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Your post does not offend me in the least, it is one of the most sensible I have read. It is difficult to provide direct evidence about existence of a God. Nevertheless what I have been unable to prove yet is the existence of an electromagnetic energy source that drives the cosmos. Klaynos the moderator has referred to another thread I attempted to discuss aspects of the existence of this energy source where he said "you've already got a thread on your idea that "cosmic motion" effects atomic systems:". But before I was able to expand on what, and why, I perceived the currently held scientific viewpoint was inadequate, the thread was closed with strict instructions "Do not reintroduce this subject". Even discussing this here, is risking the wrath of closure of this thread or even personally being banned from the forum. Phi for All stated here: But it takes time to provide any better explanation, which at the time in that closed thread I was attempting to do. Here I stated to iNow: The current scientific viewpoint does not include the more powerful underlying FM (frequency modulation) component being imposed on atomic structure which actually forms the resonance characteristics of all atomic structure. It is the electromagnetic properties of the cosmic motion that powers the physical atomic structure. The amplitude or stochastic electron behavior is superimposed on top of the more powerful FM component. Because we move with electromagnetic field that causes this effect, we do not have the capacity to detect the electromagnetic field, except by the existence of physical inertia as atomic structure adjusts to the changed velocity component and the continual flow of the cosmic electromagnetic field into atomic matter as the atom is forced to be accelerated in a spiral cosmic path (gravity) with the electromagnetic energy being converted to a kinetic velocity direction change. There are many other properties about atomic particles that can be explainable because of this cosmic electromagnetic field. Because as I said before this electromagnetic field is not readily detectable it is thought to not exist by current scientific viewpoints and is exclude in current theories. This of course does mean gravity is electromagnetic in nature. It is this cosmic electromagnetic field that forms the cosmic energy I refer to as the living God. An all pervasive fluid referred to as the Holy Spirit. The cosmic energy that powers the cosmos and everything in it. If I am wrong only time will tell. In the meantime I know personally that God knows I am right and in the end science will submit to the will and knowledge of God. There will be someone who will develop an effective way of detecting and proving the existence of God an an electromagnetic field which we currently refer to as gravity. Every time we separate the individual charges contained within the neutral atom, we reveal the living God, in that we reveal the cosmic electromagnetic field. Yes it is a very different concept to what is currently believed by scientists.
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Why do you even bring such filth into this thread. This will not bring you any respect. We are intelligent human beings, let us act like it. Thank you njaohnt. As I said before: The relationship anybody has with God is not unlike the relationship a man or woman has with his wife or husband. There is absolute trust in that partner in that that they will do nothing to harm you because of the love you share. How many have said to their partner "Do you love me?" and when they say "Yes" do you say "Prove it". This type of disbelief can easily destroy any relationship that exists. Past experience with that partner should be all the proof you need. How does one prove love? It is the same with God who is the source of love. When the Holy Spirit provides you personal knowledge and wisdom, along with it is a feeling of love. 1John 4 verses 7-8: 7. Beloved, let us love one another, for love is of God; and everyone who loves is born of God and knows God. 8. He who does not love does not know God, for God is love.
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iNow: Just as you think God is not evidenced as real then to you Satan is not evidenced as real. The scripture tells us to test the spirits. 1John 3 verse 1: Beloved, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits, whether they are of God; because many false prophets have gone out into the world. Understand that visions are a form of guidance. A lecturer at university does not give so much evidence as he give guidance to his students. Asking just for evidence from the Holy Spirit is not how it works we are asked to test the guidance provided by the spirits. When I said: I also noted this stated by Christ in John 14 verses 10-11: 10. "Do you not believe that I am in the Father, and the Father in Me? The words that I speak to you I do not speak on My own authority; but the Father who dwells in Me does the works. 11. "Believe Me that I am in the Father and the Father in Me, or else believe Me for the sake of the works themselves. We have a mind where we can reason, so should we not use it wisely, Proverbs 2 verse 5. then you will understand the fear of the Lord, and find the knowledge of God. You pointed out a website with contradictions found in the bible. Most contradictions are born out of misinterpretation. For example Is Jesus equal to or lesser than? JOH 10:30 I and my Father are one. JOH 14:28 Ye have heard how I said unto you, I go away, and come again unto you. If ye loved me, ye would rejoice, because I said, I go unto the Father: for my Father is greater than I. Typically a misinterpretation because Jesus is stating that the Holy Spirit (God) is within me. This is the same Spirit that gives life to all of us. But because they don't know the Holy Spirit they assume Jesus was just a man, or not understanding that Jesus was a Son of God, of which we all are. See John chapter 10 verses 32-36: 32. Jesus answered them, "Many good works I have shown you from My Father. For which of those works do you stone Me?'' 33. The Jews answered Him, saying, "For a good work we do not stone You, but for blasphemy, and because You, being a Man, make Yourself God.'' 34. Jesus answered them, "Is it not written in your law, `I said, "You are gods'' '? 35. "If He called them gods, to whom the word of God came (and the Scripture cannot be broken), 36. "do you say of Him whom the Father sanctified and sent into the world, `You are blaspheming,' because I said, `I am the Son of God'? We need to use a little more common sense when understanding scripture, it is not easy for God to give a proof to everybody, this is because everybody will think and read scripture differently depending on their personal education. It is most helpful is someone (like Jesus) can help show the way. One thing has become clear to me, it is the Spirit that can be trusted to be the most reliable in Spiritual education confirmed by the written word of God.
