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It is not simply ignorances that makes her accuse the United States government of killing thousands, reshaping the skyline of its major cities and almost taking out the US capital. We are talking about a certain mindset which is dangerous and should be condemned, not censored, when encountered.

I was so disappointed in The 300. That could have been a great movie if they had given it a treatment like Saving Private Ryan, Letters from Iwo Jimo, Apollo 13 and other historically based shows which attempt to be truthful to the gist of the subject matter. In any event, I would think 9/11 conspiracy theories would be particularly taboo in a science board about politics. Not only was she harming America by spreading such lies (which can then be spread throughout the mid-east) but she is an idiot because she thinks she's a scientist when she is not. She's gone from The View but she'll be back. It's become taboo to question patriotism but I do question hers when she spreads such a harmful lie that can be picked up elsewhere.

First, I wouldn't march. I would try to call 911 and/or set off an alarm IF I could. It depends on the situation. The first house I bought was configured so that we were all downstairs and I could likely attempt gather my family into one room, train the muzzle of the shotgun at the door and wait for the guy to make a move. My current house has the kids upstairs. Where do I hear the sound? If it is upstairs with the kids, I might act very different than if it is in my kitchen. From that point, I could train a shotgun to keep him from getting upstairs while my wife made the call and set off our alarm. There are an infinite other possible ways this may play out but its MY FAMILY and you have no right to tell me the best way to defend MY home. Nor do the police. Statistically, this might be the best bet in many cases but, again, I'll defer to the choice of the individual involved in an impossible situation. Does he sense the perp is on crank? Has there been a history of progressive incidents to indicate someone is targetting them? There are a number of facters which might go into whether I act this way or take other actions. These options are not mutually exclusive. For example, You could combine 1 and 3. Set off the alarm and use your gun to wait for the perp to show himself. I would rather not embarrass myself because the police know that there are an infinite number of ways something like this can go down.

John, the IRA example was brought up as a counterexample to my example of how the Jews in the Warsaw ghetto put up a good fight with fascism. I agree it is largely irrelevent.

Temporarily.

All talking heads villify the opposition but a 9/11 conspiracy theory is in a class by itself. It feeds into a common perception held in many countries and I do question the patriotism or intelligence of anyone who spouts this drivil without first looking at the evidence.

What talking head doesn't spout 9/11 nutcase conspiracy theories? About all of them except Rosie.

Exactly, which makes my point.

I see this as a form of close minded bigotry. How many of our Eurpoean friends ever see that picture, I wonder.

We are happy to have you here but you'll just have to deal with our laws. Maybe Pangloss' "stop snitching" thread illustrates other dynamics in play. I heard one talking head say on CNN that in some neighborhoods the "clear" rate on homicides is in single didgets in many of these neighborhoods where cooperation with police is minimal. A mere assertion, nothing more. Nice bumper sticker slogan but not much else.

And Rosie had a couple of great reasons for being fired, not the least of which was spouting 9/11 nutcase conspiracy theories. Because you're an addict?

My silence was not meant as consent. I preferred to focus on the more serious statements.

Trump said she was fired. You may be right that this isn't what happened "exactly" yet I think she was pointed in the general direction of the door.

To the contrary, the gist of Sharpton's comment was that Imus was canned for saying ho and that it was time to take rappers on for using words like B**** and ho.

Next question: Did the canning (or caning) of Imus, influence Rosie's departure? Trump says she was fired.

One question that vexes me is why so many not from America care so deeply about our internal gun laws? Don't get me wrong; I want all POVs and want to hear from everyone. There is almost an emotional tone to the debate, however, which makes me think that some think our guns laws prove something about America's "high testosterone" national character. Is that too much of a leap?

There are many ways in our system of government to oppose an oppressive government. 99.999% of the protection comes for separation of powers, checks and balances and all of that basic stuff. However, if worse ever came to worse, as it did for the Jews in the Warsaw Ghetto, guns are a check. You ignore the demonstrable fact that even with a few guns but with brains and guts, the Jews held off the Germans for far longer than anyone would have thought. If they had been armed, the result would have been the same, but far more costly to the Germans. In fact, I wonder what would have happened had the Jewish population of Europe been generally armed during the holocaust. I know one thing: Hitler's first step would have been to make gun ownership for Jews a crime. Sure but imagine how much worse it would have been if guns had been more commonly available. Also, I'm not talking about a terrorist sect in a country but the use by guns as a basis for mass resistance. All the weapons they needed? That's quite an assumption. It sure didn't work that way for the Jews of Warsaw. Strawman: No one argued for free availability of guns. I'm all for background checks.

The sickening part of this is the commercialization of an obviously unhealthy and downright frightening trend; I am not for censorship but I would like Congress to haul those responsible to capital hill for a "Big tobacco" type lineup. Will the Dems have the nerve, or the desire to shift from Bush bashing, to take this issue head on while they still can?

Thank you Pangloss for brining this to my attention; this "movement's" implications are absolutely chilling

What could a lightly armed citizenry possibly do against a superior force complete with modern armor? Now, imagine the result if even 1 in 3 families had light arms;

This will be true in America for years to come (period on my laptop, is still not working); Criminals will assume that lawabiding citizens are now defenseless but it will take years before it even becomes difficult for them to find guns; The recent case is a bit different; here we have a guy who is not really connected to the criminal element in our society going to a gun store for a gun and, regretablly, getting one despite the history of mental illness; he shouldn't have gotten a gun as it was but I don't think you are going to keep one away from an intent killer for a long long long long LONG long time

Did you see Anderson Cooper last night? They discussed the Busta Rymes case: Take the case of Busta Rhymes. The man's faithful employee is gunned down and he won't even talk to the police. Cooper had on Al Sharpton and the partner of the slain bodyguard (and mother of his child). For once I agreed with Sharpton who condemned the practice and is planning protests. The girlfriend was especially puzzled. She said that Busta loved her partner and, in fact, there is a homage to him at the end of one of Busta's songs. Yet, he's not talked to police. Sharpton actually referenced the Imus affair which shows that some good may come from the Imus afair.

Nope. I'm unelectable by either party.

You have encapsulated my frustrations as well. You have china and russia thrwarting a solution to genocide in Darfur so they can cozy up to oil-rich Sudan and we are the bad guys?? NPR had an episode a few days ago about forced abortions in China yet it makes a blip on the radar while Gitmo is all anyone can see. I agree that we should hold ourselves to a higher standard but I don't give the rest of the world the right to be hypocrits. I really wish we could safely disengage from a world gone mad but that's not possible.

I thought you supported the Afghan and Gulf War I actions?