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They will tear him apart with anything they can use if he presents a threat. You do realize that this stuff, when it comes with a significant amount of support, is threatening to the only thing that they hold dear (control, power) right? They have spent 230 years screwing up the constitution. What makes you think they want it to go back to the way it was intended? They will eat anything in their path, including their own young if their young present a threat. Ask Colin Powell.

Psychopharmacology

I hate to say this, but when the real political machines get through tearing Paul down, unfortunately, there may not be much left for average Joe Dem or Joe Rep to vote for. You can bet that they will go to great lengths to paint Paul as uncooperative and argumentative. I've watched him debate and I believe that he actually is kind of snappy. Don't get me wrong. I like him, and I like that part about him, but I can also see the political machines tearing him down over it........for example, he's too stubborn and argumentative to work with congress....won't be able to work with other leaders.....bla bla bla....yackity yack.....nonsense...nonsense That, plus the "wasted vote" nonsense. That "wasted vote" and yakity yack, bla bla nonsense is dog (or sheep) food and the dogs (sheep) will eat it. Woof (Baaaa).

I'm not sure I buy a full out mistake either. And I don't know if it was a blatant lie per say, but it makes sense that the administration was looking for pieces for the puzzle in order to bring into existence the specific image they wanted to see and communicate. Then they found the piece they were looking for in Curve Ball (for example). This is how a lot of people succeed. Maybe its just human nature. I see similar behaviour ALL of the time both in science and in corporate culture.....the selective culling of data and information to support the desired conclusion. I can't count how many times I've watched people throw out 90% of the information or data in order to support their preordained conclusion with the remaining 10%. Although it may not be a blatant lie, I still consider it dishonest; whether it is in the corporate world, in science, in politics and in making war.

Regarding Curve Ball. I started a thread on him about 5 days ago, but it just kind of died. I think it is an amazing story worthy of a Three Stooges or Monty Python skit except it is just too scary to be funny. Quote ""Faulty Intel Source "Curve Ball" Revealed 60 Minutes: Iraqi's Fabricated Story Of Biological Weapons Aided U.S. Arguments For Invasion 'Curve Ball' Revealed (CBS) 60 Minutes has identified the man whose fabricated story of Iraqi biological weapons drove the U.S. argument for invading Iraq. It has also obtained video of "Curve Ball," as he was known in intelligence circles, and discovered he was not only a liar, but also a thief and a poor student instead of the chemical engineering whiz he claimed to be. 60 Minutes correspondent Bob Simon's two-year investigation will be broadcast this Sunday, Nov. 4, at 7 p.m. ET/PT. Curve Ball is an Iraqi defector named Rafid Ahmed Alwan, who arrived at a German refugee center in 1999. To bolster his asylum case and increase his importance, he told officials he was a star chemical engineer who had been in charge of a facility at Djerf al Nadaf that was making mobile biological weapons. 60 Minutes has learned that Alwan’s university records indicate he did study chemical engineering but earned nearly all low marks, mostly 50s. Simon’s investigation also uncovered an arrest warrant for theft from the Babel television production company in Baghdad where he once worked. Also appearing in Sunday's segment is video that 60 Minutes obtained of Alwan at a Baghdad wedding in 1993. He eventually wound up in the care of German intelligence officials to whom he continued to spin his tale of biological weapons. His plan succeeded partially because he had worked briefly at the plant outside Baghdad and his descriptions of it were mostly accurate. He embellished his account by saying 12 workers had been killed by biological agents in an accident at the plant. More than a hundred summaries of his debriefings were sent to the CIA, which then became a pillar - along with the now-disproved Iraqi quest for uranium for nuclear weapons - for the U.S. decision to bomb and then invade Iraq. The CIA-director George Tenet gave Alwan’s information to Secretary of State Colin Powell to use at the U.N. in his speech justifying military action against Iraq. Tenet gave the information to Powell despite a letter - a copy of which 60 Minutes obtained - addressed to him by the head of German intelligence stating that Alwan appeared to be believable, but there was no evidence to verify his story. Through a spokesman, Tenet denies ever seeing the letter. "[Tenet] needs to talk to his special assistants if he didn’t see it," says Tyler Drumheller, a former CIA senior official. "I am sure they showed it to him and I am sure ... it wasn’t what they wanted to see," he tells Simon. Other CIA officials doubted Curve Ball’s authenticity, including former Central Group Chief Margaret Henoch, who speaks publicly for the first time, telling Simon she openly refuted Alwan’s story. "And it was like 'Whack a Mole.' He just popped right back up. It was unbelievable." Alwan was caught when CIA interrogators were finally allowed to question him and confronted him with evidence that his story could not be as he described it. Weapons inspectors had examined the plant at Djerf al Nadaf before the fall of Baghdad and found no evidence of biological agents. In the end, however, Alwan got what he wanted. He is believed to be in Germany, free and probably living under an assumed name. Why did he do it? "It was a guy trying to get his green card essentially, in Germany, and playing the system for what it was worth," says Drumheller. "It just shows ... the law of unintended consequences," he tells Simon.""" End Quote http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/...n3440577.shtml This is what happens when you don't study and don't do your homework. The begining of the end of civilization as we know it. ______________

