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You presume a lot: I came with knowledge I wished to discuss and share. To convert you is not what I came here to do. This thread is about a question asked by 1=1: My answer also comes as a question to 1=1: If you where God and gave life to the children of the world, then discovered some of those children where disobedient denying that you ever existed and that you where just a mythical entity. Would you help them or would you only help those who believed in the existence of your spirit. Many of you have children, who has a child who would say to their parent what can I do for you? You would move heaven and earth for that child. So it is with God the Father for those that believe in Him, whether you yourself believe this or not. Even none believers cry out with there last breath saying "God help me", but why should He? In the wisdom of his bible in Mark 3 verses 28-29 He implies: 28. "Assuredly, I say to you, all sins will be forgiven the sons of men, and whatever blasphemies they may utter; 29. "but he who blasphemes against the Holy Spirit never has forgiveness, but is subject to eternal condemnation'' And for those who do not believe he said in Mathew 13 verse 13 where He states: "Therefore I speak to them in parables, because seeing they do not see, and hearing they do not hear, nor do they understand. The decision to believe or not is both personal and individual. Believers say one thing and non believers say another, in the final analysis its up to you the individual. 2Timothy 3 verses 16-17: 16. All Scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness, 17. that the man of God may be complete, thoroughly equipped for every good work. Healthy discussion is good for all, but many comments and statements that appear on these threads are not, these include overlooked personal attacks on myself because of my beliefs. Yet I am the one being reprimanded.

Something for you all to look forward to: 2Timothy chapter 3: 1. But know this, that in the last days perilous times will come: 2. For men will be lovers of themselves, lovers of money, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy, 3. unloving, unforgiving, slanderers, without self-control, brutal, despisers of good, 4. traitors, headstrong, haughty, lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God,

Did your parent ask you to clean up your mess in your bedroom? Fictional or not.

Do you want God to be a dictator over you? Removing your freedom of choice? John chapter 5 verse 22: "For the Father judges no one, but has committed all judgment to the Son, Mathew chapter 18 verse 18: "Assuredly, I say to you, whatever you bind on earth will be bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth will be loosed in heaven. What happens upon the earth is for us to police.

The scripture itself supports this see: Revelation chapter 21 verses 10-12+ 10. And he carried me away in the Spirit to a great and high mountain, and showed me the great city, the holy Jerusalem, descending out of heaven from God, 11. having the glory of God. And her light was like a most precious stone, like a jasper stone, clear as crystal. 12. Also she had a great and high wall with twelve gates, and twelve angels at the gates, and names written on them, which are the names of the twelve tribes of the children of Israel: Plus more and as being a son of God, only the Father knows the contents of my mind and my status. Read the scripture for yourself.

Please tell me where the Devil cannot be found. The Devil can enter you wherever you are, if you understand the Spirit as a force of life, then bad Spirit can enter you at anytime. Learn to recognize when this happens and half your problem is solved. The other half is resisting the temptation being offered. My apologies for not answering you before here: We probably just haven't learned to use it efficiently yet. Communication with the Spirit teaches us many skills we have not developed before.

The bible version I only use is the New King James Version. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_King_James_Version Its numerical numbering system uses seventy instead of the usual three score and ten. This is much easier to understand in the scientific arena. The church does not understand the depth of wisdom and knowledge contained within the scripture. Many Catholic sermons are still spoken in a Latin language that people do not understand. Why? Because it is a form of showing off and serves no purpose, only masking out the word of God. I assume here you need me to spell it out. Simply God powers the cosmos, in fact God is the cosmos, and ultimately wishes to tell you (his Sons) how he does this, how the cosmos works. How he also is your life force (Spirit). This Spirit is in the same image as God. 2Corinthians chapter 4 verse 4: whose minds the god of this age has blinded, who do not believe, lest the light of the gospel of the glory of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine on them. May I suggest you ask the Father yourself, because you will have many questions and need many answers. Vision often come when you sleep and not distracted by the world. There is a skill of vision interpretation that you will need to develop.