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Vision: For example during sleeping very vivid images showing for an example the planet earth moving along with and within a moving fluid. Plus many other related images. One vision in particular I remember when I was working with atomic structure was the image of myself looking in a mirror. It took a while to work that one out. Then it dawned on me in that the image in the mirror was identical to myself but not the same, everything was in reverse. This helped me to understand that what was happening in the heavens was also happening in reverse within the atomic structure. This was the most helpful of all visions. Where did these visions come from? my imagination? or the living cosmos (God)? What conclusion would you have drawn if you had this same helpful insight?
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What viable evidence do you want. Are we in cosmic motion? (Yes). does cosmic motion effect the electric charged particles? (Yes). Basically the neutral atom is kept electromagnetically trapped and locked into moving within the cosmic magnetic environment, classic electrical theory predicts this condition. How simple can I make it for you to understand these things?
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Our motion within the cosmos is spiral not orbital relative to our local galactic velocity. Do you understand amplitude (stochastic) and frequency modulation. I said "This cosmic motion is both real and has a major impact on atomic structure and resonance". Resonance is included in the motion of particles within the atomic model. Well answer the question: Do current theories acknowledge our atoms motion within the cosmos. You call this an answer? Are they not self explanatory? There are always variations in aspects of spiritual belief. God is the same God for all of us, (the believers or non-believer). Whatever Einstein's variation of belief was, is not the point in my statement. What happened to my 3 questions?
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I will try to simplify things for you by asking the 3 questions below. 1: Is gravity a product of mass or not? 2: Can and do, atom's process a powerful external cosmic electromagnetic energy? 3: If a powerful external cosmic electromagnetic energy field existed why do we not detect it? It is pointless trying answer the questions you have presented to me for example, Our motion within the cosmos is spiral not orbital, this includes the motion of particles within the atomic model. Current theories do not acknowledge this. You have a proven classical electrical theory which states electric current is the motion of charged particle through a medium: see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electric_current Yet you choose to ignore your own electrical theory when it comes to motion of charged particles through the cosmos. This cosmic motion is both real and has a major impact on atomic structure and resonance. Whilst you may understand the motion of an electric charged particle within a magnetic field, you may not have considered the implications of a electrically neutral atom's response to that same field. What would happen if that magnetic field was moving? There are too many flaws in the basic concepts being promoted in science today. It is no wonder Einstein said things like: "Any intelligent fool can make things bigger, more complex, and more violent. It takes a touch of genius -- and a lot of courage -- to move in the opposite direction." and "We can't solve problems by using the same kind of thinking we used when we created them." and "Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the the universe." and "My religion consists of a humble admiration of the illimitable superior spirit who reveals himself in the slight details we are able to perceive with our frail and feeble mind."
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But not why the proton and electron don't fuse together because of electromagnetic radiation lost when the electron orbits the proton nucleus. Outside the nucleus, free neutrons are unstable. Why does the neutron decay outside of the nucleus? Was quantum mechanics initially developed to try to explain why the proton and electron don't fuse together because of electromagnetic radiation lost when the electron orbits the proton nucleus. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bohr_model The graviton is a mythical particle and has not been proved to exist, just as God has not been proved to exist yet. General relativity is a mathematical theory to try to replace the gravitational effect. I cannot understand how it explains the motion of galaxies. Moving cosmic electromagnetic energy. The energy that drives the cosmos accelerating galaxies at colossal speeds. The bible is trying to explain to all of us how the cosmos works. Is this the same as what science is attempting to do? To me this information is factual. I have made some of the information publically available to others, as I said before. Where have I been given the chance to show it on this Forum? So have I, have patience. At this time I believe you do not have the qualifications to test this knowledge. This belief is based on the answers you have supplied here, that I have had to re-answer. Really? Can you say for certainty that Einstein was not inspired by God?
