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Various Ways To Terraform Titan
doberman211 replied to doberman211's topic in Astronomy and Cosmology
Solid land and a stable atmosphere, it makes people feel safe to be on solid ground even if its a floating city. Starships are purely for travel, commerce, exploration and war at this point. We're no utopia. Why? Because utopia is lame. I also don't want to rip off ringworld or as most people nowadays know it as "Halo" -.- I'm already pushing it i think with Stargates and ZAP (warp) drives. You're fooling yourself if you think humans are the smartest species in the galaxy. hell we couldn't even get ion cannons right. Not a problem since the enemies shields only stopped energy and projectile/missile tech was effective. We've so far in the series as far as i've planned started venus but the sun went red giant so that was a loss, another dozen earth-like worlds with very little needing to change, as in it is too cold we heat it or if it is too small we inject it with "neutron matter". neutron star material we buy off the smart aliens who know how to mine it. -
Various Ways To Terraform Titan
doberman211 replied to doberman211's topic in Astronomy and Cosmology
um... mars has since become an overpopulated metropolis of 4 billion and counting an we're running out of room. sun turned into red giant as i mentioned and earth was destroyed and its 7 billion people evacuated to other star systems. this is the time where we've already reached star wars tech. Mars itself had to be teleported away with a planet sized stargate. We really needed to make a name for ourselves in the galactic community. we're the terraformers by trait if you will. it isnt a question of if to terraform it its how to terraform it. -
Various Ways To Terraform Titan
doberman211 replied to doberman211's topic in Astronomy and Cosmology
Well i surely don't know, but the stars in the ships are only 2 meters diameter they're not "stars" they just look like them. I was planning on having a greenhouse effect. The ships i am using jump to their destinations similar to the way star trek ships do, but the effect is much cooler with some green static discharging across the hull and such. they move slowly because they do not move in sublight to their destinations. they can get from the asteroid belt to saturn in one night's sleep. think scifi. they never just pull on the throttle and step on the gas. there is always a hyperspace-like thing involved in this case it involves warping space as well as using stabilized wormholes "stargates" to travel the ultra vast distances between the stars. the speed of the ship in this sense is meaningless as well as the ministar. i just felt like mentioning them. Okay i have 2 classes of hyperspaces humans use: the fast one at about getting from here to the galactic core in 2 weeks as well as the cheaper and slower model traveling at under lightspead for commercial travel. they get from asteroid belt to saturn in a night's sleep. you calculate the rest. im just the author. Burning unburning, sheesh, so much work. im out of my league on this one. ill just sit back and watch what you guys come up with. On a sidenote, does anyone know the actual feel of gravity you would be feeling? Titan has a high atmospheric pressure but relatively no gravity. so how many Gs so to speak would you really be feeling? and did wiki get it right that you could get a wing suit and fly around or is that nonsense? (yeah i get it its too cold but theoretically) -
Various Ways To Terraform Titan
doberman211 replied to doberman211's topic in Astronomy and Cosmology
Oxygen in the subsurface slush? There are theories about liquid water under the surface but its more of a slush in my series. The Mercury Mine is just a source of trade income with the other races in the galaxy as well as materials for ships. The ships in this series run about as fast as any scifi ship out there and the more massive the slower. And the shuttle is meant to ferry people and equipment at supersonic speeds. The ships i have are meant to be battleships so yes they are slower. About 80 meters a second for the largest ship. I won't get into all the tech stuff in the series but we can do these things by year 2200 or up. i havent actually made a timeline yet. Another thing important i should have mentioned as part of my series, but i wanted to keep it theoretical, but the antagonist race in the series had "jumped" a red dwarf into the sun and caused it to go red giant. Although i can't be sure how realistic that would be, the habitable zone's inner limit is just beyond that of the asteroid belt by the time i wanted to have them terraform Titan. I know i sort of confused everyone with the timeline but i haven't actually planned a timeline for when titan gets terraformed. Though we have gotten past the gravity with a genetic alteration causing 2 types of humans, Terrans and Titanians. Either way, all i want is input on how to terraform it the most scientifically valid way within the span of 20-30 years at most. I did not know the methane wouldn't ignite but now that i think about it oxygen burns so it makes sense. so at first i would need to remove oxygen from the solid ice rocks first i bet. After that, asteroid seems like bad plan because of dust but really both objects are mostly ice and how much dust would there really be? -
