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Now I have released my papers on blog http://spaceandconse...-and-consensus/ As I understand less denser space split by the movement of high denser mater. About paper you can ask question on the thread http://www.sciencefo...-and-consensus/ after reading full paper. ( I don't like to hijack Anilkumar's thread, this thread only related to space curve. You can ask questions on related thread after full reading of paper.)

Dear friends till now world was misunderstood natural phenomena. Now I have released my papers on the blog http://spaceandconse...-and-consensus/ After reading the papers please cast your vote for NO. I will not force anyone. If truth exist in my papers and your are in truth side. Then please cast your vote for NO. ("Even if majority of one, then also truth is truth"- M.K.Gandhi Majority of vote will not decide the truth. But, if majority of peoples are truth lovers and always in truthside, then majority of vote will decide thetruth. I think all scientific peoples aretruth lovers and always, they in truth side. And in science, there is not space for MBA YBN and IAURN peoples. )

Dear friends, As I have promised to you, now I have released my papers on the blog http://spaceandconse...-and-consensus/ and http://www.scribd.co...rse-With-URAIN/ After reading papers you will know that 1) Matter does not occupy space 2) Reason for expansion of space 3) This universe five standard existences 4) Hypothesis about origin of universe and neutron Members if you have any doubt please ask the question only after reading the paper. ( After reading paper please cast your vote on the thread http://www.sciencefo...occupies-space/ Iwill not force anyone for casting vote for 'NO'. If'truth' exist in my paper and if you are in truth side, then please cast yourvote for NO. "Even if majority of one, then alsotruth is truth"- M.K.Gandhi Majority of vote will not decide thetruth. But, if majority of peoples are truth lovers and always in truthside, then majority of vote will decide thetruth. I think all scientific peoples aretruth lovers and always, they in truth side. Andin science there is no space for IAURN, MBA YBN like peoples. IAURN= I am All U R Not, MBAYBN =my belonging is all, your belonging is not)

Dear Ajb Thank you for sharing your experience. Ajb, it is my first experience of publication. I don't know more about it. I heard that about "boson" Mr.Bose was sent his paper to one publication. Time was passed but that was not published. Then he was sent his papers to direct Einstein and Einstein focused on Bose paper. You know and also, I have shared in above posts that, when it (about space) was flashed to me. From that day, I have not shared this thing with any one (other than you). It is opposite to established science. Hence I was had fear about rediculing from the people, who listen this. I would like to remove the heavyness from my mind by releasing these things, which was kept from several years. And, You also said in your post that placing in seminars, blogs, and in forums will not effect for publishing in standard publications. Ajb we have done healthy discussion. I hope again we will do the good discussion Thank you.

Dear Anilkumar, I have contacted a publication forpublishing my writings. In reply they said that due to huge volume of articles,they need three months to give response for my proposal. Hence I have decided to publish mywritings in my blog. (edit) http://spaceandconsensus.wordpress.com/2012/02/17/hello-world/ Soon I will post it in blog and I will give a link hereand in the thread which was already started. I am ready to discuss about it. Excuse for delayed response. (I think forum has no objection to paste the link.)

Dear Ajb and Schrodinger Thanks for sharing your knowledge. Dear friends, Here I am trying to know 1) What is the property of the Charge? 2) How it becomes the property of charge? what is the reason behind it. In universe particles and things are exist itself and we only know how these are and what is the nature of these. From discovery or research we will not add (induce) any character or ability into them. I am trying to know natural reason behind the properties of charge. what is reason behind the properties. Why they behave like that. In above post I speculated that due to the difference in between mass one big particle (proton) has property of attraction and other has property of being attracted. Is it right? (Ajb says without these properties also charge exist. Exist OK, then what is that's property? existence must have some property.) I am asking this because I have one hypothesis and I am trying to know that is correct or wrong. which hypothesis? I will tell as early as possible. MigL, Present science consider photon as mass less particles. It's OK. But any existence have 'something' (mass/energy, charge) then only it will be existence. {For above sentence, I am keeping in mind that mass and energy ( energy =conserved charge, new definition from forum members ) are interchangeable. Hope you also keep it in mind.}

"so you can't have charge without mass" why opposite of this is not possible? i.e. Mass does not exist, without charge. In generally if we know the property of charge then, which attracts that is proton and which is attracted that is electron. If we think, why is the property of proton and electron like this, then proton has more mass compared to electron. Due to difference in mass these have different property. Therefore, do you not think, Mass must have some charge.

