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Everything posted by budullewraagh
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"because that's the year the state of Israel was established" yes, yes that is true. i still don't understand the significance "No...those curfews were set to curb terrorist activity...and innocent Palestinians have to suffer becasue of it. " again i ask you: how do these curb terrorism? let's do some math (assuming your numbers are accurate): 64% of palestinians dead are fighters. 100-64=36% civilians 78% of israelis dead are civilians 100-78=22% militants if they were in equal numbers, you'd find that 2.166 israeli civilians would die per palestinian civilian. but we're neglecting the fact that 3x the number of palestinians die, so actually many, many more palestinian civilians have been killed than israeli citizens. you have to consider. the palestinians are so pissed off because their houses, hospitals, banks, etc are being blown up. they are left to waste and hamas offers them food, shelter, etc in return for their services. what's better, condemning your family to death on the streets or fighting and dying so your children and wife can live? most "militants" don't have a choice
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"I'm talking pre-1948, before modern-day Israel. Those curfews were set to decrease terrorist activity. Rediculous - no; excessive - maybe." why talk pre-1948? i don't see the reason for you to do so. no, those curfews were set to screw the palestinians. just how good is a curfew exactly? "Oh so am I. According to the information posted above, 64% of the Palestinian dead are fighters, as opposed to; 78% of Israeli's that are killed are citizens." define "figher." define "citizen." consider your sources. think about it carefully
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"That's an innacurate statement... The West bank may in shambles, but all of Israel used to be called Palestine...it's certainly not laid to waste. How can you say that Israel destroyed Palestine's economy? Before Israel, Palestinains didn't HAVE an economy. Before the Israeli government, Palestine was British controlled-desert. Sure things suck now...but that's becasue the economy's on a downswing...international boycotts and disproval will do that to a country." that first sentence doesn't say anything. you're referring to something i wasn't referring to. palestine did indeed have an economy. it was destroyed when their banks, houses, hospitals, food storage facilities, etc were eliminated by the israeli army. it was destroyed when israel started putting rediculous curfews on the palestinian people. "See above posts. Most of the Palestinian dead were people fighting the IDF...casualties of war, not civilians." that accounts for how many? 100? 200? i'm talking about thousands. let's not be stupid here.
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"but do you think they would have been doing stuff like these without Israel?" if israel hadn't laid palestine to waste, possibly yes. if israel weren't spoon-fed money, i am confident they would not have come this far. "Maybe, at first the US and Europe helped Israel get off it's feet, but certainly not any more." really? http://www.wrmea.com/html/us_aid_to_israel.htm "U.S. Financial Aid To Israel: Figures, Facts, and Impact Summary Benefits to Israel of U.S. Aid Since 1949 (As of November 1, 1997) Foreign Aid Grants and Loans $74,157,600,000 Other U.S. Aid (12.2% of Foreign Aid) $9,047,227,200 Interest to Israel from Advanced Payments $1,650,000,000 Grand Total $84,854,827,200 Total Benefits per Israeli $14,630 Cost to U.S. Taxpayers of U.S. Aid to Israel Grand Total $84,854,827,200 Interest Costs Borne by U.S. $49,936,680,000 Total Cost to U.S. Taxpayers $134,791,507,200 Total Taxpayer Cost per Israeli $23,240" http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/2513159.stm "Israel is not saying how much money it is looking for, but the domestic media speculate that it could be as much as $14bn, of which $4bn would be military aid and $10bn loan guarantees." http://www.globes.co.il/DocsEn/did=358192.htm "Estimates: US Could Budget Tens of Millions of Dollars to Develop Anti-Missile Laser in Israel" http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/835957/posts "Israel aid in US 2004 draft budget: At least $2.776b" "No, the hardworking, dedicated citizens of Israel (Jews AND Muslims AND Christians) have brought Israel to where they are today. And the Palestinian extremists, you know the ones that think they need to blow up buses and pizza parlors to get attention, are ruining that." with much aid. some palestinian extremists are pissed off that israel has destroyed their economy, annexed their land, raped burned and pillaged, etc. and israel is pissed off that palestinians blow them up. both sides are guilty of crimes against humanity. it has to be recognized, however, that the number of documented casualties sustained by the palestinians is triple the amount sustained by israel. also, we must recognize that since palestine is underrepresented and in ruins, there are many more uncounted. it must be recognized that hamas, hezbollah and the israeli army are guilty of terrorism
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what sort of chemicals do you have?
