Phi for All

I'm definitely not an expert, but I would imagine acoustic signatures of organic origins are quite different and distinguishable from inorganic sources. I know a good sonar operator has an amazing capability for making such distinctions, and can tell the difference in classes of submarines by the varying sounds of their propellers underwater and even when one has flooded a torpedo tube prior to discharge. Oscilloscope signal characteristics from fifty years of underwater listening documentation have probably produced a set of analysis standards that allow experts to say with confidence that "bloop" is definitely organic in origin.

Remeber that this "bloop" was detected by a SOSUS array, very sophisticated and extremely well tested. Underwater acoustics have been monitored by the US Navy since the early part of the Cold War. We've had decades to catalog sounds and ty to figure out exactly what made them. Beleive me, these guys know the difference between a pocket of methane and an architeuthis fart.

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Well, it's over with and you should take extra care next time about washing up before eating. Rehydrate yourself and be glad you're young. Salmonellosis can kill older folks. I recommend you thoroughly clean your trainers. For your carpet, do you have OxiClean for clothes-washing in the UK? I mix the powder in water and put it in a sprayer for carpet stains. Start out with a very light spray (small amount, DON'T soak it), let it penetrate for a few minutes and BLOT with a cloth you can dispose of. Too much OxiClean will bleach out the carpet so start with a little and then wait till it dries before using more. Either use gloves or wash well afterwards. For added peace of mind use a disinfectant spray on the areas. Then go have a bacon and brie on ciabatta (put some red onions on this time; that'll probably kill any bacteria ).

Did your entire house go on the walk? Did your entire house have bacon and brie on ciabatta (that does sound tasty). You gave us a little too much info about the illness and not enough about the contamination. Salmonellosis can develop in 12 hours and can last untreated for 7 days, and it's symptoms include diarrhea, fever, and abdominal cramps. You could have picked it up from stepping in fecal matter or it could have been introduced into your sandwich by a sloppy and pretentious deli staffer.

This forum doesn't publish how to make explosives. Too many people might get hurt and it is our policy to avoid helping them do that. Don't ask again.

Quantum indeterminacy problem. Dave calculated how fast the server was actually going and then for two days we had no idea where it was.

Never kiss anyone who can lick their own butt. You can't myth with that philothophy.

That's because CAD is drawn 1:1 ratio in model space, while what you see on a blueprint is just a snapshot of the model in paper space at a certain scale and perspective and printed in 2D. Many engineers and architects still print CAD files to check them over. Many use the computer for everything. It just depends where you are on the ladder how much exposure you get to blueprints. jordan, as has been stated before, getting files on planes is going to be tough unless they are really old. Design is very much an intellectual property issue, and in certain circumstances a security issue as well.

At one point I held out great hope for this thread. Enough has been said and the arguments are beginning to repeat, which wastes everyone's time. Move along, nothing to see here.

I'll say this again, a little louder: MY MOUTH HAS NO ROOM FOR YOUR WORDS. Stop trying to interpret what I'm really saying because what I'm really saying is very carefully formulated and typed out in previous posts. This is not IRC chat or a pub debate over beers. I am actually thinking as I type. You're back to ranting and hand-waving and the decibel level is deafening you and others as to what is being said on both sides. We're back to the entire scientific community again?!? What happened to: You're joking with us now, right? No progress except fission? In the last 100 years?! Oh, believe you me, "us folks" will get right on that. Because ALL politicians are corrupt, and gedankenexperiments are the ONLY solution, and I'm sure you've factored in every possible thing that is currently being done (or not done) before you joined us to point out the scientific community's flaws. Thanks goodness someone cares about what's happening (I mean, besides National Geographic, NASA, the governments and corporations who make the satellite images available, the scientists who evaluate the information, and, you know, a host of others). Everyone shares your concerns. Seriously, do you think you're the only person who wants a future? I realize things can't happen soon enough for you but I also wonder if things would EVER happen soon enough to suit you. As I mentioned before, if change happens too fast it catches us by surprise and that's a bad thing, ALWAYS.

