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I stand corrected--I hope she (you) reads my quote to Fred and coments on the Book Universe's Inteligent Design via Evolution math equations, proof of the ether particle mass in grams existance, and it function to carry the mass waves of light photons.

Fred your are a breath of fresh air. Moo did read part of my book, (and I give him great credit for his effort) the theoretical part, but it was not the area of the main issue he brought and infatically said, There is no ether (Aether) atmosphere of the Universe--in so many words. I would hope some one would help keep him on tract of his argument. I grant him that the long quote from my book about the Universe dementions etc. is speculative and is my own opinion based on study of Hubbles photos and other satilites input. How ever there is a chapter on the Math calculations of the ether partical's mass in grams, and it was calculated from the equations of DeBorgle, Einstine, and Planck. There is no argument on the results which give the mathetical proof of the ether's particle's existance, and through Planks length, the density of the ether particle that permits ultraviolet light to traverse between bodies in the Universe at the velocity of UV light. Thanks again for giving me the chance to speak to all on the forumn. Sincerely FRIPRO I

]Thanks Fred and interesting approach FRIPRO [unquote]

MOO, Read my book on line now. The address was given very earlier in this thread .I do not want to place it here as it is against the rules. Beiieve you me there is infatic proof that the ether (Aether) exist. Until you read it , please we are going no where. I can not prover it in this string and you know it. I really appreciate your time and questions and they are valid ones. How ever man in general know very little about the Universe, and I only its servant, its hands do what we are programmed to do. FRIPRO.[/unQUOTE] I didn't take it back to religion. If you keep claiming Ether is the medium through which light travels through - and supply no proof, or explanations whatsoever - then I would claim you are not a physicist either. Supply Proof, for heaven's sakes; I am not saying your theory is DEFINITELY WRONG, I'm saying I'm not convinced and I *CANNOT BE CONVINCED* until you supply PROOF. You are being most frustrating. ~moo

My friend MOO if I may, I just seen a photo of our planet earth from one of our space ships beyond Saturn. The Earth looked like a pinhead so small that it would not even be missed in space. Then when you think of you and I on its surface, and our own short life cycle, why would you believe that your argument about my statement The Universe's Intelligent Design of this earth and its species is not valid. Who do you think really did it? I do not want to get into the samanics of our creation. -but it was not an Earthman's created god I assure you. So lets get back to the real issue the Universe's ether atmosphere and the particles that make its atmosphere the building blocks of all matter, radiation (waves) and the gravity that holds it all together. If you would read my manuscript in whole,you may have a different opinion of ether particles which I have given the name WIT particles. Please do not take this debate back to religion as it is not in my area of science either. As a Physist believe you me my book The Universe's Intelligent Design via Evolution does prove the many questions that you and others have raised. So lets get back to the real issue the Universe's ether atmosphere and the particles that make its atmosphere the building blocks of all matter, radiation (waves) and the gravity that holds it all together. If you would read my manuscript in whole,you may have a different opinion of ether particles which I have given the name WIT particles.

MOO, I have log on to the URL you have given above , and I found this: Einstein himself still spoke of a type of ether that was not a “ponderable medium” but something of significance nonetheless: “...More careful reflection teaches us, however, that the special theory of relativity does not compel us to deny ether. We may assume the existence of an ether... Recapitulating, we may say that according to the general theory of relativity space is endowed with physical qualities; in this sense, therefore, there exists an ether... According to the general theory of relativity space without ether is unthinkable; for in such space there not only would be no propagation of light, but also no possibility of existence for standards of space and time (measuring-rods and clocks), nor therefore any space-time intervals in the physical sense. But this ether may not be thought of as endowed with the quality characteristic of ponderable media, as consisting of parts which may be tracked through time. The idea of motion may not be applied to it.” I also would like to point out that this string's title says UNIVERSE'S INTELLIGENT DESIGN. This means possesion in English. I imply that the Universe itself posses the ability to make Intelligent Designs and that is it's ID. ID is a minds ability to think. Your ID, my ID, the Univers's ID etc. Why would you think that the grey matter in your head or my head has the only means to think in this Universe? But please let's not get off of the main premise that of a particle ether (aether) atmosphere of the Universe that makes it all possible.

