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I wish best of luck for your assumptions or speculations. (science may consider it) It was good (for discussion) if you had given reply from present science. Anyway you had said Aether is everywhere including outside the universe. Up-to where you consider Universe is exist and where outside of universe will start. (I mean boundary of universe)

Outside the Universeis the "same" as inside Do you clear me the word 'same' ? what is 'same'? please say in particular.

If any one try to answer for the question, which is existed outside the 'N' amount? (or outside the universe) then it will easy to explain about my theories principle.

Dear friend, I hope you are telling that vacuum exist outside the 'N' amount (or outside universe). Is not it? Please answer with yes or no

You had not read the discussion topic "drawback of conservation energy?" fully. There mainly two question remained without getting satisfied answer. 1) "Why" conservation takes place? 2) Is there any rule exist in present science, from which we are able to say with "perfection" (by not an assumption) that "this universe will be invariant (and conserved) always" . For first question swansont given answer as invariance rule. Second question is answered with "no". (You have to read this discussion once http://www.scienceforums.net/topic/58813-drawback-of-conservation-law/) Starting of this topic I have said that by "assumption" we may say this universe will invariant (conserved). But for saying with "perfection" we are not able. If you have positive answers for this question please give with reply. (My theory give satisfied answers to both questions.) Before I had planned that again I have to come here (sfn) for giving answer (what is exist outside universe?) for my above question. But I came here, I hope this will not divert the discussion and I request to the member again, for giving answer for my above question.

( I have searched "philosophy of science" section in this forum to start this topic. But I was not found. Topic is moved its ok.) Dear friend, This theory named as "Prem Parvathi principle theory". In this theory what I had said, that was on the basis of the principle (It is Metaphysics). I have not considered any entity (living or non living entity) as energy or matter or soul. I have considered these all as existences (which are being existed now). If we consider a non living thing as existence, then that is ok. But we consider that as a life, then that will be incorrect. The samething is not apply to living organism. If we consider a living organism as life then also, it will correct and if we consider life as existence then also it will be correct. (Any one will not reject, if I consider him as an existence and any evidence or proof is not required to consider ourselves as existence. Because we know we have existed, now.) I hope you had not read my theory. Therefore I am asking a question. I request you to try to answer as a response and please answer without reading my theory. (Those who were read the theory please do not give the answer. Who had not read the theory may give answer.) Conservation law says energy and matter changes from one form to another form. But total quantity of energy +matter is not changed. If I consider whole universe, entities quantity as 'N' amount then, what will be remain outside universe? (I will wait for some time. Any body may give answer. Actually it is my duty to answer your question but I am trying to know which answer will come from the person who had not read my theory.And it will be easy to explain you about conservation, if any one given answer.)

In physics forum's topic "drawback of conservation law?" we, the forum members were came to the conclusion that "By assumption we may say, this universe will be invariant. But now in science we are not able say 'this universe will always invariant" with a perfection. Now I had posted a theory named Prem Parvathi principle theory, from this theory we can perfectly say that this universe will be invariant always without a small doubt. Theory posted on blog www.baseforreincarnation.wordpress.com The main idea of this theory is, including living organism anything neither be created nor destroyed. Because the entities (living and non living) may exist at any time but we cant say these are not existed now. Because "not existing of anything is not possible" or "nothing has not existed in this universe" From this theory we know all entities which were existed at past, they have existed now also. In other side any new entity (living and non living) will not come to existence. This seems to be like law of conservation energy. But by law conservation energy, we can't say anything newly not created. Because if we ask why anything newly not created? then we will not get satisfied answer. (for this invariance may be the answer but for unknown galaxies this invariance also remain as a assumption) If members have any doubt and questions please post it. I will try to clear the doubt and questions.

In metaphysics theory (PREM PARVATHI PRINCIPLE THEORY) I have given a prediction about space. what you say about it ? Theory is on blog www.baseforreincarnation.wordpress.com That prediction is " something may be (energy) converting into space". (it is only my guess therefore I put it in prediction) What you say about it ?

