Dr.CWho

Has anyone read the book of Isaiah? The Revelation of John? Both indicate a long period of war, then a final battle and a Golden Age. The millenium would come first so we should have at least another thousand years. That gives some credibility to Nostrodamus's prediction of the end occurring into the 3rd millenium A.D., still consider the movie "Apocalypse Now." The wars and plagues and floods and quakes have been happening all around us. Global warming is predicted also, but consider the issue of over 90 tactical nukes missing from the Russian arsenal. Putin denies it now, but that is easily a ploy to make Russia seem like less of boobs for allowing it to happen. Polar shift? Good question...

It's not about me, Glider. Get used to it and yes you are building a strawman. I've provided quite a few references outside of my own observations. Maybe I should discuss the nature of Nietzsche... Dak, Back to you a bit earlier than thought... The thought about the anal stage of development is interesting. Perhaps Freud isn't as obsolete as some of the modern "drug pushers" think. The further of that thinking relates, I would venture, to the nature of one's toilet training. What do you think happens when a child is forced to learn the potty mission at barely one year? It seems you are referring to normal development and that would make me question kids at four or six that are still in diapers. It seems that either the forced or the totally free-form method would have some negative ramifications in later life. It seems the former would be forced to grow up too quick or perhaps might resent the prodding parent's gender, where the latter would be constantly expecting everything handed out on a silver platter. An example would be John Lennon's second child. (I don't remember his name... not Julian; Yoko's child) I haven't followed anything beyond Goldman's book, so if you know more, maybe we could learn from such. Note to those in question of this issue: I'm leaving the religion out of this from here forward. The references I made were to finish the original comparison. There's never any prejudice or "recruiting" of such here, but I hope it can be read into all of this that I respect people's rights to freedom of speech and religion. (I noted a "welcome to creationists" somewhere and I subscribe to such and firmly believe the Bible, still I believe that often the word "day" defines "era" and somewhere I read in Hebrew it can also mean "year.") 'Nuff said there...

Interesting, Dak... (I'm about out of time today, so I'll respond more in depth in a few days...) Glider, The problem is you are building a strawman out of my intended meanings of the post. The thread is not about me, but you are arming your strawman in just that way. Now the thread is becooming about you. I'll repeat: These are observations. I'm a pretty happy camper about most things... so worry about the discussion...

The Casimir Effect... I have some concepts for just such a device that I keep mostly to myself. I want to remind the group that I wanted input as to whether this would be patentable more than the violation of thermodynamics. The forces that drive it are buoyancy and freefall. The challenge is to submerge the bubbles as a stream or into a cache of ascending bubbles. Regarding the thermodynamics violations, who can truly define the violation? The question that comes to mind about "this house..." statement, is if this is not a place to discuss possibilities to include the death of obsolete standard models, even of thermodynamics, then what is it here for? The growth of thermodynamics put caloric theory to death. Thermodynamics laws may not apply to areas of the universe that we cannot even detect. Are we so cowardly that we fear discussing something for which the Pope might put us on house arrest? Maybe some are that way, but not this injun...