What is the charge ? What is its property? Is mass and charge relative? (Means mass must has charge and charge must has some mass)

I know this and Iwas planned to post here a statement of a great man when a proposal was placedto vote who is the not behaving in manner of scientific thinking (crack pot). That statement is "Even if majority ofone, then also truth is truth." Once I was went to a forum to discussExistence of God by my metaphysics theory. Then I was written a short poemabout truth and discussion. Truth and discussion “Discussion is themedium to gain knowledge Discussion is the medium to discover truth. Truth will not differ, If anyone comes to the discussion with not open mind Truth will not change, If anyone comes with preconceived opinion or prejudice Not giving response will shows, sensual organs are not open. If sensual organs open then also response is not given, Means it is, not an open mind with open sensual organs. ( Situation happenedin that forum to write these words) Closed mind will not differ the truth,will not change the truth. Only delayed, knowledge gaining foroneself will be delayed. Only delayed, focusing on truth for oneself will be delayed”. Anilkumar, your above statement shows that you don't know all kind of peoplesin this world. I think you know but you are forgetting that. Anilkumar, there is lot of different people exists in this world. Mainly I say about IAURN and MBA YBN peoples. IAURN peoples are those who always say I amAll U R Not, I am All U R Not…………………………… They know truth is not with them thenalso to defend themselves, they always say I am All U R Not, I am All U RNot…………………………… Second one is MBA YBN peoples these are with groups. These may belongs to any one of religion, belongs to any one ofcommunity, and belongs to any one of thinking. They always say their groupis correct and opposition is wrong. It is the main problem for disturbing thepeace of the world. These always say"My Belonging is All, Your Belonging is Not. "My Belongingis All, Your Belonging is Not…………………………… You put any proof oryour argument may be more logical they will not accept that. (Fallowed is a small stanza from ‘aboutme’ post. It was written, when I was writing about me.) Because, who knows more about himself only,will say I am ALL. And Whose ‘I’ is brighter; he will know moreabout himself. Whose ‘I’ is brighter, surrounding will bedarker If surrounding will darker, Thenhe does not know about others OR He had not willed to know others OR He had not willed to accept others. Who had not willed to accept others, Will say, ‘I am ALL U R NOT’. Who had not willed to accept others Will say, My belonging is all, yourbelonging is not. Anybody be against the truth for reason IAURNand MBA YBN. To defend themselves and to say they always correct, they will beagainst the truth. Any thought will reach wide acceptance only on its own strength. OK, but ittakes a lot of time to reach all over the world. At past time, when there is notechnology and media, it has taken the life time to reach any research all overthe world. Now is the time of information technology. There is lot of medium which reaches the message all over the worldwithin a second. While such technologies exist, then why not we use them forconvey the truth to all region of the world. Judge may be small or big he hasto accept the truth. Then only he is judge. Your all arguments are based on onescientific established fact for that reason it is not possible to say your’s iswrong by all extraordinary peoples. You are always using, that sciencebase to defend all your arguments. For you, that is the protector. For thatonly this big discussion has taking place. Hence, I think, if that base wrong proved by my writings, then it is good to taking acceptance from strongdefender of that that science base. Which you are using to defend all yourarguments. I am not rejecting todiscuss. But what happen when I discuss. If truth will in my writings then itwill get acceptance. After that matter will be closed. That will not reach toall regions of the worlds. Same thing happened when I discussed my metaphysicstheory on speculation. (By thinking adiscussion is same as theory if you give information about that then you willbe get notice.) First “acceptance” that eithertruth is exists in my writings or not. Next your English is good. Hence pleaseshow me if anything is wrong in my grammar and editing of the writings. Iexpect that you will write “why it is general interest of readers”. I hope you are not an IAURN or MBA YBN. Please say, it from your posts. (Anilkumar if you don’t mind I sayone thing that, softness which I was seen in your posts at starting (I wasappreciated for that see 3rd page 47th post ofthread), is not seeing now. ‘Softness’ in each other will makesthe friends. Something will be shared only withfriends and friends will only assist friend.)

Hello Anilkumar, In this thread you have said that you have not convinced the space curve, hence you raised theobjections. (For all your arguments you have one strong (more strong) base from science. Ajb knows which argument and we have made a good discussion about this. But he has some differences about considering space in physics. He is a naive person. As my request he will not disclose until it is published by a media. ) I had said that, fromme what will come that will convince you on this matter and may be you had known in my posts that, I was not had any intention to defeat you or insult you. Atfirst (space curve thread) your argument seemed to me as correct. Hence I wassaid that “anyone may accept a simple seeing man or not. But everyone has toaccept the truth.” While I was gone on thinking that was seemed as incorrect. Although, as I had said in previous posts ofthread that, it was flashed at my college days. But then I was not had perfection.Because, when rival arguments will come to my thinking then I was not had anysolution to that. Now I am perfect. If any argument will come to against mythinking, then I am ready to give solution to that. Dear Anil, I am readyto send my writings to you, if you not consider me as a rival. Please you have to say that you are open-mindedand if truth is in my writings then you will accept that (and encourage). Anilkumar, I have intendedto pass this message all over the world. Because present science contain thefalse thing. For this I am searching a media, from which it is able to reachall over the world. You are a goodcommunicator and you have more knowledge than me. For this I am expecting,suggestions and advise from you. If you are willing toassist me (for reaching this message all over the world) I will send my writingto you. Please PM youremail for this. ( I hope, the replywhich comes in the which manner, from you, will make me to send the writings.) Best regards URAIN

Dear Ajb Now I have sent my writings. It had needed few days for perfectness. But for not giving chance for misunderstanding I have sent it in hurry. Ammmm ! Please don't disappoint me.

