Dr.CWho

I'm still of the school that perpetual motion only qualifies as such if it can be placed in a zero g space and it continues to run without fuel. Anything here on the planet would either require gravity to work or would run in spite of it.

What is trolling? I make no claim to being a seasoned internet surfer. Some things are still greek to me.

And where exactly will these men do this farming? Reproductive cloning is out as of now, so will this be illegal? Is there a cash crop potential that will see dna research being carried out in the equivalent of backyard meth labs?

Gee, I'm speechless...

INow, ROFLMAO!!! Poor baby... we won't put you in jail for an innocent infraction as such... (Thanks for the laugh guys... I needed a good one.) JC, The US is publicized on the news as the worst offender. We can't mind our own business 'cause the whole world's got to be just like us. Now we are fighting a war over there. Whoever's the winner, we can't pay the cost. There's a monster on the loose. It's got our heads into the noose... and it just sits there watching... Are all these skinhead NWO guys for real or what? DrDNA, Since this is heading into that WTC stuff, get the video WTC: The first 24 hours and watch what really happened. The fuel splattered and ignited into a giant fireball that blew off the anodized aluminum and scorched the building. Yes, the engines and a shredded fuselage made it in, but most of the fuel stayed outside. This is corroborated by the impact lower on the South Tower that created a second fireball. Floor 51 was the perfect key area where a series of incindiary detonations could implode the core and drag the entire building down by funnelling it inward, similar to an extension ladder fully extended of which the palls were suddenly removed by some means. Had only the plane done the job, the top system would have ended up in the street, just as the builder Karl Koch III exclaimed as it was happening to his daughter who watched the whole event. In the torch situation, velocity separates the fuel from the nozzle while the escaping gases have an expansion valve effect, cooling the tip. A carburizing, acetylene flame does not burn hot enough to destroy the alloy tip. If you weld, certainly you are aware of the separation between the flame and the tip when the oxygen pressure is increased. There has been the statement about 90 nukes not having the potential to destroy the world. Destroying the world has a relative aspect to it, same as the flood of Noah. Most scientists agree that a global flood never occurred. The world was, in their opinion, destroyed on a local basis. 90 (plus) nukes have a good deal of damage potential, but that is only considering them being used "as is." They could be disassembled and used to initiate a series of "supers." Another question in all of this arises: Time travel. Could we unconscionably be invaded by time agents from the future without it being evident except in events like the WTC? The WTC demolition wreaks of the same type diversion as Hitler burning the Reichstag and blaming it on the communists in Russia. It would seem there would be anti-time agents as well. The paradoxical question is does it all change suddenly to a skewed time-line and the common man or common scientist would have no idea a skew actually occurred? It would all seem like normal history to all but the time traveler. Ya think? Dr. CWho

I would, if I were you, put "Floating Frogs" in Google's search and then discuss diamagnetics...

DrDNA, Your addressing a man who does more than just think up ideas and dream of inventions. If you looked at some other posts I've made, you'll find I'm totally capable of building machines from just about anything, i.e. a Blanchard grinder... I weld. Not the best, but I can do a nice vertical as long as I'm not experiencing vertigo... There's a time factor involved... also, your strawman is built around a factor I didn't include: pre-heating. Burgers, as in HAM-burgers, don't equate to cows? Well... you do claim to be an insane-alien Every cigarette uncontained is a nail in all our coffins. I do agree that the nukes are just as likely to fly in a week or two... of course the nukers won't nuke a mind they desperately need. I love this to a degree, but the purturbations are sometimes not amusing... There are of course certain issues I'm not at liberty to discuss. 2012... seems like a few events should be happening before that... maybe they already have and those of us who find some difficulties remembering the 60's didn't realize when those bowls of wrath were happening. Helter Skelter... One thing that's getting old is having to log in a second time whenever I post... Hassles make a forum suck...

Any reliable sources? How's about 60 minutes? Perhaps you aren't aware that hamburgers are from cow (cow patties? ) It's been public knowledge for many years that methane is a chief contributor to global warming and every cow belches and otherwise passes about 400 cubic feet of methane every day. Pigs are just as bad. If you have any question about that, just visit a hog confinement barn or a slaughterhouse. Hmmm... I was about to post a pic of an underground river in Moscow, but learned we need to list the url here... maybe next time. I've been giving all this some thought, concerning the nukes, and remembered a fellow who once told me that the easiest way to destroy a town is to hi-jack a gasoline tanker and pump all the gas into a sewer inlet, with a detonator attached that goes off if the hose is removed or the flow of gas stops... This was a Purdue professor and we were talking in a local gyro hangout. This was also about the time a major bombing attempt had been made on Lafayette's courthouse. That bothered me enough to leave that town and never return. What kept coming up in my mind was the biblical story of Sodom and Gomorah. Raining burning sulfur or brimstone sounds like a comet impact. Maybe we need to be seeing if there are actually 10 good people in every town... A bunch of nukes... 2012... I've heard others saying they think the "Jericho" scenario is less than 5 years away. I've always thought about ten, but who am I? I'm not certain how much I'll be here anymore. I came with the idea of discussing new ideas, but I've found a real lack of imagination in quite a few of the so-called "authorities." One guy up there was saying how he hates life. I felt as though I should ask if he's okay and if he wants to talk about that...