Possible Solution to Energy Problem Reducing Global Warming I had mentioned a bit earlier that I have a concept for an energy source that I have already proven in principle. We need ideas desperately for stationary energy sources that don’t overly energize our atmosphere with emf or a runaway greenhouse effect. I encourage people to stop making meat eating babies and half the cure is there. Every meat eating person requires about 100,000 cubic feet of methane and other greenhouse gases to be generated during the livestock production it takes to feed them EVERY YEAR. That’s about 600,000,000,000 cubic feet of methane every year. Other key emission areas are automotive energy production. I have what may be an answer for the stationary energy that goes to our homes and it may qualify as perpetual motion, in fact it’s a wonder this wasn’t thought of earlier. Maybe because oil seemed such a good thing... This much I have tested with crude models and am currently building a “streamlined” demonstrator with LEDs that shows how a small stack of magnets enclosed in a sealed plastic bubble will ascend rapidly through a series of coils, producing a current. I use urethane plastic coil forms on a waxed cylinder with a slight draft for separation. No iron cores. No hysteresis. Single conductor 18 gage enameled magnet wire. I left room for fluid displacement and field zone separation by supporting the coils with plastic rods at the quadrants of the cylinder formed, then removed the excess plastic between the individual coils, this way no resistance to buoyancy is present beyond atmospheric pressure. Reminding you this model demonstrates a principle, not my interpretation of the Rube Goldberg that can use this principle, along with gravity for potential and kinetic energy, to produce energy as a direct transduction of the work of buoyancy, then again as mechanical energy or possibly again into electromagnetic energy to displace its own weight and mass into the base of the buoyancy column. The above model only demonstrates the conversion of buoyancy potential into electric energy. What I’m putting out to this group is something of a challenge to come up with methods to return the bubble to the base of the column. I’ve come up with a few. In all cases one must remember this will be a stream of host bubbles. I separate them by reversing poles every other bubble. One method I’ve been mulling over is a revolving chamber valve. To equalize the hydraulic pressure of the buoyancy column’s water level, one only has to displace the water volume of the intersection of the sphere with a cylinder of equal spacial dimensions. The bubbles must be resilient to the pressure in the entire column, of course this pressure diminishes as the stream of bubbles fills more of the column’s volume with spheres. The work to displace the next bubble into the column should take no more than the potential drop of 5 meters, so the taller and bigger the better the acceleration. My model is still crude because it uses one coil layer as of now to measure just what these 3cm ceramic magnets will do. They appear to have a useful field depth of about 2.5cm from center. The tighter the bubble symmetry, the better this can be capitalized upon. Volume works well with a 2:1 air to magnet ratio. I’m not interested in making money off this idea. I have other concepts and means for that. We need a source of energy that uses the natural forces offered by this planet and its gravity. I call this Hydrostatic Generation. Maybe someone out there has a better terminology. This is not a free lunch it’s just a slave made from two natural processes, buoyancy and gravity. I’m not worried about losing money to altruism. There certainly can be no 100% altruism because everyone gets some kind of pay off for just about everything they do, even if that pay off is in canonization. I have another device concept that essentially would convert a 327, for example, into an impulse fusion driven engine. That, would be beyond my rights to test at my research facility, but probably not Ball State and certainly not Purdue or University of Michigan if I want to hang out around Ann Arbor or Lafayette some more. I could build it here, but I couldn’t even order tritium to make some preliminary tests of what amounts to an energy injector. What I can play with is lithium and a small cyclotron of about 50 amps power consumption. That’s about like using a Lincoln welder in your garage or an electric range in your kitchen. I may use steam as a coolant and mechanical buffer. Any questions, I always consult the Center for Radiological Disease Control CRDC. Some things you need a license for. I first encountered them designing laser light shows for a beverage company. These are things to keep in mind whether you are an amateur or pro in the field. Aside from the fusion power car-(Yes. It could be made safe.)-that-ends-all-emissions diversion, the Hydrostatic Generator has potential. This could be an answer to our need for fossil fuel stationary energy. Those of us that contribute to the furthered mechanical design(s) should naturally gain the appropriate recognition or perhaps “conceptionist’s” rights. Just so you don’t think I’m trolling for personal gain, here are my abstracted mechanical concepts for the displacement phase. 1. Revolving Chamber Valve. This delivers a pre-flooded chamber to a release bay and chokes off the clearance area of descending water pressure once buoyancy has launched the sphere beyond its widest radius. Some leakage would occur as the valve aperture closes but not enough to equal the volume displaced by the mass of the magnets. 2. A cache of submersed spheres admitted in alternating polar order. This way the bubbles are just waiting in line to be sorted into the upward stream of bubbles. 3. Descending momentum submergence trap system. The sphere’s buoyancy is overtaken by gravitational acceleration and the sphere plunges through an aperture into submersion, then is towed down to the base of the ascending column. (This I’ve made some tests.) Towing is a simple process and it is conceivable that the energy developed around the magnet spheres in free fall could be used to create a vortex capable of the same effect. For a larger generator, the spheres can be polycarbonate sealed inside a silicone outer layer. Remember resilience is important. The spheres would cradle the magnet body between centralized trunnions slung to always have a low center of gravity. This allows the spheres to roll off the top of the ascending column where more permanent magnets can influence the spheres to sort by top pole. The next bubble completes ejecting the preceding bubble like poles repelling below and sorter magnets attracting from above the column. A cousin to the “shake-shake” flashlight... Maybe some of you have some other better ideas for alternative energy. I like this one because you just have to keep it topped off with water. The question is, whatever the chosen return method, this half thought-half real world device might qualify as perpetual motion. I’ve always been of the understanding that perpetual motion means the parts are also eternal, so that may disqualify it enough to satisfy the patent office. You can’t patent perpetual motion. You can, however, patent design. What if the design incorporates a perpetual motion device? Can it still be patented as a design? There it is. Chew it up and spit it out if you like. Or... Try it. If you like it, try it twice. Dr. CWho