Various Ways To Terraform Titan
doberman211 replied to doberman211's topic in Astronomy and Cosmology
Oxygen in the subsurface slush? There are theories about liquid water under the surface but its more of a slush in my series. The Mercury Mine is just a source of trade income with the other races in the galaxy as well as materials for ships. The ships in this series run about as fast as any scifi ship out there and the more massive the slower. And the shuttle is meant to ferry people and equipment at supersonic speeds. The ships i have are meant to be battleships so yes they are slower. About 80 meters a second for the largest ship. I won't get into all the tech stuff in the series but we can do these things by year 2200 or up. i havent actually made a timeline yet. Another thing important i should have mentionned as part of my series, but i wanted to keep it theoretical, but the antagonist race in the series had "jumped" a red dwarf into the sun and caused it to go red giant. Although i can't be sure how realistic that would be, the habitable zone's inner limit is just beyond that of the asteroid belt by the time i wanted to have them terraform Titan. I know i sort of confused everyone with the timeline but i haven't actually planned a timeline for when titan gets terraformed. Though we have gotten past the gravity with a genetic alteration causing 2 types of humans, Terrans and Titanians. Either way, all i want is input on how to terraform it the most scientifically valid way within the span of 20-30 years at most. I did not know the methane wouldn't ignite but now that i think about it oxygen burns so it makes sense. so at first i would need to remove oxygen from the solid ice rocks first i bet. After that, asteroid seems like bad plan because of dust but really both objects are mostly ice and how much dust would there really be? -
Various Ways To Terraform Titan
doberman211 replied to doberman211's topic in Astronomy and Cosmology
Um...well yeah we have sort of fusion reactors but it's more of a miniature star. it's what powers the ships. well actually what powers them is a "white mini dwarf" so to speak. it's more stable. but methane is volatile so smashing an asteroid into a sea of it sounds like a hell of a faster way to make heat than mirrors. in terms of cheap we have a mine on Mercury after an asteroid of almost pure titanium smashed into it in the meantime spewing up molten iron onto the surface. one million dollars has become what ten thousand is now. -
Various Ways To Terraform Titan
doberman211 replied to doberman211's topic in Astronomy and Cosmology
Yes that could work but the plan is to do it fast within the span of 15 years. This is a time when we have a little cosmic help if you know what i mean. we can easily fling an asteroid at Titan but giant mirrors would be a little too costly but a simple tug from a battleship was much easier. But theoretically heating it that way may work if it was Mars but being 9AU away i would suspect the sunlight from that distance to be of minimal effect. Perhaps if Jupiter were turned into a star as in 2010 odyssey 2 but that has not happened in my series. Either way mirrors i do not see as a good idea for Titan. Another idea i had was to move it closer in the solar system such as place it in between the orbits of Earth and Mars but the energy and mass needed to tug that away... well it's just an idea. -
In this topic, I wish to discuss the many ways to potentially terraform Titan. I am pretty sure that this has been done, but two topics are better than one, are they not? And it will help me with a science fiction series I am writing. I wish to use the most scientifically accurate way to terraform Titan. Mars has already been done in this series but the human population has reached 15 billion at this point and we have already begun living under Europa's ice sheet. Please note I am only 15 at the moment but I do have an exceptional knowledge of astronomy and astrophysics compared to most people. I understand the basic concept of gravity and atmospheric pressure and so on. My first thought was the method in which to use to heat up the planet/moon. (Note that i will be using the term planet for Titan often as the definition has changed in my series to any object with a radius over 1500km.) One idea I had was to launch a small moon such as Hyperion into Titan to cause an explosion with enough heat to ignite one liquid methane "ocean" preferably Ligeia Mare and cause a greenhouse effect enough to have a chain reaction with the other lakes and so on eventually heating the planet above or near 0 Celsius, enough to melt the rock-solid water and create a water world. I am aware of the fact that it would be far more effective and practical to use the methane as fuel, though we have since moved on from such methods of fuel.
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So quick question, what is the atmospheric pressure to G ratio? how much KPa would one need to get to 1 G? And can one simply add the answer to say titan's .14G? I am attempting to calculate just how much Earthlike Titan is.