This is not a good way to do it. Try to understand the magnitude of the message I have supplied, you will unlikely hear it from another. I have repeated this quotation to help in your understanding of the purpose of God in his quest to educate all of us. As I said before we need to have the intelligence to reason with him. Proverbs chapter 2 1. My son, if you receive my words, and treasure my commands within you, 2. so that you incline your ear to wisdom, and apply your heart to understanding; 3. yes, if you cry out for discernment, and lift up your voice for understanding, 4. If you seek her as silver, and search for her as for hidden treasures; 5. then you will understand the fear of the Lord, and find the knowledge of God. 6. For the Lord gives wisdom; from His mouth come knowledge and understanding; 7. He stores up sound wisdom for the upright; He is a shield to those who walk uprightly; 8. He guards the paths of justice, and preserves the way of His saints. 9. Then you will understand righteousness and justice, equity and every good path. 10. When wisdom enters your heart, and knowledge is pleasant to your soul, 11. discretion will preserve you; Understanding will keep you,

All are tempted by the Devil. Mathew chapter 4 verse 1: Then Jesus was led up by the Spirit into the wilderness to be tempted by the devil. But to overcome you need to understand: Mathew chapter 4 verse 10: Then Jesus said to him, "Away with you, Satan! For it is written, `You shall worship the Lord your God, and Him only you shall serve.' '' Nevertheless you were stirring up the others: Refrain from such behavior: I am not aware of any sons of God who are atheist terrorists or cult leaders. One of us speaks the truth.

You have as much chance as I have in finding accurate information on this fact. I first read this information over 30 years ago in a book somewhere and since then not much has changed. The point in question is that the human brain and mind has abilities far beyond our understanding at this time. For this fact I am extremely grateful and because of this I have hope for the future of mankind. The difficulty involved in any form of education especially one as complex and complete as this ending up involving transparent power and energy is colossal. The need for basic social behavior education all the way to advanced cosmic power and energy that drives the universe. Such an immense task only a God could face and attempt. The biggest problem is man is much smarter than any God (so he thinks). Psalms 23 1. The Lord is my shepherd; I shall not want. 2. He makes me to lie down in green pastures; He leads me beside the still waters. 3. He restores my soul; He leads me in the paths of righteousness For His name's sake. 4. Yea, though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death, I will fear no evil; For You are with me; Your rod and Your staff, they comfort me. 5. You prepare a table before me in the presence of my enemies; You anoint my head with oil; My cup runs over. 6. Surely goodness and mercy shall follow me All the days of my life; And I will dwell in the house of the Lord Forever. You come from the power of God and when you leave here you return to where you came from, God. Most importantly you came for a reason. For Jesus it was to reveal the living God to us, the Spirit of Life itself: Mathew chapter 22 verses 41-44: 41. And He was withdrawn from them about a stone's throw, and He knelt down and prayed, 42. saying, "Father, if it is Your will, remove this cup from Me; nevertheless not My will, but Yours, be done.'' 43. Then an angel appeared to Him from heaven, strengthening Him. 44. And being in agony, He prayed more earnestly. And His sweat became like great drops of blood falling down to the ground. John chapter 17 verses 1-4 1. Jesus spoke these words, lifted up His eyes to heaven, and said: "Father, the hour has come. Glorify Your Son, that Your Son also may glorify You, 2. "as You have given Him authority over all flesh, that He should give eternal life to as many as You have given Him. 3. "And this is eternal life, that they may know You, the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom You have sent. 4. "I have glorified You on the earth. I have finished the work which You have given Me to do.