Ajb Thanks for response. In my view it is simple thinking but solution to a major natural phenomena. Therefore I would like to publish it by a journal. If after discussion also it is published, then we will discuss it after publishing. Ajb, When I was in degree, I was preparing to a science essay competition. To making preparation, while I was studying the science books, Iwas shocked and I was very excited. I am uncontrolled for a while. As like "Eureka". Because then it was flashed to me. After knowing how much it is valuable. I stopped the writing essay and I have planned to make this as my Phd research subject. But unfortunately I was not continued the study. I am mainly intended to publish this with a journal. Because if it will published with a renowned journal then I will satisfy my self by taking it (publishing with journal) as like a Phd. Ajb, If you areready for reading I will send it to you, with that "other person" (I will saywho is he in Email). Please you have to give suggestion for language, writing manner, putting order of the subjects in my writings. From which it is elgible to publish by journal. ( If I contacted journals directly they also give a finishing touch. But I am not a renowned person and I have not standard degrees with me. Hence there is chance it willbe neglected and I don't like to take any chance.) I hope you will try to publish it by a journal. I request you for not disclosing it, until it is published by a renowned journal. Please send yourEmail address by PM. I will send my writings within one or two days. Thanks

Dear Anilkumar, I have not any personal differences with you. You are a good communicator. I have already said in my previous post that what will come from me that will convince you in this matter. I have requested for assistance from the members but no one given response to that. Now my writings are completed and I am contacting a person from other side. If you are in truth side (means if you are open minded), then you will not worry. If your are with your arguments or with your self side, then definitely you will worry. In present I only say that YOUR ARGUMENT WILL NOT STAND STABLY. They will be fail. ( If I posted my writing here, then it will not eligible to publish from a journal. Therefore please forgive me for not posting my writings in this forum.)

Use of this forum (? )

For fourth dimension, use the word 'spacetime' but you are using the word time. Is it ok?

Klaynos good reasoning. (If subjects (links) are related to the thread ? It must be reviewed )

"What is the space ?" Now it is main topic of discussion in everywhere. Now there are three views about space. 1) Space is notion 2) Space is entity and It is empty. 3) Space is entity and It is filled. Do experts say what is the space? And how it is? Is it empty or filled?

Please clear me. You are saying all matter placed in space. Next you say 'To place anything inside it - there should be emptiness. It is confusing, it will better if you explain by step by step with examples.

( Pls dont consider it as response to thread but only for your this post) Consideration of entities will change when we observe the things with wide sight and narrow sight. (Earth is flat, correct when walk or drive car, but when we see astronomical entities by telescope then it is sphere. While riding car we compare earth with car's round tyre. while seeing with telescope we compare it with other planets) Cosideration is different than Really how it is?

Dear Michel Here suppose anyone theory accepted at speculation discussion as fine, (In speculation P.P. Principle "Nothing has never existed. In any time." is accepted as fine.) Then also, Does he can't use his theory to answering the theory related topics in the forum ? If given response to related thread, then how it will be hijacking the thread? I am asking this, because I thought to give response to this thread. (This thread is also related to the P.P. Principle theory) But already I had a bad experiance. On thread http://www.scienceforums.net/topic/62236-theory-of-the-creation-of-everything/ ( I request you, for taking a glance on this thread.)

Hello Anilkumar, You are in truth side. You are not convinced the process of space curvature, therefore you raised the objection in the expectation, anyone may convince you. You are not rejecting the GR conclusion but you are in wait of convince. You are in truth side, because if anyone convince then you will accept it. You are faced so many extraordinary men inthis discussion. You faced the strong protest by members. Then also you havenot lost your patients. You had answered all, suitably without harming their FEELINGS. Einstein was the great scientist and his theory was appreciated by all over the world. When lot of well things come from a person, then it makes to believe that all things came from him are well. It is the natural thing. There is no mistake in it. Time takes to adjust with the truth. I haven't seen any pride in you by the thought,I have disproved the great scientist's conclusion and I have defeated the everyone. You have given the respect to everyone, who came in contact with you.I have seen ideology of 'I am not great' in you. (I think in daily life also you are like this.). This is the main principle of URAIN (U R All I am Not) also. But myself, I forget it, in sometimes. You raised the question about correctness of 'space curve'. It is natural thing of questioning, if we are not convinced by anything. But we have very careful in the questioning conclusion of a great scientist. You are aware about it. You have taken all the all precautions. I have also questioned the conservation law and invariance theorem. http://www.sciencefo...nservation-law/ Because it also does not says, for which reason conservation takesplace in this universe and it will not explain that if any thing newly appeared then, why not it is not a new creation? Anilkumar, I have not good communication skill like you and I am not wise as like you. But, I am confident that, from me what will come, that will convince you on this matter. When I was given response at first time, (to this related topic, space curve.) then I was doubtfully expressed my views. But, now by the grace of God, I become perfect in my understanding. I am sure it will convince you. I have a wish to publish my writings in a science journal like NATURE. Because from a journal it will reach the world wide readers and it is my wish. For convince, you have to wait until, it to be published. My writings are going on,it will take some time to be completed. (If here any journalists are there or anyone would like to help me to publish this, I request those that please help me to publish my writings in the journal.)