Phi for All

Without scientific investigation we all go back to nomadic hunter / gatherers (can't farm or raise livestock since that takes too much observation and science). Is that what you're saying? That the Earth would be better off without science?

I think your terms are too ambiguous to provide you with any meaningful answer. "... the furtherment of man in the context of good and preservation in the longterm"? If I develop a bomb that protects the people of my country by destroying yours is that good? I would be preserving the long-term goals of *my* culture even though it might be a little hard on yours. Whose POV are we considering here? Most scientific advancement has yielded knowledge with the potential to be both weapon and shield, bomb and balm, destroyer and preserver. I think you are asking for a definitive, objective answer to too many subjective questions. Or you could look at it this way: Science hasn't destroyed us all yet and it's saved the lives of many who would have died 250 years ago. If we continue on this path we will most certainly reap more benefit than destruction.

Both, but science doesn't care about what people do with what they learn. Science provides the mechanism for learning, not a road map for what do do with the knowledge.

This is exactly what about me mates and I were laughing out loud speakers of the house of the rising temperatures in the north by northwest passage denied.

I choose to believe that consciousness lives on after this body is dead. Beyond that I prefer not to set too much else in stone. But it does give me a pretty strong reason to rule out suicide as an option. If consciousness continues it means I have more to learn in this form and I can be immensely patient about that.

Suicide is considered a form of murder by many religions. In some you give up your shot at an afterlife if you kill yourself. You can't be forgiven until you commit the sin, and then you're dead and can't ask for forgiveness. Perhaps they feel it's best to be patient when dealing with eternity?

Merry Christmas all! What a friend you are, Jesus (I want a pony)!

Dies Natalis Invicti Solis is near! Why is it so dark?

Know what's good for you when you're feeling sad? Haiku.

He hasn't been in lately, has he? AnemicPsyche will find his next registration time a bit more protracted than chemkid did. The days when bascule isn't on.

We screen for cranks. One more reason why SFN is worth waiting for.

I'll tell you later.

Stupid thread closed.

Discussion closed while Fred56 takes a break and ponders if he's in the right place.

Religious discussion closed.

I appreciate the input. I ordered my laptop and I should get it early next week. It will have XP Pro loaded. I'll wait for a few SPs to come out before investing in Vista. I'll also have a blast running XP on a machine capable of running Vista. Dual core, 7200RPM *and* 2G of RAM?! Wheeeeeee!

Never start a thread in GD entitled "Party time !" unless you're willing to put up with random anatomically improbable suggestions.

Nice try, geekboy, but we're talking about dancing here. Don't forget to include all the forces at work. Many geeks have those Flying Nun-type ears, too. Throw off the drag coefficient with pens and you're talking some serious rug burn, at the very least.

No!! I mean, where would we keep our pens? Anyone with a solution for THAT is just too geeky for me!

Nice. Put your clothes back on. Me either. Put your clothes back on.

Gratzamundo, my friend! Well done and all that! What's *in* that tea? Idiots don't get grades like you, son. You have my permission to dance around proudly like the geek you are.

BUMP! My new company told me to get a good laptop and I noticed you can't get cash 'n carry from the traditional outlets like BestBuy or CircuitCity *without* getting Vista as the OS. My company asked me NOT to get a computer with Vista as they'd all had bad experiences. What's the latest word amongst the members here?

DragonballZ is much faster paced, from what I've heard. None of this "soon" garbage.

Welcome. You've had two replies and I failed to find anything amateurish about either of them. Type V construction (wood-framed) is very common in the US and many people incorrectly assume wood is used extensively elsewhere as well. You also failed to make any distinction between building with wood (or "sticks" like 2x4s) and wood fiber materials (which are completely different). This would be a great distinction for you to make. Calling the replies amateurish simply because they don't seem to agree with you is and ad hominem logical fallacy. I would suggest that you address the questions posed by detractors rather than trying to undermine their credibility by calling them amateurs. In many places wood is extremely expensive (Japan loves wood but doesn't really have the land to renew what they use). Many places also have climates where wood is impractical to use.

Both threads you've opened lead us to a blog. This leads us to the conclusion that you have a vested interest there and advertising is inconsistent with our purpose. Please feel free to stay and discuss but please refrain from leading the membership elsewhere. We are not a marketing device.