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Are you talking about these records? http://www.johnkerry.com/pdf/jkmils.../Spot_Kerry.pdf

Seriously, guys, if you're saying what happened 30 years ago reflects on presidential character, where does drug abuse, alcohol abuse and having your Texas State driving records sealed up in Daddy's presidential library fit in?

I'd still argue that actually being in Vietnam (Purple Hearts or not) is rather more gutsy in terms of military service than the Air National Guard (fulfilled or not), but since the debates are coming up, perhaps we should move past this squabble about military service. Personally I'm a little more interested in this whole PNAC thing. I've long felt that the Democrats have sold out to big business concerns, and now it sounds like the neo-cons are undermining the Republicans. I can't help but feel things like abortion-stance and military service are becoming smoke-screens for bigger issues.

You're not wrong. Positions of power, whether it's in law enforcement, government, teaching or whatever, will always be subject to abusers. People go into diffferent professions for many different reasons. There are cops who legitimately want to protect and serve, and some use it as a way to bully and intimidate. Next time it happens, skip the desk sergeant. Part of his job is to blow you off, since 80% of the complaints are bogus anyway. Go straight to Internal Affairs if you can and tell them you want a case file number to refer to if it ever happens again.

Wikipedia, HowStuffWorks.com, MotionMountain.net. Can't wait to get others, good idea Cap'n!

How are they getting past some of the obvious Republican hurdles like smaller government? With the Patriot Act behind them they can increase government intrusion into the lives of millions as long as they can prove National Security concerns, however flimsy. It seems to me that these guys want to BE Big Brother.

A man walks into the sheriff's office and tell's the sheriff, "I want to become a deputy!" "Good, I want to you to go out and catch this man," says the sheriff, handing the man a wanted poster. "He was last seen wearing a brown paper hat, brown paper shirt, brown paper pants, and brown paper boots." "What's he wanted for?" asked the hopeful young man. The sheriff grinned and said, "Rustling."

LOL! I LOVE that joke! And it gives me a great new sales idea! A blonde is terribly overweight, so her doctor puts her on a diet. "I want you to eat regularly for 2 days, then skip a day, eat 2 days, then skip a day. Repeat this procedure for 2 weeks. The next time I see you, you'll have lost at least 5 pounds." When the blonde returned, she shocked the doctor by losing nearly 20 pounds. "Why, that's amazing!" the doctor said, "Did you follow my instructions?" The blonde nodded, "I'll tell you though, I thought I was going to drop dead that 3rd day." "From hunger, you mean?" asked the doctor." "No, from all that skipping."

You're welcome.

LOL! Sorry, Cap'n. To answer your original question of who you gonna call, drz, the answer is the Internal Affairs Division of that particular police force. I don't know how much good it'll do, but if the same cops get complaints over and over, believe me, IAD will come down on them hard. No police force wants to look bad and dangerous activity looks bad. You will most likely have to sign a complaint so be prepared. IAD should be able to give you some kind of anonymity with regards to the offending policeman, though.

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That's pretty incredible. I can't hardly believe it. You have gas stations that are open at 2am?!? j/k Seriously, I think there are some cops who figure they don't get paid enough for such hazardous duty so they take any little perk they can get. Cops got the reputation as donut-eaters because so many donut houses gave them free pastry & coffee just to have the protection when the baker is there alone at 4am. Here in Denver, most of the fast food places charge cops half-price just so a steady stream of police are seen going in and out during the day. Cheaper than getting robbed. As with any system, it's going to get abused by a few. Most cops I know work within the system but the jerks are REAL jerks. They kind of police themselves, though. They won't rat each other out, but they do pull pranks on each other to let the jerks know they're being watched. But I don't think you're ever going to get them to admit that it's wrong to speed and run lights at 2am. That is their time and they are not keen on criticism.

"Hello, kettle? This is the pot. You're black!" Funny how a literal definition traps the W. Let's not forget the folks around the world who supply nasty things to viscious people: http://www.thememoryhole.org/corp/iraq-suppliers.htm I wish I had a list of corporations that supply terrorists (or is this it?).