It's amazing to read your drivel that exhibits not only failure to properly comprehend what I'm saying, but it's laughable when now you want to pigeon-hole me into your own label. It's just too bad if your armchair psychoanalysis failed this time. Regarding me, you haven't a clue. I'm attempting to give some rebuttal onto self-myopathic eyes. So far you have failed to provide an argument against the subject and that seems to make you so angry that if you can't mount the subject attempt to mount the poster. Not workin' here... Maybe this will give you more to work with. Stuff people have a right to be angry about, but getting angry just puts a body in a bad mood... : Hey, Glider, I see the forums unfortunately allow vulgarity. What about free speech? Why does someone always have to be angry in order for them to speak out? Isn’t it enough to be affected by some injustice or to watch it happen to others? Couldn’t it be that some initial anger has dissipated and that a person simply wants change? I have no reason to be angry at much of anything save perhaps occasionally ruining dinner if the ingredients cost enough. Getting fired usually is a form of success in my book. It means I angered the other guy so much he couldn’t think straight, then eventually regrets it. Somewhere along the line that guy goes home and hates it. I love to go home. There’s usually a lot of hands on work to be done there or in the research facility or shop. Being home frees my time for other opportunities. If someone wants a urethane pattern or mold made to .0015 they come see me. If they need a Blanchard grinder cheaper they come see me... If they want a house designed, they come see me, if they want to know where a species resides within or without the standard deviation, they come see me... Some come for chess, some discussion about some things, (such as anal retentiveness as a psyche problem leading to more than one psychosomatic illness to include some forms of depression i.e. chronic sadness and, with somewhat less consensus among respectable voices, schizophrenia or maybe about time and space) and some for bouillabaisse or just to see what’s up with my research. Presently I have developed an emulsion that extracts the visual spectral molecule of (so far about 30) some species of flora, most intense in the petal. This means resurrecting some really impressive hues that can be tweaked with certain Lewis reagents or metals in a catalytic usage to enhance or interrupt the reaction at a certain point. I have a whole series of blues from a common local plant. I have an aluminum acid red and will be continuing on to (if all goes anything like the rest from last year) reds from berries and cherries that should be compatible with human flesh. The gals out there should thank me, because right now the reds in kool-aid and women’s make-up among other things is from a South American bug’s blood. Cocchinea. Wish me luck gals that I can make an FD&C worthy replacement. All seems promising thus far... No. I’m not angry (in fact I think most social atrocities have become hilarious). Most ill founded insults and inappropriate rhetoric just makes me laugh at the purveyors of such though I mostly resist the urge to lower myself to the defamers’ level and slap back. God granted me the right type of understanding and mixture of circumstances to seed the mother of invention frequently. I take notes. I act accordingly. So what’s the matter with all these cowards in the scientific fields who can’t stand up to their bosses? Can’t get over the “gotta-have-a-job” (GHAJ) syndrome? Fear of the boss? Just that I guess. Both courage and cowardice have their own positive and negative rewards, but dauntless arrogance surely will have tacit requiem eagerly awaiting attention. From the many examples I’ve seen, ARB types are rarely awaited by anything genuine. Anal retention, as a discussion here, truly was spawned from another post I was reading that seemed to inquire about the issue. I simply thought it was ironic because just a bit earlier someone (an LPN) who was first hand aware of some of the examples I gave, was agreeing with my hypothesis that ARB should be classified as a mental illness. This forum is only a broader slice of opinion and I’m curious as to the opinions of others about ARB as a mental illness. ARB types may have difficulty responding simply because they remain in denial. Perhaps this is the first time anyone presented such a theory (theory because it has yet to be nullified.) Glider, you say “no”, with a reasonable argument. Honestly I haven’t even taken the time to check out your profile, but you ask who am I? Someone who has interned enough by having to overlap into the areas of psychology in industrial situations to design manufacturing methods around a variety of personality clashes and where two big security guards armed with tazers and chlorpromazine injections aren’t available. Ergonomics must include the worker’s peace of working mind. An engineer has to decide when to eliminate some or all of the human factors, so in reality has to position a working team cooperatively. It’s like being an analyst working with a dysfunctional family. Factories don’t have quiet rooms, they have unemployment lines, so typical employees have a lot bottled up inside them. Jobs that reduce this bottled up tension keep employees longer. That should be a clue in itself. Correcting the cause of a situation eventually leads to a healing. Nortriptylene and Paroxetine only diverts thinking and perhaps only for a while... A shrink who would prescribe it for a child should be removed from the gene pool... Most shrinks get their observations in mental hospitals or in one hour sessions. The former is the least in touch with the real world, where the latter is possibly somewhat less wrought with fiction. On the job or at home are where people show their metal. ARB types show it by hiding it. (And consensus is still that ARB is ok...?) Does ARB mean a*****e? It doesn’t have to. Does ARB mean someone who fears letting go of their own security to check on another’s? It doesn’t have to. Does it mean life with an obfuscated ability to reject the unethical? (Think about that a moment...) Not if the ARB type learns to take responsibility and courageously carry the umbrage of just what their fears have done not just to others but to themselves as well. I would think there should be a good medication for ARB. Booze seems to help some ARB types come out of their shells or even closets. Maybe chloral? Questioning religions? Ask about Jonestown or Waco or Heaven’s Gate or Heritage USA and Jim Bakker or Anton LeVay or kids gone postal over religion or ask Irshaad Manji “Why question religions?” or, I suppose, Mel Gibson. The latter of those directing a film that depicts the results of anal retentive behavior on the religious front in the Pharasees. Some who are a little spunkier fight to limit “the anal retentive human factor” in themselves... or break out of it completely... to thumb their nose at the nay sayers and rise to their heart’s desire... (I suppose “Flashdance” should be heard here in the background...) Perhaps what we should question is not a person’s color but the color of their religion. Is it benign or malevolent ? White or black? Chauvinist or egalitarian? Outreaching or... well, anal retentive. Organized or free? Violent or peaceful? America is based upon religious freedom and upon liberty. So why are there priests and policemen? Ah! But talking of America or any of those other people is eponymous... Eponymous references were quasi-frowned-upon somewhere... It’s a sin now to say something that amounts to saying “hey I noticed you are from such and such...” in some other wording? Some places have laughable histories or monuments, efforts, et hoc genus omne. Eventually East Berlin’s wall came down (to Pink Floyd no less...) If one considers that China, prior to Westerners colonizing, thought the world was flat till the late 1700's, but also that it was foursquare and China was the center of the universe. Many Chinese drew a sigh of relief when Mao died and the “Long March” pretty much died with him. The problem now is trusting their products... it’s tough to make jokes about toddlers getting lead poisoning or toothpaste carrying bacteria from a country we have grown to trust. I’m afraid Americans get bamboozled that way a lot... I figure if this thread only rates the alley cats, then a little humor should be involved.... but what’s funny about people locked into their own selves so much that they end up hurting others... or themselves. It’s no crime to commit social suicide, but it isn’t what could be considered great mental health either. How many are out there who are actually like Mao? How many are out there who actually liked Mao? Was Hitler an ARB type? Is Bush an ARB type? Is Hilary Clinton an ARB type? It’s tough to include actors, because they are just acting, although some are indeed type-cast. Is Britney Spears just overcompensating for self-repression? Most of us get our ya ya’s out once in a while and can use some good sense about it. Most ARB types I’ve known go silly bonkers on 3 beers or become very aggressive. Is there a difference? Megalomaniacs... ARB types. 3 beers and you may as well forget about getting a few sentences to a story going comfortably when some ARB types “loosen up” a bit. (One thing I do like about the online forums... I post U post, back and Forth, et hoc genus omne...) Why would someone like me be angry about chances to have such observations? Bored? That’s a different story. ARB types are often boring. I’m sure shrinks make careers around ARB types and the drug manufacturers would like to as well. I’m a somewhat skilled chemist, but, even with hair half down my back, drugs aren’t my forte. Ely Lilly is sure missing a wide open market if that’s their bag. I’m not angry, just opinionated. Condoning chemical solutions to any situation that is treated with barely any true essence of scientific methodology? No. Disgusted? A bit. Concerned about the importance of the hierarchy of scientists above scientific truth? What conscientious scientist wouldn’t be? Just like white collar crime in business, there is a much more queer “white coat” crime among scientifics. Why would a scientist lie? Why would true findings be hidden? Because such findings would hurt their job? That was the point I was making about Starcraft, especially, without the slightest fear of libel suits being tossed at me. Scientists don’t make good criminals, of course other scientists working under the auspices of government grants don’t have the guts to challenge the one who hands out the paychecks, so most perps in the scientific arena don’t get caught save by an outsider to that food chain. It seems like the scientific “hire”archy has been wagging the dog long enough... Silence the infidels...