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" Obviously...but the palestinians are not helping their own cause by resisting Israeli rule." i don't agree at all "Israel is an economically strong, democratic nation. It has contributed to the arts, science, technology, engineering. It turned much of the desert back into forest land. It has a strong agricultural backbone too." so if the united states were to invade bolivia tomorrow, you'd support such measures? "Did you know their are palestinian member's of the Israeli parliment?" did you know that the likud party is an overrepresented minority? "What other country in the Middle East has contributed so much to the world? Hmm...can't think of any." this is absolutely absurd. first, israel would be nothing without spoon-feeding from the us and britain. more importantly, since when can a country annex land because it contributes more to the world than the other country? sounds to me like nazi germany, except a little less reasonable. btw, could you give examples of what israel has done for the world? also, we have to realize that the palestinians should be given credit for many breakthroughs in mathematics, chemistry, physics, medicine and art
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ok, the only reasonable prices are found here: http://www.elementsales.com/pl_element.htm#ga and http://www.emovendo.net/store/customer/home.php?cat=255
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"Boo hoo." that's the most ignorant thing i've heard in recent weeks. try to be intellectual. "For Israel it self evidently is." but we are to consider more than just israel, now aren't we? the palestinians are people, no? out of curiosity, what exactly is your personal stance on this issue?
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ecoli, that graph doesn't really support your statements. you have to realize that these are very small numbers. any ap stat student can tell you that there really is little correlation. "Detrimental to Israels security? How so?" pisses people off "Presumably more land under Israels control means more taxes, more economic activity and most importantly, more Israelis." that's a good thing compared to the alternative? "Israel is a small country. The more land and the higher the population the stronger and deeper rooted it will be. The action of taking that land will also displace and weaken the Palestinians who are the historic enemies of Israel. Therefore it is apparent that increasing settlements is a means of securing Israels long term security." palestine is a small country. this paragraph is completely irrational. exploitation of a people and annexation of their land is justified by their small size and the prospect of gaining political power? what about the palestinians' long term security? or should they just not exist?
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how hot did your vessel get?
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"Just because they keep saying it, doesn't make it so. The land that Israel built the fence on, is the same land the the UN gave to Israel back in 1948. Since then, people have been continually tried to take that land away from Israel. Who cares if the fence has been internationally condemmed. Screw international law. Israel has to protect it's citizen's first. It's probably not the smartest idea to built more homes on the land...seeing how the situation is so fragile already, but Israel is perfectly justified to do so, no matter how foolish." you have to recognize what happened in 1948. the british displaced the palestinians. that wasn't exactly a good idea. many of the palestinians are pretty pissed off; i would be too. this fence would do very little to deter attacks; it would only encourage more. also, you have to recognize the fact that it goes directly through neighbourhoods. i'm surprised it doesn't divide homes into sections. it comes close enough though, and let's not forget the severe lack of gates. consequently the palestinians can't exactly commute to work. there's just another of israel's attempts to screw the palestinian economy.
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i think you got the tetraamine cupric nitrate complex
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probably zinc hydroxide
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i vehemently oppose this annexation of palestinian land
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i think it can be, but it just needs to be ever so slightly above absolute zero
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at increased pressures, actually, they have
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try to pull a david hahn. worked for him
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dr lang likes being santa. he'll take it off sometime soon
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the ewoks are hilarious; remember when the AT-STs came and shot them up? that was classic
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hmm, 120g of 99.999+% gallium for 1 euro... .....
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yes. it has magnetic properties, supposedly
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"From what I remember, the highest electronegativity differential between two metals, the larger the voltage obtainable in a battery when those metals are used as its anode and cathode. Did I remember well?" electronegativity doesn't determine cell voltage potential difference. reduction and oxidation potentials do. there is correlation between electronegativity and oxidation and reduction potentials, but this does not work in multiple cases
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you could concentrate it by boiling a solution of it, yes. if you heat it excessively, it can decompose, but if you are reasonable at it, you're ok
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ah, good call. or perhaps chlorite, although they aren't too effective as oxidizers
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thank you for your input, pangloss "Conservatives are more likely to interpret the U.S. constitution as it was meant when it was written." would you consider the current administration to be conservative? think about it for awhile