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I have started to release a book on amazon kindle called "The Living Cosmos The Search For Universal Energy" which is a first release at this time. This book is available free to the Kindle Owners' Lending Library using KDP Select. To release the information on this forum is not possible because it has already been blocked by the moderators using the phrase "Do not bring the subject up again".
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No, I am not purposely misrepresenting it at all. It was explained to me: 1: Why virtually all atomic structure was electrically neutral. 2: Why all atomic particles everywhere had almost identical characteristics. 3: What a gravitation field is and why we cannot detect its electromagnetic properties. 4: How gravity drives the cosmos. 5: That the gravitational field is related to the Holy Spirit. To me this information is factual. Where have I been given the chance to show it? So how can you say "None of those things turned out to be valid". Are you saying here, that people who have studied accepted science all their lives, have it all worked out as factually correct. The reason for the existence of the energy structure relating to and the cause of gravitation is at present unknown to scientists so what right have they to judge me because the underlying structure of this energy has been revealed to me. Not only has it been revealed to me, I have checked the information against accepted scientific theories that verify that the concepts given to me are valid. This has take some considerable time to do (several years) and is still ongoing. To present that information in a sentence or two here is like trying to fit the sun into the volume of the earth. If given a chance, the information I present here should stir the minds of the scientist, stirring them to look in the right place for the answer. God is not an UN-natural phenomena, on the contrary he is a natural source of energy that drives the cosmos. The (heavenly) laws are the laws that scientists are looking for. These laws explain how and why all things exist in the format they are. What controls atomic structure, why atoms are kept in cosmic motion and most importantly why the life force exists everywhere. If the scientist of this world studied the laws laid down by the scripture and trusted in their personal and innermost thoughts they will find that what I am saying is true. You all respect Einstein. Did he not believe in God when he said: "I want to know God's thoughts; the rest are details." and "I am convinced that He (God) does not play dice." and "God is subtle but he is not malicious." and "Science without religion is lame. Religion without science is blind." Please all of you - Have respect for the beliefs of others.
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I am not preaching to you, I have not delivered a sermon. I have stated a personal experience. How can you say I have no "predictive, testable, repeatable scientific evidence, that you have knowledge given to you by God". This is just your stating your opinion as fact. This I do not understand what you are saying. Should I have started the sentence by saying "I believe..." or "I think..."? For example: I believe "to attack the scripture calling it rubbish or similar is childish and disrespectful. The reason I say this is because such attacks can easily start unnecessary conflict even to the point of wars. It is respectful to ask why something is believed and judge according to what is referred to as witnessing. If two or more make the same statement, as in the law courts then it be accepted as a potential truth. Just saying God does not exist does not mean it is the truth, Just as saying God does exist cannot be verified."
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Go back and read again what I said before: http://www.scienceforums.net/topic/63614-the-power-of-god/page__st__60 Refresh your memory again.
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As you can see by the warning above there are rules that must be adhered to. This thread is not mine and I can be accused of hijacking a thread as I have been in the past. I am not preaching like the church does, I do not have a following or cult, I have very specific knowledge given by the Spiritual power of God. Each of us has special gifts, which the Spirit can use for a special purpose. What has been given to me is for a purpose which will come clearer to me in time. This also means that what is given to others can be for different purposes. Primarily all special gifts are for the benefit of mankind in general. Those that have been given a gift through the Spirit acknowledge the existence of the Spirit hence over the many thousands of years the various books of the scripture have been written, so that nothing may be lost. To attack the scripture calling it rubbish or similar is childish and disrespectful. The reason I say this is because such attacks can easily start unnecessary conflict even to the point of wars. It is respectful to ask why something is believed and judge according to what is referred to as witnessing. If two or more make the same statement, as in the law courts then it be accepted as a potential truth. Just saying God does not exist does not mean it is the truth, Just as saying God does exist cannot be verified. Mathew 18 verse 16: "But if he will not hear you, take with you one or two more, that `by the mouth of two or three witnesses every word may be established.' Understand this, the cosmos (God) is trying to educate us through the Spirit. We live by Spirit which means we exist in the same format as God exists (Spirit), for this reason we should listen to our innermost guidance. Who has had a thought occur to them just before a person contacts them and said "I was just thinking about you" or something similar to this. Most of us have. Communication is not restricted to taxi cabs or listening to your favorite radio station. Light itself is a form of radio waves, so is heat, communication is the natural process of the cosmos. For this reason do not be surprised if you receive communication from the cosmos itself. We are supposed to be intelligent human beings, let us act like it.
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What was it then? If not fairy dust
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If you believe in the Big Bang theory then you must also accept the energy released was the living God. The Big Bang theory has as much credibility as the theory that God exists. It all came from nothing?