Well, at least you haven't totally made this into a strawman. Do you know the meaning of emerging science? This has nothing to do with anything that makes me angry. If anything it makes me sad to see what humanity has come to. It makes me sadder to see that all the "psychotechnicians" can do is forego analysis, go straight to the chemistry set and circumvent the repercussions when say the side effects of Ziprexa, for example, harm the patient's frontal lobes and give him or her diabetes. I can understand that from the shrink's perspective, why get to the real problem, which is often a person's inability to "go forth boldly" or simply to help them find a good attorney to sue the source of their perturbations, why do that when it's easier to reduce the person's capacity to care about the cause? Using ARB type saves typing. Then, of course, you have the Transactional Analysis guys out there, like Dr. Phil... To understand what's truly wrong with someone or simply what's bugging them, takes some listening and getting to know them. Phil targets in on one small aspect that "pisses him off" and neglects to acknowledge what caused the behavior in the first place. Well, Glider, If I were your patient, I'd likely have fired you by now and gone to someone who is more of a scientist. I'm a scientist. I rarely discuss anything as such an absolute, rather discussing the possibilities and probabilities. It's just possible that I'm on track and that it "pisses you off" to have someone inject some thought that indicates you may have taken a wrong turn onto some captivating but dead end tributory. Sometimes generalists can do that, of course the GP is looking at everything in the box because he is thinking outside the box.

http://sohowww.nascom.nasa.gov/descriptions/mission/soho_solar_maximum_proposal.pdf This is a concise, though reasonably in depth amalgamation of what the satelite has shown us. In an earlier post I mentioned about a second "solid" layer beneath the photosphere. This was first based around a NASA channel broadcast in 2006 that showed how, when using a vignette, the inner layer can be seen with the bombardment sensors. I also found a blurb on the SOHO site later that year that described the same, but it's eluding me, as irony would have it. The broadcast was fascinating. No what I layed claim to has nothing to do with iron content, but with comparisons to the gas giants and the higher energies at which we can produce a few cyclotron born elements here on the earth, would form in abundance in higher energy gravitational spheres and the adiabatic state (mentioned in the Pdf) would create an area of total energy isolation and solidify H and He. This would occur in a shear layer. I'll keep searching on this till I find the one page I want to bring you to. In the meantime, perhaps we could discuss this objectively. Dr.CWho