Seems? No mistake. Big businesses own the major media outlets. Part of successful spinning in Washington these days is to leak the right thing at the right time. As it should be. Forgive me if I seemed to doubt you, but when you lump all liberals into a barrel and start shooting, it makes you seem pig-headed and intractable. I'm glad this is not the case. Check this out, I don't have time for more now, I'm preparing for a business meeting. http://abcnews.go.com/sections/nightline/DailyNews/pnac_030310.htmlThe PNAC is alive and well and living in the Bush administration.

It was the funniest, but there were others. All the taxation things. You don't believe in taxation? Where would we get the money to pay for things? Doesn't it worry you that the deficit puts us in danger from foreign loans? "Leniency of sentencing crooks to jail", that's not a sweeping generality that lumps all trials of all crooks in all courts together? Name me one single bill the liberals have voted down that does all that, please. I'm glad you said it was "like" shoving words in your mouth. Because I said you forgot an argument that was "usually" used against liberals. More like holding it up in front of your face, just short of shoving it in your mouth.

No problem, Pangloss. Most everyone here appreciates those who are thorough. But Thales was giving his own personal opinions of Bush, not trying to tell everyone what all conservatives are for and against. And not everyone realizes that Bush could be just a figurehead for Cheney, Rumsfeld and Wolfowitz's neo-con agenda. Bush may well be the patsy in all this. Are you familiar with the Fundamental Attribution Error? It states that we all tend to package people up as a set of fundamental attributes, rather than taking each of their actions and beliefs in context of the situations. It's hard to fight against, but I feel we must try if we aren't going to be guilty of Douglas' kind of sweeping generalities. Don't you hate being pigeon-holed? Especially by someone who hasn't listened to a word you've said?

Nothing like having someone make sweeping generalities based on ill-conceived and barely researched notions. Pretty pathetic, Douglas. I especially like the part where I'm against business in general. Why, because I like it when companies treat their workers fairly? Or when I insist that they are held accountable to stockholders and pension recipients? You forgot the part where we hate the soldiers and hope they get hurt just because we're against the war in Iraq. That's usually part of the conservative rhetoric as well. I don't think anybody is going to give you a dumb, ill-conceived list of fallacies against the conservatives. We'll leave the hate to you and yours.

Abu Ghraib. We saw some pretty evil things being done to prisoners. What were they smart enough to keep secret, away from the cameras?

I hope you feel important down there, Mr Swing State Undecided. The fate of the free world rests on your shoulders. No pressure! *sigh* I know what you mean. I'm in a Denver suburb, and the city is predominantly Democrat while everyone else in the state with a military background or has more than a quarter acre of land is Republican. Welcome to Science Forums & Debate! But don't think your level-headed, open-minded intelligence fools me in any way. I fully expect you to jump out at any point wearing a troll-suit and start flaming away at us. Be warned, I've got my eye on you...

Bartender, give me another! Today I came home early from work and found my best friend having sex with my wife! MY BEST FRIEND! ______________________________________________________________________ That's terrible! What did you say? ______________________________________________________________________ I said, "BAD DOG! BAD DOG!"

All I ask is that you read the Why are you voting for Kerry? thread in Politics. I will do absolutely nothing else to sway your undecided vote.

An Alaskan mountain man came down out of the hills after three years of trapping and digging for gold. After selling his pelts and assaying his gold, he heads straight for the local brothel. He tells the proprietor, "I ain't had a woman in three years! I don't want any of these frilly, perfumed French hussies with their foreign ways! I want some hard, straight sex with the meanest, roughest, toughest girl you got! Have her meet me up in the room and tell her to bring some beers!" He stomps up to the room and strips down to his long johns, then lays back on the bed. Finally a woman kicks open the door and stomps into the room. She sets down a couple of cold bottles and without saying a word, whips off her clothing, turns around and bends over. The mountain man sits up in bed and says, "Hey, no, none of that! They promised me you'd be tough! I want it right here on the bed, the old-fashioned way!" She looks at him with her head between her knees and says, "I KNOW THAT! I just thought you might want to open them beers first!"

We tend to put the em-PHAS-is on the wrong syl-LAB-le.