I know it seems like we're behind in many areas but trust me, the last thing in the world you really want is to have something startling happen almost overnight. It's a romantic fantasy to suddenly stumble on the key to cold fusion or a simple cure for cancer, but economies and infrastructures need time to coordinate and adjust, and we are in the middle of that process right now (and indeed, all the time). When it doesn't happen this way, you get violent errors and unstable policies that don't do anyone any good. What if a cure for cancer suddenly shows up out of left field tonight. Without ways to implement it's manufacture and distribution, everyone who has cancer or worries about it is going to want the cure NOW. Without scientists, manufacturers, distributors, the media, the government, the entire apparatus of modern civilization behind you, you could end up hurting instead of helping. Progress is slow but inevitable.

I'm very impressed that you can see this. Most people who start with a rant never leave that position. Science is just one of many factors in play. We are definitely in a time of turmoil. Historically this happens before great change can occur. We'll make it, I have no doubt, and oddly enough it will probably be the rich and powerful despots we bemoan who will lead the way. They want to stay rich and powerful, so energy we can all afford is an absolute necessity that will drive the market. Fuel cells that aren't fossil fuel based. Are you suggesting some sort of personal use cells beyond the obvious automotive uses? Viable fuel that can power an individual home or business? Perhaps it is UC's role to provide the highly funded machine experiments while others provide the lower-cost a priori methodology. Collaborative efforts usually work best when the strengths of all involved are taken into consideration. * sigh *

Good call, Cap'n. I'll have to remember that one. The biggest shame is that there may be a great deal of truth underneath the overly dramatic broad brush strokes the OP chooses to use against the global scientific community. Electing to escalate a perceived problem at the University of California into a worldwide conspiracy is a poor choice, imo.

It is unfortunate that the media rarely stirs itself to write articles about those who do practice good ethics. It is usually the bad conduct that gets reported but one shouldn't take that to mean there are no good ethical practices. It is not science's fault that the media panders to base tastes.

BhavinB was right, you've stopped up your ears with enormous wads of self-proclaimed "truth" and set up a system where you alone are correct. These are the types of threads that are doomed to Moderator closure because the OP has no intention of debating, only of enlightening the blind masses. You are waving the "truth" around almost as much as your hands. You need to provide more global evidence that this is not the case. Mr. Mattson, with all due respect sir, please refrain from granting this rant the honor of "theory" status.

Similarities but nothing definite, tough to tell. Different IPs, different ISPs, join dates a week apart. Both from GMT-8 time zone. Conspiracy breeds paranoia.

Thanks, but we can't be trusted with something this big. "Absolute power", that sort of thing.

Real good point. We'll debrief him before letting him back into the Mods area. dave: "It's real good to see you again, Mokele." Mokele: "Thanks dave, good to be back." Sayo: "Where have you been?" Mokele: "Working." Sayo: "Who have you had contact with?" Mikele: "Just my GF, fellow students and my colleagues at work." dave: "How do you feel?" Mokele: "Fine." Sayo: "How many days did it take to create the Earth?" Mokele: "Si-, I mean thou-, millions, millions of days. YEARS! Millions of years!" dave: "It's cattle prod time!" Mokele: "NOOOOOO!"

The Bloop sounds weren't picked up by subs, IIRC, they were picked up by a passive hydrophone system that listens for subs. The sound had all the hallmarks of a marine life form and was considered huge because it was recorded on two different sensors quite a ways apart. I guess not even a whale could make a sound loud enough to trip two sensors but that's the part that makes me question the whole thing. Couldn't some kind of anomalous current or combination of factors have caused the same sound to be recorded by two remotely separated devices? Isn't that more likely than an enormous cephalopod or something? It would be so cool though to discover something like that!

This is very true to a certain extent. There is a definite psychological factor involved. But I think a bigger part of alcoholism involves tolerance levels. Some people can handle toxins better than others. Alcohol, drugs, caffeine, nicotine, many people can only handle small amounts of these poisons before they say, "Whoa, that's it for me!" Others have a larger tolerance, and for some the tolerance goes so far beyond what is healthy for them that it becomes more than just damaging, it becomes addictive. The human body is funny that way, you can feed it poison every day and then it will rebel when you stop. For a true alcoholic, it's not really a case of quitting for a while to dry out and then just having a drink or two. An alcoholic doesn't want just two drinks, and ten may not be enough either. Technically, alcoholism is cured as long as the alcoholic is not drinking alcohol. Realistically, ANY recovered alcoholic is still just one sip away from full-blown alcoholism again. Personally, when asked I say I'm a recovered alcoholic, with fourteen years of sobriety under my belt. I never say I'm cured.

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