dimreepr

Jesus, Buddha and mohamed. Three people who are famously refuted to be uncorruptable, though they weren't tested by absolute power. If they're reputations are accurate then few could doubt they would pass. I think the old saying "it takes one to know one" is particularly relevent here. Anybody who is corrupt would be unable to understand the concept as they're only reference is corrupt thinking. If only our society could atchieve that very thing. Platocracy in my view is the only chance our society has for a reasonable relatively corrupt free future. To atchieve this, is offcorse almost impossible. First you need a benign philosipher, though how you test his/her uncorruptabilty (food for ferther thought), then offcorse, you need the consensus of the people to allow this person absolute domain. tricky...

I dont believe power corrupts. I believe power attracts the corruptable.

Its all in formation of planets. They are all either molten or gassious in formation, so when gravity does its job they are forced into a perfect circle erosion does the the rest. Our planet is only 3% off a perfect circle even now.

It strikes me that we could well be, but if we are in a designed system and we can assume the systems imperfect. This means, this system will at some point would break down, given the systems complexity time is the variable. We just need to work out the probability of such a systems breakdown. We can then determine if we should have witnessed this breakdown at this point in our history.

I'm not sayimg its an illusion I'm saying I have free will but within movable boundaries. Take for example the news from holland about the catholic church. It would seem to be strong evidence as to the limits of free will. The forced abstenance seems to have the effect of perverting they're thinking. I'm not sayimg its an illusion I'm saying I have free will but within movable boundaries. Take for example the news from holland about the catholic church. It would seem to be strong evidence as to the limits of free will. The forced abstenance seems to have the effect of perverting some of the priest's thinking.

I think the only way we could have a society that would sustain and be free of coruption is a platocracy. How you could set this system up is the big question.

I think "free will" needs definition. Whilst I have made a choice to write this, that choice had lots of boundaries, set by my culture, friends and family. Plus the presure on my time and my needs (food etc.) and my fear that I'm talking rubbish in the eyes of my peers. My aparent free will has been moulded. Then stir into the mix my reactions to hormones, drugs and different foods, So how free is my will.

if you could build a perfect simulation then you design it so that this type of thought is impossible.If its imperfect then its size and complexety would throw up an emergent quality and the illusion would be discovered.

It seems you have answered your own question, freewill doesn't exist. We are all restricted, primarily by culture, also family and friends. Fear of showing yourself up, the need to feed and cloth yourself. Cyber agents would have its programming restricting it, plus any maintenance needed.

descartes "I think therefore I am" comes into play here. If you design a system then freewill is automatically restricted and therefore is impossible.

If you read the thread called "mirror test of self awareness" in this forum your question Should be answered.

Quite right. By the way is your hat in any danger?

The thread is called mirror test of self awareness please read. you will see my point. Besides a "real contibution" would imply an actual answer not a question of this uninformed type.

Having taken part in a thread that challenged the mirror test (I believe correctly). This Ambiguity throws up a question. If there are animals selfaware and animals not selfaware means we have an awareness graph. This also means we have a point at which basic selfawareness starts. Any ideas what that animal or genus might be?

its easy to look into the shadows and see monsters (my anticonspiracy theory saying) give life a go its easy really (very cheesy) probably this has been said before but i've never consciously heard it... never gamble with more than you can afford to loose.(common sense) Time is part of the process that is our universe and as you and I are part of the universe we both observe and experience this process.(random) This is my favorite but I don't claim authorship "The stone age didn't end because they ran out of stones"(for rose spec's wearers)

The recent court case in america is what has finally decided me on the matter of evolution. the argument being that of intelligent design*. this is about as close to actual proof of the theory as is possible to get. *the argument being that advocates say they had found a microbe which couldn't be simplirfied. Prooved wrong. As for the big bang.... the universe did start somewhere thats for shizz (to quote snoop) but its now common thinking that it was more of an inflation than a simple explosion so needs definition as a question.

Time is part of the process that is our universe and as you and I are part of the universe we both observe and experience this process.

i think your right, I see no reason to assume that the inability to recognise your reflection should result in this absolute. Dogs are very capable of learning basic tasks and interacting with the pack. This must mean atleast a basic sense of the self in order to inturpret the behaviour of others. This however doesn't mean that all socially interactive animals are, wilderbeast for instance, evolved to be as stupid as possible* and so I feel is unlikely to have a sense of self. Somewhere then there must excist an animal that has just an iota of awareness. * they must be unintellegent in order for swam intellegence too work.

how long after?

time isn't quantifiable. its purely a measure imposed by us.the only way time could be measured is useing planks min length to describe a unit, and even then its diferent for every body in the universe.

Thats fair enough, if you can move the thread thanks. I'm just a noob looking for some help fleshing out or destroying this theory thats been encroaching on my ponderings for so long. Thanks for your input Chris your absolutely right, what I really need is help with the math, but that part of the theory is more speculation. The main part is the energy/spacetime interaction.

Hi anilkumar I see you've posted on my thread that "theory" explains it. As for the maths I'd need alot of help 2 express.

I am aware the m = mass, but in my theory energy/spacetime interaction is matter, the equation describes the amount of energy needed.

E=MC2 says energy and matter are the same You are quite right in saying that everything is a process, this however doesn't refute the existance of matter.

comprehensive answer thank you. I imagine the stress' on the arms are mostly tension (swing through the trees, carrying etc) so no need for a patella (though an elbowcap would save the pain of hiting my funnybone).