For many it is common knowledge about "The mind is only about 10% under your conscious control" see http://www.netplaces.com/psychic/what-is-psychic-ability/levels-of-consciousness.htm as an example. The church misrepresents the word of God and was the reason Christ was crucified as In have already told you. The church also does not accept me for the same reason. Ask yourself what was Peter's mistake here when he spoke to Jesus: Mathew chapter 16 verses 22-23: 22. Then Peter took Him aside and began to rebuke Him, saying, "Far be it from You, Lord; this shall not happen to You!'' 23. But He turned and said to Peter, "Get behind Me, Satan! You are an offense to Me, for you are not mindful of the things of God, but the things of men.'' Peter's mistake was simply he loved the man Jesus and not God: Mathew chapter 22 verses 36-38: 36. "Teacher, which is the great commandment in the law?'' 37. Jesus said to him, " `You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart, with all your soul, and with all your mind.' 38. "This is the first and great commandment. The word ALL means there is no room to love anything else. You seek and find what you love. When you find the knowledge of God you find he is the life of your brother, sister and neighbor. (Who can love God and at the same time hate his neighbor). Then the next commandment applies: Mathew chapter 22 verses 39: 39. "And the second is like it: `You shall love your neighbor as yourself.' Unfortunately the church often misrepresents the words of Jesus Christ in that they only teach to love thy neighbor ignoring the greatest commandment to love God. John chapter 13 verse 34: "A new commandment I give to you, that you love one another; as I have loved you, that you also love one another. So how did Jesus love us. He gave his life for us so that we would know the living God. As I said before, the church also does not like me. John chapter 15 verses 18-19: 18. "If the world hates you, you know that it hated Me before it hated you. 19. "If you were of the world, the world would love its own. Yet because you are not of the world, but I chose you out of the world, therefore the world hates you. 1John chapter 4 verse 6-9: 6. We are of God. He who knows God hears us; he who is not of God does not hear us. By this we know the spirit of truth and the spirit of error. 7. Beloved, let us love one another, for love is of God; and everyone who loves is born of God and knows God. 8. He who does not love does not know God, for God is love. True Godly people do not war or hate, Does not Satan stir up the people into aggression justifying any action. Tres Juicy watch out for the Devil for I have not ever spoken of violence. You are the one implying this evil. 1John chapter 3 verse 10: In this the children of God and the children of the devil are manifest: Whoever does not practice righteousness is not of God, nor is he who does not love his brother. Remember: As I said before "You find God is the life of your brother, sister and neighbor. (Who can love God and at the same time hate his brother). 1Peter chapter 2 verse 15: For this is the will of God, that by doing good you may put to silence the ignorance of foolish men You seem concerned about metal telepathy and similar activity, yet you happily use your cellphones for communication and your television transmissions for entertainment. But you cannot perceive the brain has this same capacity and more which you have not yet been trained to use. Do you not realize that the brain has the capacity to communicate with God (the cosmos), this is the basic principle behind praying. Because the brain is flesh can it not communicate? The cosmos and its motions (God) controls every atom within the universe. The atoms do not control God but interact with the cosmos (God) using his laws. These are the laws which God wishes to share with you (his children) such that this is the gift of your inheritance that you receive the knowledge of God. But who is listening? Who understands these things? Only he who has received? Who is this? The sons of God.

The mind is only about 10% under your conscious control. It is far more powerful than you can ever realize. Do you believe in mental telepathy or other similar activity? These comments you make only express your young childish outlook. I feel it is you who may be deluded. Did not God see you coming here. 2Thessalonians chapter 2 verses 11-13: 11. And for this reason God will send them strong delusion, that they should believe the lie, 12. that they all may be condemned who did not believe the truth but had pleasure in unrighteousness. 13. But we are bound to give thanks to God always for you, brethren beloved by the Lord, because God from the beginning chose you for salvation through sanctification by the Spirit and belief in the truth,

Did they not crucify Jesus because he told them exactly how it is? Mark chapter 15 verses 13-14: 13. So they cried out again, "Crucify Him!'' 14. Then Pilate said to them, "Why, what evil has He done?'' And they cried out more exceedingly, "Crucify Him!''