Of Time, Gravity and Tithonicity The Actinides are products or by-products of the molten layer of the Earth's core where exist far higher energy forces than anything we can recreate on a major scale short of using that tithonic product of this planet's volcanic activity to initiate it. In the future we may be able to produce energies high enough to equal the energies of the sun's molten core areas, but as of now we are still guessing. We know temperatures exceed a hundred million degrees in the deeper molten areas and that gravity increases in these core areas for more than one theorized cause and this means greater velocities and warpage of time at hundreds of millions of degrees Kelvin. That temperature would develop around these strong gravitational currents as they recede beyond Plancks limit toward one over infinity. In these areas even the Earth has its gravitational "deep throat" and in this throat are born these tithonic actinides (or actinoids). This suggests that in the deeper gravity throat of the sun, an eighth row of periodic elements are born with atomic weights in the IIIB group that are about 20 to 30 AMU's higher than the Actinides, still the melting and boiling points would be off the scale in our gravity well. Our throat isn't as deep as the star's. The outer planets are store houses of molten hydrogen and it just might be they all have some of the same stuff we have here, we know for certain that each planet in the outer orbits have some of the stuff in abundance. The satellites of the outer planets tell us some areas were formed of sulfur bearing material yet ended up in areas that would not trajectorially end up with much of an element of that molar density. Yet the only things really common to all the planets with reasonable certainty are the first few rows of the periodic table. The higher the temperatures an element can withstand, the closer is to a strong gravity source. One would wonder why we couldn't detect these elements. It is easily found they are drastically out of synch with us relativistically. The frame energy of a star in formation is so near to the Planck limit that the star will be in its death throes before those parts of the time space continuum catch up to our faster pace. As an example, gravity traversing the Planck limit is on its way out of our space and time continuum and at some point would find equilibrium as a component of a time-space frame. Between the Planck limit and the next wave component, affected by its particular quaterion module, gravity is either at an ever lengthening peak or trough radius, so approaching negative energy or superposition, the latter being the natural home of the denser matter, down to zero mass approaching the peak of the reciprocal, deep space coordinate radius, so denser elements than what are found in our quiet energy trough would be found in the far deeper, so more energetically superpositioned, trough of the middle radius of the sun. This would account for an eighth row to the periodic table that could be expected in this deeper, higher energy trough of the Solar system and it also suggests that in much, much larger stars a ninth row, once again further out of catching up to us than even that of our own star. So it is not unreasonable to expect the eighth row to be present in a much higher energy trough and that the IIIB group would possibly expand into a Helionide or perhaps call it a Solarium group including potential solids in slower, internal stellar time-space continuums, so undetectable here in our trough. These solids might qualify as dark matter and they are still plentifully abundant in the deep core and we benefit from the higher energy of that deeper space-time gravity well immediately through the other interface that, in the area that provides the highest energy exchange of heat through another abundant solid metallic hydrogen2 crystals in the lower compression, outer area of the exchanger shell on top of metallic Helium4 in the areas of higher compression that face the high energy zone and the core within that energy sphere. There are a couple different possibilities for the activity on each face of the heat exchanger shell, still we certainly have more concrete evidence of the outermost areas. The possible activity in the outer convecting area where sunspots are processed has more than one way of accounting for the deficiency in the solar neutrino count that does not require the speculation of morphose neutrinos. I posted to a thread on mass and time. At the absolute zero-center of a singularity is absolute zero, worse yet, it is zero times infinity or, in terms of a real system with mass, escape velocity from all mass that ever was, is or is yet to come that has already been created. Within the singularity time also equals zero times infinity at absolute zero-center. As the thread postulates, time requires mass to exist, meaning to progress, I believe, still to say it doesn't exist would be excluding dilation in that zero translates into infinite velocity or infinite dilation of time and infinite negative energy dilated into the zero-center continuum where zero = infinity. As soon as mass becomes positive or negative infinity<>zero, so time and gravity are proportionally affected by infinity and once again there is a one to place over that infinity for some infinitesimal floor. If we make infinity positive then, with or without mass, time follows it's arrow along with potential mass, if nothing else, suggesting that time can exist without mass, but mass cannot exist without time.

