Incendia

Cypress...It is irrelevant...You have wasted several pages of this topic with this irrelevant discussion. Stop discussing it further. It is neither relevant to the topic or evolution. Make a new topic if you wish to discuss info' entropy further.

If it is irrelevant why is it being discussed? Does not compute.

Bump...Please answer my questions...

...*facepalm*...The scientific definition is in the dictionary...[i have 3 dictionaries here, and there are several free ones online. Most have the scientific one in the...At least all the ones I went on had it.]

Theory of everything would predict and explain literally everything. It would tell us what happen 2000 years ago as long as we had the right information to put into the equations. Photons are Russian dolls? Sounds crazy... The smallest particle would be split into energy...technically photons are energy as light is energy and photons make up light. This universe being a photon for another sounds like nonsense. The only way to prove it would be to split the quark. If that doesn't split into light we would have to split whatever does come out. And split than if that isn't light...except we can't do this for the following reason: 1. Huge electric bill. 2. Other huge costs. 3. This means it may cost billions. 4. Government...it likes to cut things...like funding. 5. The energies may be un-attainable on Earth.

Yes but photons do not emit photons. That is why we cannot see them. They also travel to quickly. Even if you beamed them into your eyes to let them activate a receptor your brain would just tell you there is a dot. That dot wouldn't be exciting and probably indistinguishable from laser light's. It would probably also damage your eyesight.

Did anyone read my post? Intelligence is Irrelevant. The dictionary's definition of animal is the only definition of animal. Religion's views are irrelevant. Personal views are irrelevant. Intelligence is irrelevant. The dictionary has the only right answer.

What's info' entropy...

How does it break those laws?

Looks like it would be feasible...then again maybe there is a problem I haven't seen. All it doesn't do anything crazy...looks quite simple actually. Helium convection causes turbine to spin which makes a motor/dynamo work causing the production of usable electricity. Doesn't require much intelligence to analyse...perhaps you should look at your first link again...the diagram is actually quite simple to follow.

So you are saying that every particle can be ultimately split over and over again until we end up splitting a particle into photons? [Are you saying everything is made of photons?] And that particle spin is what generates the forces? Sounds interesting...Could use more/better explanation.

I do not see how religion is relevant... The dictionary gives us the meaning of words. Just because religion has its own personal definitions of what animal means does not change its actual meaning. Therefore you argument is both redundant and irrelevant. Nice try but humans are animals... Yes cypress...dualism is also irrelevant...

At michel123456: It does not mean they are they same...the Earth has a magnetic field...doesn't mean it is made of a magnetic field...same applies to a gravitational field. ...i'm not buying a book...I have little/no money...

Why is the mind becoming the subject here? I already proved we are animals...

Are you sure...There are apes and monkeys that look at sticks and also see tools. Domestic cats play with toys and so do pet dogs. Higher intelligence does not separate us from animals. Definition of animal [taken from 5 separate dictionaries]: -a living organism characterized by voluntary movement. Yep humans are those. -Animals are a major group of mostly multicellular, eukaryotic organisms of the kingdom Animalia or Metazoa. Yep humans are those. -Any of the multicellular organisms belonging to the kingdom Animalia. All animals are eukaryotes, with each of their cells having a nucleus containing DNA. Most animals develop from a blastula and have a digestive tract, nervous system, the ability to move voluntarily, and specialized sensory organs for recognizing and responding to stimuli in the environment. Animals are heterotrophs, feeding on plants, other animals, or organic matter. The first animals probably evolved from protists and appeared during the Precambrian Era. Yep humans are those - A multicellular organism of the kingdom Animalia, differing from plants in certain typical characteristics such as capacity for locomotion, nonphotosynthetic metabolism, pronounced response to stimuli, restricted growth, and fixed bodily structure. Yep humans are those. -any living organism characterized by voluntary movement, the possession of cells with noncellulose cell walls and specialized sense organs enabling rapid response to stimuli, and the ingestion of complex organic substances such as plants and other animals. And yes...humans are those too.

Yes we can look at energy...Just go look at a tesla coil or plasma ball. Electricity is energy and we see it as lightening. We can see anything that reflects light. So we will never see photons as photons are light and do not give any off nor do they reflect any. Looking down any microscope that could let you see things the size of photons would just be beaming photons into your eyes. In other words you may aswell just aim a torch at your eyes. And the technology isn't new. We have had these microscopes for years...and stronger ones. How do you think they show you pictures of cells themselves? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electron_microscope http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9057521/World_s_most_powerful_microscope_gives_3_D_look_at_atomic_structures

...I thought sentience and advanced technology was enough to show we are the more intelligent ones...

I feel as if I should be insulted... Well...As I understand: Mass causes space-time curvature. Without mass there would be nothing to curve space-time and it would be uniform. What you are saying is that the gravity was already concentrated where all the stars and planets [etc.] would be. That must mean that the movement of things in space is actually the motion of these curves in space-time and the mass inside is simply just stuck there and pulled along. And wait wut...space-time never exists without the presence of mass/energy. Are you suggesting they create space-time? How did you reach such a conclusion. Space-time supposedly fills the entire universe.

I was talking about Insane_Alien's post. Not yours...yours still doesn't sound right...

Where is your speculation?

lemur...what you are saying sounds wrong... What he said is still wrong: Mass is a property of matter equal to the measure of an object's resistance to changes in either the speed or direction of its motion. The mass of an object is not dependent on gravity and therefore is different from but proportional to its weight. Not something that curves space-time.

1. There is no spirit... 2. There is no soul... You forget humans are more intelligent than other animals. We have the largest brain relative to our body. Comparing a human intelligence with the intelligence of all animals is foolish. We all know we are more intelligent than jelly fish. [They don't even have brains...]

So the meaning of mass is something that curves space-time...that doesn't sound right...I'm quite sure that [and wikipedia backs me up] that mass=weight. Maybe I am...perhaps how is the right word...maybe it isn't though...I think I would like both answers...

My question is not why space-time is curved but why mass causes such curvature...

Lots of responses... Some telling me that there is no need for a why...Sounds relevant to me but you're the physicists here... Others asking me what I mean by why and some answering the question... I'm pretty sure I was looking for a why that would involve new equations... [Think of it this way: Looking for this why will tell you whether mass really does cause space-time curvature. If it does then yay...more evidence for Einstein...If the conclusions don't match then either the conclusion of why is wrong or mass doesn't curve space-time and we need to re-think things. Therefore- even if this isn't physics...the answer will affect physics...so you should be trying to answer it anyway. Are you interested now?] I just want to ask something...where do gravitons fit in this whole general relativity thing? michel123456: That answer isn't really an answer. Yes gravity is [according to current understanding] caused by space-time curvature....meaning they are the same thing. The reason they are the same is because space-time curvature = gravity. And Mass causes Space-time curvature...my question is why mass causes space-time curvature. ajb: I don't understand... Mr Skeptic: Interesting idea...Doesn't sound correct to me though.