I wouldn't believe it if I didn't see it......... http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/years/2007/1105072jenkem1.html

Do the offspring also need to be removed from the gene pool?

Interesting thought you have there. Instead of exporting arms, troops and other forms of "aid" overseas, we could just air drop goats to win them over to the American way of thinking. I am pretty sure that what you are insinuating here is not allowed by the Geneva Convention. You might have to stick with the goats or do this in Guantanmo.

I dunno what the heck is going on. Maybe it has something to do with the economy. Straw is a heck of lot cheaper than a five star dinner for two and a movie.

That's a hard part for me too. Were you able to get it all cleanly cut away without any breaking or did you use some toothpicks? Some of the dark parts are VERY close, so it looks *I* might have had to use toothpicks in some places.... Either way, its an amazing looking pumkin!

Despite the attempts above trying to make the pro-banjo music playing position appear to be logical, it remains illogical. It also illegal in most or all states of the union. I expect that it will remain that way until the world finally goes to hell in a hand basket. Now listen up good city boys, the females of most (but not all) species besides homo sapien have estrus cycles, so they are only receptive to a male when they are in heat. Any activity outside of that normal cycle would be un-natural and, no matter how many doggy biscuits or smoked pigs ears you might offer her, an unpleasurable experience for the female. It is animal cruelity. Please stay away from my farm.

Can I ask what carving tools you used to obtain such intricate designs? Absolutely BEAUTIFUL!

Just send me the answer at 1.3 GHz....I'll get it.

I miss em too. We don't have Whitecastles out west either, but you can find them frozen in the grocery store most of the time. Just nuke em. They aren't quite as good as fresh, but they're tastey anyway. Since I can find the frozen ones in the grocery, I miss the Dusseldorf mustard and onion rings the most.

Well, LSD might fit the bill. It started out pretty harmless and then the CIA started messing around with it. http://www.a1b2c3.com/drugs/lsd09.htm

Uhmm...you know this how? Your family tree must be as straight as a telephone pole. I applaud your entrepenureal spririt. Are you planning to sell franchises? Have you considered corporate events? Eating is done to sustain life. It is part of the life cycle. Interspecies intercourse is not part of the life cycle. I think I understand better now why radical Islam wants to kill us. Thanks for enlightening me.

Exactly what did you do? In detail.

Here is a typical example of how far you can go in this life if you are stubborn enough. You see. A person really CAN do anything if they put their mind to it. We have before us a theory with some pretty substantial obstacles in front of it. But are we gonna let those obstacles stop us? Noooo. Uh uh. Heck no. We're gonna say to heck with those big ol obstacles, put our heads down, and say get out da way obstacles ! We gonna do what Einstein, Hawking and their peers have failed to do .....we gonna figure out all the mysteries of the universe in intimate detail. Ether.....Bam! Forest, your mama was absolutely right. Life really is a box of chocolates.

