dimreepr

How much would you hate to exterminate fire ants in your apartment? I’ll take that bet... I got sucked into answering this BS, to my shame, without getting an answer to " what if the threat is starvation?" or how that differs from any other threat that he's willing to kill for?

FFS Make your mind up!!! I’ve shown that it’s possible to treat farm animals ethically, which you seem to agree with. I understand you’re a veggie but you’re happy to exterminate animals that threaten you. Edit/ So what if the threat is starvation?

So the question isn’t about eating meat but the ethical treatment of the animals we do eat? I doubt anyone here would argue that some animals are treated badly and that regulations should be put in place to protect them.

I live in a rural area with a number of farms, most of which are less than 500 acres I personally know many of the farmers and have worked on a few; being a farmer on this scale is a vocation and, believe me, they love their animals and take VERY good care of them. When it comes to dispatching the animals, in the UK, there are very stringent regulations to ensure they’re killed as humanly, and with as little stress, as possible. So these animals are protected from disease, wildlife and winter, which, is more than can be said for many people here; that sounds pretty ethical to me.

So you’d rather they suffer disease or injury or a slow perhaps painful death from old age? Besides what’s so unnatural about being killed by another animal? Perhaps you missed post #15 “Is it ethical to try and bias your argument with unnecessarily emotive language?”

Is it ethical to try and bias your argument with unnecessarily emotive language?

I’d have more chance of crapping in the Queens handbag.

I don’t want to be pedantic but I’m going to be , the word is xenophobia (we don’t want to give the haters ammo), since a lot of the evil “H1B visa holders” are of the same race as the accusers.

Well let’s all hope your citadel is impervious to a siege; perhaps then, when you have nothing but your neighbours (or rats) to shoot (and eat), and they you, you’ll realise the value of cooperation.

Indeed, after all it’s so much easier to create fear than it is to create understanding; which is probably why conservatives on both sides of the pond have denuded the educational chances of the poor.

I get the feeling he thinks the word “socialist” is a euphemism for ‘they’ll take my guns’.

Many people believe, and good luck to them, who am I to deny that solace.

Isn't fraud considered a criminal act?

Even if they're correct?

Now we start to see “America’s biggest problem”.

You seem to be missing this particular point.

Or is it point or point?

I doubt anyone on this site would consider my English skills to be anything other than mediocre, so I use a spell/grammar checker to compose my posts, neither do I have any real academic qualification or talent. What intelligence I do have is in understanding myself and, I think, others. There seems to be many different categories of intelligence and the world is a better place because of it, for instance my sister has a PhD in the sciences but will almost always consult me with her problems. For me arrogance denotes a lack of intelligence but even then they often make good leaders/money.

For the first time since I joined this forum Godwin’s law seems, not only relevant but, pertinent; the irony of the trial ‘Hubert Zafke’ is hard to ignore. The fact that England will, almost certainly, remain an ally despite that is even more disturbing.

If you don't leave some sort of mark, you're not doing it right...

That’s very interesting; I love speed but hate it when I’m not in control.

Done, we've all made that mistake (not that I claim that status).

Whilst I appreciate the reason for the post, I have to say, I, simultaneously, would love to ride this course and hate to be a pillion; when I rode the TT course all I remember is a strip of black stuff.

Since you’ve missed all my previous points I’m not surprised you’ve missed this one “By this definition, then, piety can be either genuine, in that it springs from spiritual piety, or false, in that it is an attempt to exhibit the signs of piety for their own sake, or for some other reason (such as propitiation or public esteem).”; laugh all you want but my point wasn’t only about your apparent devotion to Freud. I stopped reading the wall of text at this point; I need to shop for a new irony meter.

This is one of those “suck it and see questions” much like the Grexit question; although I feel the right answer maybe the antipode of each other. Edit/ much like my prediction of the outcome.