Anal Retention as Mental Illness To the first flamebait response.... (YT2095) If your invisible friend is all you see on your monitor, then we're here to be understanding... To Phi, Thanks for the heads up. From the 1st impressions scenario: It might be a bit more graceful to a newcomer if your "downgrade" forum was split say like "Speculation, hypotheses and emerging theory" and "Dante's Inferno for pseudoscience." One doesn't confuse with polite questioning the negative rhetoricals, sarcasms,et hoc genus omne... The differences should be obvious. (Off topic: I don't do Pons and Fleishman type science. I wish to report findings to an active group of researchers like myself. If what I said in astrophysics belonged here, then everything else in astrophysics should be here as well, because all are based around some limited known facts and anything about them is speculation. Even gravity cannot be proven as attraction; one only need change the plus to a minus and vice versa for gravity to be the result of bombardment by gravity as a pushing force. The Cavendish experiment then works only with fluid dynamics in the equation. That is just one such speculation, but it is certainly not pseudoscience.) Glider, Interesting input Leaving Freud out of analysis is like leaving Keplar out of estimating the rings around Uranus. I'm not a shrink, but I know a couple and a number of other nursing and MD staff, some share bouillebais with us here every so often, since you can't get that and a game of chess anywhere else in Anderson that I know of. A neurosurgeon acquaintance of mine is interested in seing my first model of this quasi-perpetual-motion device I mentioned earlier. I plan to get into some of that in here later because I want some feedback and ideas for part of it... Most of what I know of psychology is from reading, usually while on a travel assignment, or from observations in both socialization and engineering situations, as well as doing business with companies of varying size. There resides three areas that demand behavioral analysis out of someone who prefers solving problems with machines and so, in the process of manufacturing engineering assignments, I've found that anal retentive behavior (ARB) aligns with self destructive behavior, like Menninger would describe in Man Against Himself. It is a product of fear and paranoia and I've seen it scuttle companies, products and people's lives, sometimes the ARB person. The worst part of it is the anal retentive has often been raised by a passive aggressive or actively abusive parent, possibly emotionally in some way or another, so is cautious about jumping right in, sink or swim. This maybe backed up by another parent who exhibits ARB. Anal retentive behavior, even as you defined it in more advanced terms, is still a factor of personality and personality affects our behavior. The point Is that there are quite a few more mentally ill people out in society, who irresponsibly harm others through ARB, then essentially hide the evidence. Wars aren't started by mature, creative people; they are started by ARB types. An ARB on a review team can hurt hundreds of thousands of people, because they poo poo an innovation. I've seen this happen. Yes ARB is a mental illness. It borderlines on schizophrenia, in my experiences of observation. I've seen it cause depression in both the ARB type and others around him or her. I've watched divorces occur over the products of just such depression. This is from a non-psychoanalyst, but rather from a general practicing scientist who started out as an engineer often in industrial engineering positions where watching people and machines to find the weakest link is par for the course. Examples are Starcraft, Grummen-Olsen and Gunnite Corporations. Starcraft was run into the ground by Leo Bontreger essentially clinging to obsolete production methods. These are my observations from meetings where my job was lie to them on paper, but I wouldn't compromise myintegrity to do that, so I gave bad news, with recommendations and the fear surfaced in Mr. Bontreger's face, because the figures I held backed up the company that was there to show them they were running in the red. I offered a method that would spend about 1/4 million and fix the problems with some overhead conveyors. That didn'thappen, though it was possible, then Starcraft went down... Bontreger was the first head to roll... People often make their worst mistakes at the hands of overzealous pragmatists that react out of fear for their own job. At Starcraft, the company I was contracted through was losing fame because I wasn't fudging the time study. A classic ARB type took the helm after my first boss went on to a smarter job opening and proceeded to fire me. As irony would have it I ended up job boss over him at Grummen-Olsen on a military project. I figured killing him with kindness was the payback since we worked for the same agency. The point being made is that ARB is as serious as panic attacks in their self destructive nature. Menninger made quite a few case references in what I've read to tacit neurotics that turn psychotic and self destructive. We've all seen too much of this in the 21st century. One causes someone's demise then commits suicide to amend or gets a gallbladder removed and all pain is relieved, for example. Watching people work is one thing, but I've found that the way to get the best readings of time is to become a part of the process, to keep the subject at ease, then do many repetitions. The ARB type lurks in the background thinking the subject isn't samrt enough to know he's there. My approach is to not insult the subject's intelligence and they very cooperatively forget me into the background except that I might tweak their process if I think it's effective to increase their cooperative output. I pck their brains and the subject is almost always ready to unload, so I can take in, albeit rarely include it in a study, some inuendos that might give me insight into getting people to work together or somewhere else. ARB types cancel my orders for fatigue mats for press operators knowing it keeps people more efficient so pays back over the years, even to the effect of keeping employees that would stay if working conditions were better. Getting involved in the people does more good when an engineer has more support from the ones holding the purse strings. In all that there are some of my findings. Religious implications: Sometimes comparisons of such cannot be helped. Even focusing on problematic areas can be painful, still the pain once felt is over and the healing can begin. Now about Bucky and Gardner... Gardner was unfair and his review was classic ARB. Bucky made some great geodesic domes. Today we need those domes more than ever. How much greenhouse gas would be collected if in Bucky's day we had built domes over the cities? That was his vision never to be... a dome over Manhatten. Think of what that could have meant. Not long ago I was shown some interest in a concept to build 90 kilometer square into spherical domes over Madison County here in Indiana to prevent the escape into the atmosphere of farm emissions and the cities as well. It's a 300 billion dollar project, people. If it's privately funded, then there are problems of the county level opposition, still if the state helps out there would be far more opposition. That's enough thought food for this post. Thanx for the responses. It'll help me get to know you all a bit ARB types and creative nerds (like me )alike. (If you want to be insulting then my email is available...) Yes. IMO, ARB is a form of mental illness. God love you; Get help. Also, I didn't notice the psyche boards. I would think there would be good reads there. Dr.CWho