I speak from my own experience with the Father. When you start to read the bible the visions that explain its meaning will also start. You will not find the knowledge of God in the teachings of the churches. Mathew chapter 23 verse 13 "But woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! For you shut up the kingdom of heaven against men; for you neither go in yourselves, nor do you allow those who are entering to go in. In fact the whole chapter 23 is directed at the church leaders, which still apply today as they continue to seek there own glory. Do not be vain, just pray in your own homes out of the sight of others: Mathew chapter 6 verse 5-8 5. "And when you pray, you shall not be like the hypocrites. For they love to pray standing in the synagogues and on the corners of the streets, that they may be seen by men. Assuredly, I say to you, they have their reward. 6. "But you, when you pray, go into your room, and when you have shut your door, pray to your Father who is in the secret place; and your Father who sees in secret will reward you openly. 7. "But when you pray, do not use vain repetitions as the heathen do. For they think that they will be heard for their many words. 8. "Therefore do not be like them. For your Father knows the things you have need of before you ask Him. God has a very difficult job to teach you about his power and laws and this cannot happen in a single day. Everyone has different abilities and your own personal skills and abilities will be enhanced . Proverbs chapter 2 verses 6-7 6. For the Lord gives wisdom; from His mouth come knowledge and understanding; 7. He stores up sound wisdom for the upright; He is a shield to those who walk uprightly; Consider prayer as a form of mental telepathy between you and the cosmos which created you and resides in you.

Religion is a broad title used by many corrupt fanatics to murder and pillage in this world. Do not judge all because of the action of these terrorists. John chapter 7 verse 24 "Do not judge according to appearance, but judge with righteous judgment.'' The spirit (God) has the power to educate you directly. John chapter 14 verse 26 "But the Helper, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in My name, He will teach you all things, and bring to your remembrance all things that I said to you. John chapter 16 verse 7 "Nevertheless I tell you the truth. It is to your advantage that I go away; for if I do not go away, the Helper will not come to you; but if I depart, I will send Him to you. Many have visions and powerful dreams, but few understand them. Your mind has the ability to communicate directly with the spirit (a transceiver) and a picture is a thousand words. Do not ask your brother or neighbor about God, he does not know him and cannot tell you the answer you seek. Ask God directly. Please note: James chapter 4 verses 1-4: 1. Where do wars and fights come from among you? Do they not come from your desires for pleasure that war in your members? 2. You lust and do not have. You murder and covet and cannot obtain. You fight and war. Yet you do not have because you do not ask. 3. You ask and do not receive, because you ask amiss, that you may spend it on your pleasures.

You are not describing anything here but terrorism. The heavens will never be opened up to us fully until we know how it its laws function. Until now your scientists assume all energy is contained within atomic structure and attempts to take that atomic structure with the ship into space. There is already power in space and on the world that can be used help feed the hungry. Corruption prevails in the minds of men and prevents this knowledge of God and his gift of power to us occurring. Name me a honest man? If you want to learn about God, do not ask one another because its then the blind leading the blind. Luke chapter 6 verse 39 And He spoke a parable to them: "Can the blind lead the blind? Will they not both fall into the ditch? There is only one teacher given to us, and its not the church or its leaders. Mathew chapter 23 verses 8-10: 8. "But you, do not be called `Rabbi'; for One is your Teacher, the Christ, and you are all brethren. 9. "Do not call anyone on earth your father; for One is your Father, He who is in heaven. 10. "And do not be called teachers; for One is your Teacher, the Christ. Your links do nothing but to establish the confusion resulting from self misguided education resulting from having the wrong teacher.

I offer knowledge that you do not understand and highly unlikely to understand. A scientist before he has any success or breakthrough works diligently because he has both faith and a belief in his ability to achieve success. He works because he believes in what he is doing. So it is with the bible, disbelievers always fail because of their lack of faith and belief. They fail because they never try in the first place, whereas the faithful believer makes the effort and finds the knowledge of God. Proverbs chapter 2 verses 4-6: 4. If you seek her as silver, and search for her as for hidden treasures; 5. then you will understand the fear of the Lord, and find the knowledge of God. 6. For the Lord gives wisdom; from His mouth come knowledge and understanding; This is how the knowledge of God is protected. Your lack of faith and belief prevents you from obtaining it. 1Corinthians chapter 15 verse 34 Awake to righteousness, and do not sin; for some do not have the knowledge of God. I speak this to your shame. So to non believers let it be according to your belief. Continue to speak the words rubbish and crap for it is your contribution to the world.