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In two words "Not possible": Klaynos the moderator told me not to bring the subject again when he closed the last thread down: http://www.scienceforums.net/topic/54622-contradictions-religion-vs-science/page__st__140 I have taken enough of a liberty to say what I have said. What I have said is the truth even though there is the claim I do not have evidence for it. I am not an idiot. I am highly skilled in what I do. If you start a thread in asking a question I will attempt to answer but be careful that the moderators do not close the threads down. Sometimes what is obvious to me, can take sometime to work out how to explain it to others. Some knowledge is sightly different to accepted physics, in that current physics does not understand the original concept especially regarding gravitation theory.
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When information is received from the Holy Spirit it comes in a manner that makes perfect sense. Faith is not required to understand it. To another person who does not receive it directly, the first person appears to accept the information on the basis of faith, unless the first person explains the truth contained in the information.
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I apologize, you are right in that yourself you did not ask. But many have one way or another and I was trying to make a point. Proof is in the individuals understanding and belief, those who have not received, perceive another operates under the faith banner.
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You asked for my proof, not yours. The decision to believe or not is both personal and individual. Maybe one day you will get yours.
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Up until the age of about forty I used to think the Bible and God was just a crutch used by man to explain the unknown. Yes I used to be just like many of you. You could call me a disbeliever. What I did not know was that the Holy Spirit (God) was preparing my mind so that it would have the ability to understand what was to be shown me. You could say my interest was aroused in certain areas of physics, I had lots of questions, I was fully trained in electronics and electromagnetism but even in this area of physics there was unknown phenomena. A special interest lay in the area of gravitation, what was it? How and what was its purpose? Why did it interact with matter? Well to cut a long story short, the answers came to these questions when I least expected it. I was awed, shocked and so much fell into place all at once including the message behind scripture itself. It was explained to me: 1: Why virtually all atomic structure was electrically neutral. 2: Why all atomic particles everywhere had almost identical characteristics. 3: What a gravitation field is and why we cannot detect its electromagnetic properties. 4: How gravity drives the cosmos. 5: That the gravitational field is related to the Holy Spirit. Can you imagine how my legs buckled under me. I was gobsmacked... It changed my life, my thinking and my attitude to many things. One thing that was taught me was that this knowledge is protected and the principles relating to that protection is based on the individuals ability to believe. Mathew 13 verses 10-13: 10. And the disciples came and said to Him, "Why do You speak to them in parables?'' 11. He answered and said to them, "Because it has been given to you to know the mysteries of the kingdom of heaven, but to them it has not been given. 12. "For whoever has, to him more will be given, and he will have abundance; but whoever does not have, even what he has will be taken away from him. 13. "Therefore I speak to them in parables, because seeing they do not see, and hearing they do not hear, nor do they understand. You asked for my proof, well you got it, whether you believe it or not. As I said before: "The decision to believe or not is both personal and individual. Believers say one thing and non believers say another, in the final analysis its up to you the individual".
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Most of the land is already bountiful and full of food and most of the people are non aggressive except those that excessively use drugs or similar which is usually responsible for their conduct in that the steal and are actively violent when stealing, plus fanatic's or similar. Is what you ask about aggressive behavior bordering on removing free speech and governing under a dictatorship. The credit fact is based on the fact, I believe he is already doing enough for us. Should we not be capable of doing something for ourselves. Maybe we need a single government for the world or some other solution? My own senses have been touched by the Holy Spirit, I know what I know because of this. Thank you for the compliment and believe me I haven't taken the easy option.
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As I said before: "The decision to believe or not is both personal and individual. Believers say one thing and non believers say another, in the final analysis its up to you the individual". Who of you have had communication with the Holy Spirit? Who has had questions answered by the Holy Spirit? Who has been directly helped by the Holy Spirit? To him that has experienced this would you believe or receive him? No you wouldn't! God sent his perfected Son Jesus Christ. What more could he have done? The life force is the Holy Spirit. Jesus Christ was filled with the Holy Spirit which is the living God. Many did not believe this then and many do not believe this today. What would you have God do to prove he exists? Breath life into your newborn children? Feed you everyday? Give you a wonderful planet to live on? Give you light and warmth from the sun? Please name it? You claim to be able to reason, you claim to be intelligent human beings, please give credit where credit is due. Ecclesiastes 3 verse 1: To everything there is a season, a time for every purpose under heaven:
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Then why do you Judge and not forgive, Yet you associate me with linking to the conduct of others that have nothing to do with me. Your behavior is extremely questionable, totally unwilling to open discussion. You are opinionated to the point where as is written "seeing they do not see, and hearing they do not hear, nor do they understand".
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And this is not a personal attack?