"Actually discipline is important. Discipline doesn't have to equate with harshness or punishment. Think about it. How did you learn to discipline yourself? Chances are that your parents disciplined you first by expecting certain behaviors from you."
no, i agree that certain measures must be taken to get kids to do certain things or to not do certain things. im just asking for clarification as to what these certain things are.
"These can only be the words of a child,or one who has never brought up children"
not necessarily.
children should disobey when their parents are in the "wrong". parents can be "wrong," and children can indeed pick up on their parents' mistakes. they should question their parents from time to time; it challenges their parents to substantiate their stances and if they cannot do so, then it is obvious that the parent is in the wrong. otherwise, the child gains a deeper understanding of why they are being treated in such a manner.
children should not be made slaves for their parents. children should not be servants. children should be their own individual selves, guided by their parents. as they grow older, they learn more and more on their own through experience. they should ask questions, and do from early on in childhood. why then can they not question their parents? the least a parent could do is listen and respond.