Temper, temper... Close it if you like. Of course that would be interpreted as a victory in my opinion, because it reflects a cowardly despotism that underlies exactly what Nietzche was depicting. It would reflect a discussion you can't win because you aren't able to provide any more counter references and your only ammunition is your ability to call me a liar. I stated originally that these were observations and the one I mentioned depicted an ARB type's response to his self inflicted demise. I referenced Karl Menninger's "Man Against Himself." If you are what you claim to be in Psyche, then this could have led into more similar situations and results that occur in industry that a shrink would never see in a hospital or clinical environment. Instead of assessing the nature of the events, you assess me (wrongly) as angry. What do you expect? I'm going to pull up references to industrial situations from a world of clinical evaluations? I'm certain if I dig deeply again into Nietzche's work, I'll find something to bring up, but as of now it seems a waste of time. Whether I'm brilliant or not isn't the point. Why does that possibility seem to bother you?

iNOW, Actually I do have a sharp axe that's great for chopping roots around "this old house." The kind of axe I prefer is a Strat hooked to a good Marshall or Peavy How many of you people really think that two 8-18 chrome-moly steel wing struts 196 feet in span are going to win against 63, 1050 structural steel, columns and some slabs of concrete 70 feet deep? This is the major question: Why would someone want to kill perhaps 100 million Americans? What would they gain? Supporting question: Is anyone familiar with the network of underground rivers in North America especially? I've been trying to see if there are any that connect Helmsdel N.J. to anywhere else and mostly if any of those river tubes travel beneath the bedrock of the Atlantic coast. What would global warming, should it go rapidly beyond the point of no return, do to these river tubes? It seems that if we lost a few hundred feet of the coast line they would begin to fill again, some of them being nearly dry after 70 million years of depletion. As of now it is actually possible to set up a complex in some of them. If global warming escalates, that would all go down the tubes... (pun not really intended...) 90 tactical nukes could destroy enough of the population in America to take a major bite out of greenhouse gas production. America is the worst offender with its love of the automobile and hamburgers...

I don't think anybody sees planets directly in any telescope. So? What's the point? You discount the Hubble views or the data interpretations?

I imagine it all resides in what one chooses to believe for the individual, nonetheless there is an absolute truth. I haven't seen any answers to my earlier question regarding deja vu's. There is still a discussion awaited concerning the nukes. That's serious business and I've provided a link to discuss exactly that. It turns into a WTC discussion and it has been mentioned this is not the place for it, still I'd like to think we'll all be around to have truly scientific discussions in the not-too-distant-future... or at least those of us who do more than sit in an armchair and talk with no focus on solutions...

You contradicted yourself: You say the "Knight's move thinking" has nothing to do with chess, yet refer to it as a metaphor of a chess move. Fascinating... Regarding Nietzche: All those exemplified are subscribers to Nietzcheism. The quest for perfection regardless of the cost. Why is it some so-called "authorities" can only postulate their "superior knowledge" by making an attack through implication upon imaginative thinkers that they are liars? In 1994 the press discounted many observations of the SL-9 impacts by amateur astronomers even though the comet fragments were discovered by an amateur astronomer. At first I respected your opinion, but now I find it nothing short of ad hoc "ring baloney." I imagine anal retentive thinking would be insulted when it is exposed...

Perhaps you need someone to check your math concerning the concept I've presented. As of this point I simply see a lack of imagination, of course few "authorities" I've encountered seem to have much beyond 2 dimensional "stick people."