Newton not me was the father of the ether atmosphere of the Universe , and thousands of other scientist hold the same opinion. String theory is out ether is in. Astronomer researcher from Johns Hopkins University Baltimore (James Jee) using NASA's Hubble Space Telescope discovered a ghostly ring of dark matter that formed long ago during a titanic collision between two massive galaxy clusters. The ring's discovery is among the strongest evidence yet that dark matter exists. Astronomers have long suspected the existence of the invisible substance as the source of additional gravity that holds together galaxy clusters. Such clusters would fly apart if they relied only on the gravity from their visible stars. Although astronomers don't know what dark matter is made of, they hypothesize that it is a type of elementary particle that pervades the Universe. Credit: NASA http://www.physorg.com/news98450367.html. All of them #1 thru #5,(I am told the message is too short so I have made it longer)

A very enlighting question... The theory of the UNIVERSE'S, INTELLIGENT DESIGN via EVOLUTION (UIDE)© is a guiding road map of Newton's Universe's ether sea construction and operation. Intelligent Design (ID) and Intuitive Intelligence (II) is not to be mistaken with the suggested religious version of Intelligent design (Id), which leaves evolution out of the human enlightenment. Syndicated press columnist Paul Varnell, on August. 21, 2005 said: "Fundamentalists desperately want creationism and Intelligent design (Id) to be true." Which it is not.

ANSWER: MOO please seperate ID from Id. Thank you for your informative and interesting, thought provoking questions. FRIPRO

I am an agnostic and I first posted this thread in the Science Forum, however the moderator transfered it to this string. I believe it belongs in science -however I am not the one who makes those decisions., I guess it rest with the readers and their coments. I'll bet this will raise afew coments

I was very suprised to see my manuscript posted as I had no intentions of placing this URL log on in this forum. Little did I think that anyone one would see it prior to my book publisheding date in 2008. Thank you for you interest, sure would like to hear your well founded conclusions. However as the topic of the URL is over 200 pages and many different threads etc. You could, limit your thoughts to this thread . Sincerely The Universe's atmosphere is a mixture of many other radiations and gases such as plasma, dust particles, ice, and many chemical mixtures, depending where one measures. Newton's ether (perhaps dark matter) is particles. This is the atmosphere light waves navigate. Radiation photons cannot navigate empty space; they must have a medium to traverse. Particles may make up the elusive dark matter to which so many scientist have referred.*

NASA's Office of Space Science published in The Harvard-Smithsonian Center for Astrophysics: Scientists are hesitant to modify the known "laws" of physics–especially something like Einstein's theory of gravity, which has been very well tested over the past century. But with something as perplexing as dark energy, it is important to leave no stone unturned. Several leading scientists are now investigating the possibility that the most cherished laws of physics may need to be modified. It is possible this may signal a new aspect of the law of gravity that Einstein overlooked. An ether atmosphere of the Universe fits the above theory

The Hubble telescope observations imply that dark matter ether must exist, as only about 4 percent of the mass of the Universe (as an estimate) can be accounted

Wow! I am suprised at your remarks, perhaps others will coment Martin I forgot to ask where did you move this thread?

UNIVERSE'S INTELLIGENT DESIGN via EVOLUTION is a new and exciting thread. It covers many Controversys The Scientific Controversy Five of the scientific ambiguities among many that puzzle the Earth's people and their scientists are:***** *** #1. Does the Universe have an ether atmosphere (dark matter, dark energy, particles)?** #2. Is the Universe eternal?* *** #3. Was the Universe created out of nothing during a Big Bang?* *** #4. Did a God create the Universe?** *** #5. What is the origin of life? What say you about any of the above?