The faster you go, The shorter you are. - Albert Einstein

According to Martin Gardner, Buckminster Fuller was a pseudoscientist. Bucky, in Martin's eyes, didn't know what he was talking about, notwithstanding his development of geodesic architecture and other accomplishments. One would find Martin's psychological status to be that of an anal retentive, or one who is a chronic pragmatist. It's all Freudian, of course, still Freud permeates the foundations of many other noted psychiatrists, such as Karl Menninger or Skinner or Jung. Humans go through a series of changes in psychological profile as they grow older, but those who are cursed with some forms of mental illness are that way because they suffer from either a neurosis or psychosis stemming from psychological stagnation at an early age. The anal stage of development is where the child is obsessed with its own functions and self needs. People who retain this state of development are known as anal retentives and often the anal retentive knows little of how to love in a mature manner because they didn't enter the Oedipal stage of development, then onward to adult. Martin Gardner is just one such anal retentive. He is a classic example of someone who is so fearful of looking outside of the box that he rejects the ideas of other educated people who do step outside the box periodically. He called Bucky a "nutjob" because, in fact, Gardner is a nutjob, only one who clings to old fundamentals, like so many Christians, Jews and Muslims, who reject scientific findings for hand-me-down fairy tales. Now we have a new type of carbon architecture called Buckminsterfullerene that baffles some, but intrigues the rest of us. In that, it seems clear to me that the reasons we are behind the times in where we should be scientifically, is because of the anal retentives that we simply should ignore if we want to get anything done. I'm sure there are any number of competent shrinks out there that can help these poor lost souls that hamper scientific advancements...

Well, Insane, You are truly amazing. You have managed to build a straw man out of all I posted here and even managed to make a fool of the moderator who moved it to pseudoscience or "the trash can". I suppose the NASA channel can't penetrate Hadron's wall, eh? One really has only to digest the known facts about the solar system to see that neither the protoplanetary or unstable disk hypothesis can be promoted to "theory." At least I'm happy to see you looked in search for the MTC. That proved to me that you have to "search" to "destroy." The MTC is not unlike a Jet Wheel or what was once a product of Wheelabrator. It's a great way to separate low mass samples from higher mass samples. As far as I'm concerned, this thread can be closed. I'll start something that is not "introductions" oriented. Perhaps I'll get some meaningful feedback. I can't imagine anyone having made over 3900 posts who actually works as a scientist. Most of us working in the field of astrophysics and other sciences have more to do than stay glued to the net. Happy surfing. http://groups.msn.com/JUSTOUTOFTHEBOX

see your also not well versed This sounds like a statement from someone who judges books by their cover. It would appear you missed quite a bit at the NASA site that would bring an amateur astronomer to having a current knowledge of much of anything other than seek and destroy.... You make too many assumptions concerning what I haven't posted as of yet and use it as a destructive means. Have you ever used a magnetically coupled mass trajectorial centrifuge? It offers the ballistics deviations that would allow us to predict that an Atlas-Agena booster could place 500 lbs of payload on the moon yet could also place a 300 lb payload on Mars. It demonstrates how the percentage of a particular element will mostly settle into various bands, so although Jupiter has some of the same stuff as the earth, the dense mass still responds to the velocity-mass equation and, save for inter-orbital collisions, settles to place iron mostly in the inner planets with uranium likely higher in Venus. There may be elements of higher melting points in the molten areas of the core, but highly unlikely in the crust. There would be little difference in such a trend the nearer the core of a star we examine, thus far heavier elements with tremendous melting and boiling points. WTC stuff? Consider that I made no mention of WTC. You picked that out of the simple, vague math. Why would you think I meant WTC?

http://uwnews.org/article.asp?articleid=3263 This is a Hubble shot and quite a bit that began the theory. (Alien, I suggest you visit the Project Soho site...) My own theory originated in the 80's concerning the conflict between sustained fusion and the Van der Waals equation of state. Quantum physics often conflicts with Newtonian physics, but even worse the standard model of the sun's fusion power conflicts with Newtonian physics and the patterns of nature that tend to align with Keplarian mathematics in that the further flung material required more energy to achieve their orbit but less energy to maintain it. This eventually leads to the conclusion that there are more elements present on Earth than on Jupiter for example and far more in the sun than would present on the earth... at least 41 more elements of increasingly higher molar mass, so increasing melting points for many of them. Actually, Alien, I'm not as ignorant as you may postulate. I've been studying gravity for nearly 40 years now. The one thing that you may wish to consider is that if what you dub an "iron sun" theory keeps surfacing so often, there must be some validity to it. Personally I don't have much faith in "scientific" organizations such as NITS that suggest that a twenty thousand ton weight dropping about 16 feet onto a structure below it that is designed to hold twice that will crush the lower structure. Maybe some of that data fails to penetrate Hadrons wall? Dr. CWho http://www.scienceagogo.com/news/20031002191731data_trunc_sys.shtml This is absolutely not what I am purveying. Out of time here... have a Merry Christmas all...