What did you not understand about, "the structure of the genetic code it is a product of the movement of the earth using the spiral forces of the cosmos". Evolution is the also another word for the development of the structure of all life by the power referred to as God. The word miracles comes not from God but from none understanding by men. My explanation holds true.

1Corinthians chapter 2 verse 5 that your faith should not be in the wisdom of men but in the power of God. With some people, if you show them technology they do not understand the call it miraculous, magic or something similar. Often words are used to describe things in a similar term as a miracle. Some of the technology used today in the hospitals would have 2000 years ago have been described in this way. Man is a product of God, He has the ability to reproduce himself, how and why this ability occurs is by no accident. The structure of the genetic code it is a product of the movement of the earth using the spiral forces of the cosmos. This is the work of the power of God himself (the potter). Do you not see this? Or is it all just miraculous to you?

Proverbs chapter 2 verse 6 For the Lord gives wisdom; from His mouth come knowledge and understanding; Jeramiah chapter 3 verse 15 "And I will give you shepherds according to My heart, who will feed you with knowledge and understanding. Unfortunately the hardness of your heart prevents this knowledge and understanding from occurring. You are being wise in your own eyes. Proverbs chapter 3 verse 7 Do not be wise in your own eyes; fear the Lord and depart from evil.

God is Spirit, the fundamental of all scientific knowledge and understanding. His inheritance and gift to his children is all his knowledge and understanding, his laws that even he cannot break. The law of life itself. What more could God give you than the knowledge that is himself? What more could you ask the creator for?

If the power of God is not capable of providing the answer to those questions, What is? Physics can not provide a reasonable answer, in fact physicists still don't understand why these things are occurring. Is the following just a coincidence? Exodus chapter 12 verse 37 Then the children of Israel journeyed from Rameses to Succoth, about six hundred thousand men on foot, besides children. The earth along with the local galactic group moves through the heavens at 600,000 meters per second. God owns everything and everyone, such that he uses them to reveal his heavenly laws that constitute his cosmic transparent power. If the spirit of God did not exist you would not exist. Your very life's existence is a product of Spirit. Spirit is another word for fluid electromagnetic energy. Or should God have used the words of men to describe himself? If I am wrong please explain the cause of:

Why are all atoms composed of identical particles everywhere (electrons, protons, neutrons etc)? What controls atomic particle physical structure? What forms the structure of light itself? What controls our motion within the cosmos? What gives us the seasons, day and night etc? What is the structure of gravity? Is it your santa claus for grown ups? At this time you do not understand the purpose of scripture or that your heavenly Father is trying to reveal and show you these things. 1Corinthians chapter 4 verse 20 "For the kingdom of God is not in word but in power". 1John chapter 1 verse 5 "This is the message which we have heard from Him and declare to you, that God is light and in Him is no darkness at all". iNow - Your disbelief in God was already anticipated: Romans chapter 3 verses 3-4: 3. For what if some did not believe? Will their unbelief make the faithfulness of God without effect? 4. Certainly not! Indeed, let God be true but every man a liar. As it is written: "That You may be justified in Your words, and may overcome when You are judged.'' May I say to you, if you do not believe in God, do not boast about it. Others may see your weakness.