How come all your posts are links to ""http://www.machineslikeus.com"" ? Huh? Do you get a nickle for each hit?

Quote ""Faulty Intel Source "Curve Ball" Revealed 60 Minutes: Iraqi's Fabricated Story Of Biological Weapons Aided U.S. Arguments For Invasion 'Curve Ball' Revealed (CBS) 60 Minutes has identified the man whose fabricated story of Iraqi biological weapons drove the U.S. argument for invading Iraq. It has also obtained video of "Curve Ball," as he was known in intelligence circles, and discovered he was not only a liar, but also a thief and a poor student instead of the chemical engineering whiz he claimed to be. 60 Minutes correspondent Bob Simon's two-year investigation will be broadcast this Sunday, Nov. 4, at 7 p.m. ET/PT. Curve Ball is an Iraqi defector named Rafid Ahmed Alwan, who arrived at a German refugee center in 1999. To bolster his asylum case and increase his importance, he told officials he was a star chemical engineer who had been in charge of a facility at Djerf al Nadaf that was making mobile biological weapons. 60 Minutes has learned that Alwan’s university records indicate he did study chemical engineering but earned nearly all low marks, mostly 50s. Simon’s investigation also uncovered an arrest warrant for theft from the Babel television production company in Baghdad where he once worked. Also appearing in Sunday's segment is video that 60 Minutes obtained of Alwan at a Baghdad wedding in 1993. He eventually wound up in the care of German intelligence officials to whom he continued to spin his tale of biological weapons. His plan succeeded partially because he had worked briefly at the plant outside Baghdad and his descriptions of it were mostly accurate. He embellished his account by saying 12 workers had been killed by biological agents in an accident at the plant. More than a hundred summaries of his debriefings were sent to the CIA, which then became a pillar - along with the now-disproved Iraqi quest for uranium for nuclear weapons - for the U.S. decision to bomb and then invade Iraq. The CIA-director George Tenet gave Alwan’s information to Secretary of State Colin Powell to use at the U.N. in his speech justifying military action against Iraq. Tenet gave the information to Powell despite a letter - a copy of which 60 Minutes obtained - addressed to him by the head of German intelligence stating that Alwan appeared to be believable, but there was no evidence to verify his story. Through a spokesman, Tenet denies ever seeing the letter. "[Tenet] needs to talk to his special assistants if he didn’t see it," says Tyler Drumheller, a former CIA senior official. "I am sure they showed it to him and I am sure ... it wasn’t what they wanted to see," he tells Simon. Other CIA officials doubted Curve Ball’s authenticity, including former Central Group Chief Margaret Henoch, who speaks publicly for the first time, telling Simon she openly refuted Alwan’s story. "And it was like 'Whack a Mole.' He just popped right back up. It was unbelievable." Alwan was caught when CIA interrogators were finally allowed to question him and confronted him with evidence that his story could not be as he described it. Weapons inspectors had examined the plant at Djerf al Nadaf before the fall of Baghdad and found no evidence of biological agents. In the end, however, Alwan got what he wanted. He is believed to be in Germany, free and probably living under an assumed name. Why did he do it? "It was a guy trying to get his green card essentially, in Germany, and playing the system for what it was worth," says Drumheller. "It just shows ... the law of unintended consequences," he tells Simon.""" End Quote http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/11/01/60minutes/main3440577.shtml This is what happens when you don't study and don't do your homework. The begining of the end of civilization as we know it.

Isn't the desire or willingness to end one's own life itself a clinically relevant indicator of an underlying beharioural and/or organic brain disorder?

Quote: """Former Columbia University Professor Robert O. Paxton has written that: Fascism may be defined as a form of political behavior marked by obsessive preoccupation with community decline, humiliation, or victim-hood and by compensatory cults of unity, energy, and purity, in which a mass-based party of committed nationalist militants, working in uneasy but effective collaboration with traditional elites, abandons democratic liberties and pursues with redemptive violence and without ethical or legal restraints goals of internal cleansing and external expansion."[9] Paxton further defines fascism's essence as: ...a sense of overwhelming crisis beyond reach of traditional solutions; 2. belief one’s group is the victim, justifying any action without legal or moral limits; 3. need for authority by a natural leader above the law, relying on the superiority of his instincts; 4. right of the chosen people to dominate others without legal or moral restraint; 5. fear of foreign `contamination."""End Quote Sound familiar?

