both man made and natural along with the other planets within this area. Basically a new star would be made. Just a part of a mini-lecture by Admiral Rickover to the crew of SSBN-598 USS Gorge Washington in the mid-60’s PS: Tycho? At no time did I say that we use 100% of any mass energy. I have only been trying to show just the reverse. Alph-137:)

Neutron-diffraction --- That shook-up some old-gray-matter Sorry that got by me. Just to fast on the draw, and not thinking. Alpha-137

[1] If there is (NO) interaction------ ?????????? they will pass right through each other, because they will act like waves; (1) Where & when have you ever see or read of a neutron detected as a wave? [2] but there is a magnetic one [ isn’t that a interaction?] [3] and they can also interact via the weak nuclear force (2 & 3) Noblest Steven Weinberg showed us that the electromagnet and the nuclear-weak force is the one and same. Alpha-137:)

You are right it could only happen in an matter + antimatter reaction, I was just trying to show that we have not gotten even close to the total energy in mass, and we surly do not want too. Alpha-137:)

5614 & insane_alien The Mk I or Little Boy only did lest than 1/10 of it’s’ ability at that time, but today’s can do about 87% of their ability. But even so today’s 50megiton bombs only uses lest than a very small fraction of 1% of E=mc² total energy. It was first pointed out to me in a mini lecture by Nobel winner Dr. Leon Lederman and also in his book “The God Particle” about midway in the book. Alpha-137

mimefan599 & insane_alien Have you ever sat in weapons class and had to work out the radius of ground zero of each of the ten warheads of a Polaris Missile. Well, I will assure you that none of them will equal the total energy that E=mc² says that there is in mass. If we did ever make a bomb with that matched the total power of E=mc² it would vaporize roughly 19% of our Solar-system. Aphla-137

No; I did not assume anything! I just put the question out after reading the article on http://www.space.com that I gave in my posting. I was sure to what answers I would get in reply, and I was right. I know that E=mc² is right. I just wanted to see what others would say. Thank you for replying. Alpha-137

A math paradox Are these math equations really the same? F=ma & E=mc² If so © is a set rate of acceleration! Then why is © squired since Einstein him self said that nothing can accelerate faster than ©? Wouldn’t that also go for all particles in a nuclear explosion? http://www.space.com/reference/brit/...r/climate.html If you drop the (c²) and just have © then you can get very close the real speed / force of the particles moving out from a nuclear explosion. At (E=mc) with a mass of (4³in. of u-234) you will get a total change reaction /or evaporation area at ground zero of roughly a 5 mile radius. So is (E=mc) the same as (F=ma) just at the quantum level. Alpha-137:-)