dimreepr

When you understand why forgiveness ameliorates the notion of revenge, you may understand.

So, ‘Them’ are those that disagree with you? You might find ‘them’ a little overwhelming.

You only look bad if you ignore ‘world opinion’ in favour of personal bias.

Really? We’re down to knives for the average mental patient. Tar, you seem to epitomise the revenge culture, your culture so wants to be true; real life is not like ‘Star Wars’ it’s no fairy tale, there is no good and evil, it’s just us ‘humans’ with varying degrees of baggage; life is ‘Dante’s Inferno’ not ‘Cinderella’.

So your forgiveness is dependent on their behaviour (in your opinion)? If you think you can dictate the rules, then you miss the point of forgiveness and the possibility of an intelligent approach, is lost.

So you'd rather hate/defeat the enemy than understand/ forgive them? I can only hope, you've dug enough graves.

How might you achieve that without forgiving someone?

Tell you what: If you answer my question “Fear is a powerful ally of hate; why else describe oneself a terrorist?” I’ll do my best to decipher your reply.

Fear is a powerful ally of hate; why else describe oneself a terrorist? They don’t want to be forgiven, much like a bully doesn’t want to be challenged.

All of them!!!!

So, instead of forgiving one bad guy and bringing peace to all, you’d rather let the least bad guy cause an acceptable level of suffering to the fewest?

Those straws are getting ever more sparse and brittle, aren’t they? However I would like an answer (to my question without a?) to post #365 Soldiers still kill, and not always the guilty, the point is ‘tar’ forgiving the guilty isn’t the same as letting them off scot free; the point is forgiving breaks the cycle of violence/revenge/death and allows people to talk out their problems rather than shoot them out.

Agreed with a caveat; poverty is a strong motivator for crime.

Really clutching at straws now... Hatred and self loathing have no boundaries they can appear in a “Muslim” just as easily they can appear in a white middle classed bigot. You must realise that every time you ‘blame’ the Muslims you’re do exactly what the Terrorists want; if you don’t realise then it’s plain ignorance but if you do then you’re, willingly, helping to create a much bigger war and that’s despicable.

Hatred. Self loathing.

You can’t eat cash and hatred only nourishes fear and loathing.

Nice try at diverting the point, the statement is ubiquitous and just happens to include religions. It’s just as easy to ‘believe’ a big enough bomb will solve all our problems, no thought required.

Nope What I'm saying is; when we stop understanding we start believing.

To understand the answer you must first understand the question; and to understand that “What is six times seven” makes sense.

But you might stop when you understand why they’re mad at you.

And if the idea is held by a million, a billion; how long before you get tired? It’s spreading because more and more people believe the idea is worth fighting for; the way to create enemies is to kill their family; the way to create friends is to care for them, which is much easier to do when you understand them. Seeking to demonise those who don’t understand, you, seems to be asking others to kill for you.

When are you, both, going to understand? You can’t kill an idea; whatever ordinance you through at it; how, for instance, would you thwart an attack on your imagination? Edit/ The answer to which is, stop imagining and start thinking; so, I guess, you can kill an idea after all... Damn it...

Bolded mine. So you think ‘phlogiston’ is possible? Also can you explain an "out eye"?

Just a little detour back to topic; Modern society couldn’t function without money or a facsimile thereof. The problems of money are the illusions it creates and the fear that inspires: That one’s safe with enough of it. That one’s happy with enough of it. That one’s better, more powerful with enough of it. That one’s problems can be solved with enough of it. And yet coins/paper/digital information can provide none of the above, because these illusions are so powerful; the fear of not having enough money can inspire such depravity and spite. It’s little wonder that those with the most money not only, seem to, have the most ‘skeletons’ but also, seem to, fear the most.

It depends on a few things: Ones ambitions; if one is trying to achieve a PHD/career then its ones strength that’s needed. Time of life; if one is a tenured prof and looking to find a wife then one had better work on that innate social awkwardness. For most of us; it’s a complex mixture of the above, if you're lucky...