Then why did you bring up the obviously comparable "knight's move?" If someone doesn't wish to waste their time on someone else's hyperbola, it becomes relevant to the other person's straw man. I notice you failed to comment about Manson and the rest mentioned. You go right back to building the strawman to focus on the person doing the posting. I notice you claim to be a Ph.D. in your profile. If that is true, you must have earned it by completing the minimum requirements in lieu of some profound findings... One good strawman deserves another for compatible company Has it ever occurred to you that some good physics and biochemistry combined just might offer the means someday to enhance a person's mental capacity or perhaps even to reverse aging? Do you really thing Risperdal and Paxil, et hoc genus omne, are the best solutions when it is being found that sometimes they drive people to suicide? Dr. CWho

JohnB, I'll look for a link, nonetheless it can be found in a Hubble album entitled "The Hubble Space Telescope" (if I recall correctly) available at most public libraries. Incredible? I find it fascinating... Dr. CWho

An appeal to ignorance, with argument from authority thrown in. In your opinion I imagine... In reality, not. So far I can't find the argument from a so-called authority... What I see is someone building a strawman from a post that was an invite to a think tank. Even the rings of Saturn were/are thought to defy thermodynamics... (Ref: The Planets)

Who is to say there isn't a successive frame of many BB's every one of our nano-seconds? (Ref: Multiversal Truths... I'll have to look up the link to it, perhaps in the Inspire database...) From the frame of reference of an observer in motion around a rotating universe, the universe would seem static in rotation, though it could be perceived as expanding. Rotation beyond a certain radius would be undetectable because it would out of synch with us. Dr. CWho

http://groups.msn.com/RaisingIndiana21stCenturySurvivalDiscussions The area quoted in magenta is from post #174. (I'm not such an avid "surfer" that I have that PHP function under control yet... ) The group above is a better place to discuss political issues and conspiracy theories. The question about the nukes will greet you with a picture of our own backpack nukes. The so-called "suitcase" nukes are more like a fat guitar case and pack a 5 Kton whollup. The backpacks range from 10Kton to 15 Kton. More than Heroshima and Nagasaki combined (Little Boy & Fat Man) I personally don't believe the "sooth saying" that the Biblical prophecies are something akin to a nursery rhyme. I've only begun the site above, so it's open to suggestion a bit. I probably won't elaborate on any conspiracy theories here... Dr. CWho

I know the Hubble has shown some spectacular shots of star systems forming within the Orion Nebula. One shows the star and planets already formed. Just below it there's a new forming star system that shows the planets, but the star hasn't ignited as of then. It seems the smaller bodies cool, coalesce and radiate photons befoer the star does. That's NASA's work. Seems viable from my frame of reference. Dr. CWho

So what is this "beast" that Revelation keeps talking about? Is it a specific kingdom, or is something more allegorical in mind? What is the best way to divide and conquer? Cut off communications. A telecom company with vast power and resources could totally confound exactly that if it were "all around the world." Essentially that telecom would become "your world delivered to hell in a handbasket..." Lucent was horse trading fiber optics with the Russians in the 1990's about the same time the nukes were reported missing. Weird question this might seem. How many in here are familiar with the plethora of underground rivers around the planet? There are some in the outback. A vast number in Kentucky. Does anyone know of any in New Jersey? (I'm too busy to look in Google at the moment. Perhaps next time I log on...) I'll get to the reason of this after some responses. I might even begin another thread in here about some "speculations" involving the same... Consider where that show "Jericho" comes from. CBS. Time-Warner owns CBS. Lucent, through corporate children owns 25% (or more now perhaps) of Time-Warner. I don't know if this is the right place to discuss this. Will the forum allow a link to a site where I can be more descript about this "conspiracy theory?" Dr. CWho

Assertion? Maybe you missed the question mark in the sentence you quoted. I want to remind you that I also requested some ideas from others. Are you arguing that the ascending column has thermodynamic problems? If so, the best I can offer is a trip to Anderson in the not-so-distant future where I can show you how that process does in fact work. The question I'm mulling over is the best method to load the buoys at the bottom of the ascending column. A new variation I've come up with should generate 2 to 4 times the ascending column's output with 2 descending columns. Remember these are objects in freefall... Dr. CWho

Nietzche's philosophies seem to attract anal retentives that show up, not unlike what DAK depicted, as those who cannot stand imperfection as their frame of reference defines it. Examples: Hitler, Mussolini, Charles Manson... The knight is an effective game piece. It can jump over "ring baloney."

POM, Those are simply opinions of theologians who truly want to discount prophecy. I'm of the opinion that prophecy involves time travel of images through the pineal body within our brains. Consider how that gland might compare to a machine using Casimir Negative Energy. Have you ever known someone who has described a deja vu that there was no way the person could have had the knowledge of a certain image till some twenty years in their future? Most deja vu's can be dismissed as memory lapses or even genetic memory at the further stretch of the imagination. There are a few that cannot be explained as such. In my opinion, this is how "visions" occur and some are more prone toward such reception of images cast backwards than others. Just some food for thought. Dr. CWho

Didn't Linus Pauling demonstrate how the propagation of bacteria also violates the 2nd Law, still bacteria are real? Can you define thermodynamics in a void of infinite radius?