Hmmm..... Quote """Ultrasound-Mediated Drug Delivery The goal of this research is to develop a robust, ultrasound-mediated method for targeted delivery of compounds into cells for cancer treatment and other applications. Ultrasound can be temporally and spatially controlled, and can be safely applied repeatedly if needed, thus provides a non-invasive means of boosting intracellular drug delivery that can be more advantageous for clinical applications. However, challenges remain for the development of ultrasound-mediated delivery strategy in part because the intravenously injected drug is difficult to localize in effective concentrations at the target site, and the mechanism of sonoporation is not completely understood. As a result, consistent and controllable outcome of ultrasound delivery has not been attained. In this research we use an interdisciplinary approach to develop a local ultrasound-mediated drug release system where the site-specific release of the drug from an injectable, biodegradable polymer matrix will be driven by ultrasound, and the drug uptake into the cell will be enhanced by ultrasound-induced sonoporation. We hypothesize that drug release and cell uptake of the drug will be superior to either an implant working via passive diffusion or sonoporation following intravenous drug administration. Our central hypothesis for this research is therefore as follows: Ultrasound can be used successfully in combination with site-specific drug delivery as a highly-controllable targeted delivery strategy of drugs, proteins, genes, and other compounds into viable cells and organs for therapeutic purposes. The successful completion of this research will establish a solid foundation for developing an US-based strategy for targeted delivery of compounds into cells and organs for cancer therapy. Collaborator and project Co- PI: Cheri Deng, Ph.D., Department of Biomedical Engineering, Case Western Reserve University""" End Quote http://ccir.uhrad.com/drugdelivery/ultrasound.asp and... Quote """Increasing Skin Permeability With Low-Frequency Ultrasound Another transdermal technology being developed is low-frequency sonophoresis (LFS), which uses low-frequency ultrasound to create pores in the skin that stay open for several hours. In studies with animals, LFS has delivered insulin to diabetic rabbits and the anticoagulant heparin to rats. Recently, scientists used LFS to administer local anesthetics through the skin to human volunteers. To improve the design of LFS systems, NIH-funded researchers have been studying the mechanisms by which LFS increases skin permeability. Scientists found that an ultrasound frequency of 20 kilohertz induces the formation of low-pressure air bubbles on the skin surface. These bubbles grow rapidly and then collapse violently, producing microjets and shock waves that create temporary micropores in the skin. With this understanding of the mechanism of pore formation, investigators can design LFS systems to focus the ultrasound waves so that they maximize bubble formation on the skin surface. Researchers have also experimented with viscous substances known as porous resins to increase skin permeability during sonophoresis. When dissolved in a solution of water and alcohol, these resins release air bubbles that trigger the formation of larger bubbles when LFS is applied. Investigators discovered that adding a porous resin to the solution surrounding pig skin increased permeability to the drug mannitol during sonophoresis. Mannitol promotes urine excretion, which is useful for treating brain swelling and other conditions that involve excess fluid. The results of this study suggest that adding a porous resin to the fluid that bathes the skin might enhance drug administration by sonophoresis.""" End Quote http://www.nibib.nih.gov/HealthEdu/Pubs/Discovery/PainlessDrugDelivery

Who are your refering to that "we kill all of the time"? I only know about society condoning "killing" in cases of abortion, the death penalty and acts of war. And even though it may be condoned and/or legalized, it does not necessarily follow that such acts are moral. As a society we usually don't condone the killing of the helpless and/or the innocent, do we? Am I missing something?

Logic path for an unborn child is life=>death=>killing: 1. Most agree that it is life (I was actually surprized by this) 2. Death is the end of life 3. Killing is death at the hand of another (for example, by a doctor) 4. Therefore, abortion must be killing Everyone, is there anything wrong with the logic? Please feel free to throw rocks at it.....