For those who have not understood the word of God, what its purpose is or where it is supposed to lead us. God sent his perfected Son Jesus Christ to explain it to us. The difficulty Jesus had was putting it into words we could understand at the time. The answer is much simpler than people realize. We all are sons and daughters of God, though few of us know this. See John chapter 10 verses 32-36 32. Jesus answered them, "Many good works I have shown you from My Father. For which of those works do you stone Me?'' 33. The Jews answered Him, saying, "For a good work we do not stone You, but for blasphemy, and because You, being a Man, make Yourself God.'' 34. Jesus answered them, "Is it not written in your law, `I said, "You are gods'' '? 35. "If He called them gods, to whom the word of God came (and the Scripture cannot be broken), 36. "do you say of Him whom the Father sanctified and sent into the world, `You are blaspheming,' because I said, `I am the Son of God'? Confirmed by: Romans chapter 8 verse 14. For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, these are sons of God. So how do we become effective and useful Sons of God being led by the Spirit: First we ask the question "who and what is God and his law?". This is the question that is the foundation of all things relating to God the Father. If you yourself don't know the Father, how can you teach and reveal him to others. This is the reason for the birth of Jesus, the one who could reveal God the Father to us. The lack of sin in Jesus was, God knew Jesus could see the Father and that Jesus devoted his whole being to revealing God the Father to the world. This revealing of God to the world is the will of the the Father from the beginning. John chapter 4 verses 23-24 23. "But the hour is coming, and now is, when the true worshipers will worship the Father in spirit and truth; for the Father is seeking such to worship Him. 24. "God is Spirit, and those who worship Him must worship in spirit and truth.'' John chapter 5 verse 30 "I can of Myself do nothing. As I hear, I judge; and My judgment is righteous, because I do not seek My own will but the will of the Father who sent Me. John chapter 6 verses 39-41 39. "This is the will of the Father who sent Me, that of all He has given Me I should lose nothing, but should raise it up at the last day. 40. "And this is the will of Him who sent Me, that everyone who sees the Son and believes in Him may have everlasting life; and I will raise him up at the last day.'' 41. The Jews then murmured against Him, because He said, "I am the bread which came down from heaven.'' So what is spirit and truth? God is the electromagnetic power that drives the Cosmos and powers every atom. John chapter 8 verses 12-14 12. Then Jesus spoke to them again, saying, "I am the light of the world. He who follows Me shall not walk in darkness, but have the light of life.'' 13. The Pharisees therefore said to Him, "You bear witness of Yourself; Your witness is not true.'' 14. Jesus answered and said to them, "Even if I bear witness of Myself, My witness is true, for I know where I came from and where I am going; but you do not know where I come from and where I am going. Jesus confirms this another way: John chapter 14 verses 10-11 10. "Do you not believe that I am in the Father, and the Father in Me? The words that I speak to you I do not speak on My own authority; but the Father who dwells in Me does the works. 11. "Believe Me that I am in the Father and the Father in Me, or else believe Me for the sake of the works themselves. For our benefit we need to understand where we came from before we were born and where we go to when we leave here. We are spirit beings in that we are born from God's almighty power and in the end we return to where we came from (God's almighty power). As Jesus said "Even if I bear witness of Myself, My witness is true, for I know where I came from and where I am going; but you do not know where I come from and where I am going". We heap up for ourselves many false ideas and misinterpretations but it is so simple in the end. As God laws power the cosmos, these laws are the inheritance gift of the living God to his children. What more can God the Father give his children than the laws of life itself. Physicists assume space is empty and all energy is stored in solid matter. Blissfully unaware of the fluid power that drives the living cosmos, the power that is our God.

Anikumar you asked: There are two ways of viewing our environment (called space-time). You asked "Doesn't Matter occupy space?" its just as valid if you asked "Doesn't space occupy matter?". Electromagnetic energy occupies our immediate environment, such that there is a point whereby solid matter becomes fluid matter. From this perspective we could say that our planet exists within the extended fluid body of our sun (A doughnut body). As is already known using electromagnetic radiation theory the doughnut becomes physically larger as it moves further away from the sun. This doughnut can have electromagnetic properties that actually create the illusion of a space-time. If this is the case then matter can utilize that doughnut electromagnetic energy in its own physical structure and the existence of the electromagnetic properties can be used by matter to move itself under an effect commonly referred to as a gravitational field. Whilst you say both space and time are both inert and have a non-physical entity, then having a non-physical entity they become invalid as physical descriptions of phenomena. Gravity on the other hand can then become electromagnetic in nature and we have a completely new ball game. Many assumptions held by physicists today maybe misleading us, such that the term vacuum of space creates the impression there is nothing there but emptiness. Space is a term defined as "A continuous area or expanse that is free, available, or unoccupied". This expanse if occupied is no longer free and should not be called space. The physical empirical electrical and magnetic constants confirm that the expanse called space-time actually has electromagnetic properties. From this point of view Anikumar, there is something in what you are trying to say.