Iron? Not at all. Bundled with PP? The post is just introductions with more than a single subject. Specialists often have difficulty finding consensus with GP's like Bucky Fuller or Sir Harry Kroto. NASA can't read their own findings, but a few of us out here actually can. NASA are basically thieves. Some of us out here can see the big picture while they're still trying to figure out who sabotaged their latest ISS project delivery... Actually I prefer discussions right in my study where I can discuss what's on my blackboards over a game of chess with some Led Zepelin or Mozart in the background... Those discussions involve time travel now and the blackboard can get pretty wild. Dr. CWho

0 deg.K is only unattainable in a radius that, such as ours, orbits the metagalactic center of the universe at c. (I imagine we'll talk/argue tachyons soon... ) Radii beyond that will find significant matter traveling at >c. This is naturally subjected to angular momentum and shearing, still there is an absolute fallback radius that is a product of the potential energy developed from gradients within the almighty, eternally infinite, cryodynamic VOID that exists beyond the radius of maximum velocity. ( c^7) How do we get to there? Let's say we substitute H (heat) for Q (irreversible) and P (pressure) for W (irreversible). In that the universe is viewed as the only truly closed system that exists. The remainder of heat measurements will be relative to the degree of closure between the internal gradients, compared to the potential of the external (void) gradients. For these editors... & = infinity and it would need be assumed that in 1/&, for infinitesimality, the division line has the limit arrow toward zero. h = plancks k With that in mind -P& x -H& xt1/& = Eh In essence, that's a particle from what we consider to be nothing, except nothing has enough potential to spurt a frame of material existence into reality in an infinitesimal moment. This type of process accounts for the cosmic background "noise" but describes a "big bang" that occurs thousands, if not millions, of times each second. To the launch post, this says that you have it in reverse. The prime particle would be (what I dubbed) a tempon or tempotron, much smaller than the Higgs boson, which IMO equates to the graviton, collectively building the latter, then expanding to the photon, but "Let there be light," as we know it, is only characteristic of this part of the universe per this concept. What we have is a burst of primary particles that affect one another yet are also affected by the forces of the void, primarily from 6 axial directions:X-, X+, Y-, Y+, Z-, Z+ and these forces will rapidly (within 1/&) lock all those particles into a frame that becomes time as we know it.

Well, Mr. Skeptic, There are more than one designs possible to achieve the effect. I'm too expensive, so you'll likely be stuck designing and building your own. The basic concept is do-able. In fact try done-able. It's the mechanics of the return trip to the bottom of the "bubble collumn" that can be done more than one way. The design of the magnet/buoys themselves can be accomplished more than one way, but the method I'm planning is the best, I think. The concept is so basic it's surprising nobody has thought of this yet. The electricity is generated as a bubble filled 1/3 with ceramic magnet to 2/3 air volume rises through a collumn of generating coils, naturally subject to Gausse's and Maxwell's laws for coil concentration. There needs be some electronics saavy in the design as well to avoid the effects of hysteresis if multiple coils are used. Once the buoy with its magnetic body falls into the 2nd, empty collumn, more coils can extract more energy and a number of Rube Goldberg's can be used to get the next buoy in place at the bottom of the bubble collumn. The concept is perpetual motion other than part replacement and water evaporation. It can't be patented, but a design certainly could be patented. A simple model to demonstrate the process is possible with simple supplies, other than your coil winding skills...

Hello all, It would be nice to see who everyone is and a bit about everyone. My real life name is Dr. Charbonneau Ph. D. and I'm the fellow who promoted by publication to NASA in 1999, that Sol was composed of not only gaseous but a solid second layer and core beneath its surface along with a different than was accepted theory that the star does not function by sustained fusion, but by pulsed fusion. Between 2003 and 2005 the NASA/ESA Project SOHO confirmed my model. Having included a cutaway illustration (God gifted me with visual arts talents as well as the scientific mind), the images SOHO generated were remarkably similar to what I had depicted along with that the CSphere, as it should properly be known, or Charbonneau Sphere (like the Schwartzchild Sphere or radius as such is known) was the generator of sunspots. Currently I'm at odds with NASA not only because they are failing to responsibly give me the credit I deserve for that but also for the idea I submitted to them through my CUSRESS Project in 1989 that would have put man's feet on Mars 2 years ago. That project also suggested that the new shuttle design I submitted could be slowed for landing with DRAG CHUTES. Four months after they turned me down on the project, the shuttle started using drag chutes for braking. That being said, such are my contributions to astrophysics and rocketry. Currently I have developed a model that uses hydrostatics and buoyancy/freefall as a means to generate unlimited electrical power without a moving source of water or any fuel. Because it probably is the first truly usable form that would qualify as perpetual motion, I doubt if it can be patented, but on a larger scale this can do away with fossil fuel and nuclear generated electric power. I imagine the last project really should be on another one of the boards, but thought I'd put it here along with an introduction. I live in Anderson, Indiana, own a home and have my research facility there, hoping to install a fairly elaborate astronomy observatory in the not too distant future. I'm an artist and engineer as well as a scientist. Who else is on board?