Greetings Swansont and Greetings to all friends Now I have posted my theory in blog. From this theory you can perfectly say this world will be invariant, without using any assumptions or in lacking result of past experiments. This world may be contain number of unknown galaxies but without applying neother's theorem to unknown universe, you can say This universe had invariant at past. This universe has invariant at now. This universe will have invariant in future also. You can get the answer for the question, Why the conservation takes place? and what is the base for conservation ? If you have pdf then go to www.baseforreincarnation.wordpress.com Else www.scribd.com/doc/63851089

Dear friends thank you for giving response. In shortly I will post a principle, by which any one may say this universe is invariant with a perfect tone, without any assumption or beyond of measure effects from past. By this you will accept the unknown universe also invariant with a perfection. The url is http://baseforreincarnation.wordpress.com after posting article I will again inform you

Does neothers theorem's "invariance" will give any explanation about the expansion of the universe ? does it helps to know how universe is expanding?

Do any one help me, what Aguirre is saying? "This we will find out. 496=496 In der Ruhe liegt die Kraft Sig"

Following are the michel words "we assume the law of conservation of energy is applicable everywhere in the universe and as an extrapolation is also applicable at the universe as a whole.". michel said "we assume conservation law applicable every where". But you are saying "this law applicable every where" in the perfect tone. Do you know? there is something, by which, without any assumption or without using any measure effects from past, we can say this universe is invariant with perfect tone, the unknown galaxies or unknown universe too invariant.

Do you not think, I have said the same thing; what michel123456 said.

Take it with cool. Here I am expressing scientific thoughts only. I think science is a search of truth. Here I am not saying that this universe is varies. But the saying law of conservation energy applicable "everywhere" is only the belief. Because, if science accepts anything then, it first assume that, then after check it. By checking if it found correct with that individuals then only accept that, those assumptions are correct. Scientific thinking directly will not accept the unknowings by beliefs. For example it does not accept religion belief, that lives existence exist after death also. Then from this belief scientific thinkers will not accept that belief about invariant of unknown universe (unknown galaxies) is also correct. By past experience we may assume that this is applicable to everywhere in unidentified places also. But as per scientific thinking we can't give confirmation for saying unknown universe is also invariant.Please call the invariance of the universe is an assumption or this is belief,before getting a strong base for it.

From redshift we only know distance between galaxies increasing. But we will not know how this universe expanding? which force is making it to expand.

how we know this huge universe which containing countless galaxies is invariant?

Do you give any example? for understanding it in right manner. From reading it generally, I got that, if system is continuous equivalence (symmetry) then corresponding quantities whose values are conserved. or When a given transformation is applied then the nature of a quantity or property of function remains unchanged this is the invariance. Noethers theorem states that every case of invariance in physics there exist a unique conservation law. I am receiving answer from noethers theorem, for the question "why energy/mass conserved?" that, at first if system is in equivalence transformation then energy/mass conserved. Did it is saying, our universe is in continuous equivalence transformation.

About expanding of universe someone give balloon model. some one says expanding of universe is not correct. Actually what happening? If it expanding then how it possible?

If you think reincarnation is not come in science, leave it. I will not argue with you. For this don't send me from out of wise peoples. Other side i asked about conservation of living organism Fuzzwood replied & given a scientific reply. I received it. I am writing something, actually it is written. Now translating it to English for global readers. I am taking care about anything wrong not come from me. Fuzzwood said his scientific opinion. If you or any one knows about conservation of living organism scientifically pls reply. My another question, it may correct for another topic. But asking here. Science is developed from questioning natural phenomena. For example Why apple falling towards earth from plant ? ect...... Like this if we questioned, why energy/mass of matter conserved ? then what will be the answer. (For questioning this, I got answer for the question, How energy/matter conserved) One answer may be, energy neither created or destroyed therefore it conserved. Is there any other answer. Because I think it's not say correct natural phenomena. (I am not hiding a big secret, in shortly I will make it public. One link will paste here and I request you to read and send to content interested peoples)

Do you say that science accepts the living organism also conserved and there is a chance of reincarnation.

Law of conservation states that total amount of energy and matter in this universe will be conserved. science knows that living organism also contain or made of energy and matter but by this conservation law science does not says living organism also conserve. what is your thought about it ?