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Did you bother to look for such a source yourself? Geological history of oxygen

Thank you John; I appreciate that. To be fair to Phi, he actually suggested my first post was a good topic and he split that post from the thread where I made it. He well makes the point that people label themselves and it is this self-labeling that comes out in the psychological studies. It is not as has been argued that the researchers label people conservative (or liberal, or progressive, etc. .) Back to the topic. The Authoritarians Perhaps when Altemeyer's work is exhausted here we will do well looking at the Social Dominance Orientation research.

Since the subject of this thread is the study -actually more than 80 studies summarized in a meta-study- then you have no legitimate grounds to comment on that which you have no knowledge of. While the mods put this in politics, it is about psychology. Altemeyer's The Authoritarians 'targets' everyone and categorizes the results. I remind you again, it is just one of 80+ studies and I started with it because I found it free online in its entirety. You can look forward to not intending to read any other of the studies if-and-when I get to them. You can take up your issues outside of the topic of this thread in the appropriate places.

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In Sherlock Holmes and the Secret Weapon, Sherlock Holmes & Moriarity give these descriptions: Moriarity: "And what is this brilliant idea of yours?" Holmes: "You know that a man dies if he loses five pints of blood? Yes, of course you do. I should have you placed on an operating table, inject a needle into your veins and slowly draw off your life's blood." Moriarity: "The needle to the last, ay, Holmes?" Holmes: "Slowly, drop-by-drop the blood would be drawn from your body. You would be aware of every exquisite second to the very end. You would be watching yourself die scientifically noting every reaction and in full possession of your faculties." Moriarity of course does this to Holmes and says: Moriarity: "Closer to the end Holmes, closer and closer. Each second a few more drops leave your desiccated body ending, you can feel me touch you. You're perfectly conscious aren't you, Holmes?" Holmes: "I shall be conscious long after you're dead, Moriarity."

Well Ed, it's exactly how home refrigerators chill the water for in-door dispensing.

Well Ed, you run the pipes into the refrigerator/freezer where you make loops before running it back out.

The studies that I have referenced and that this thread is prefaced on forestall your and the other posters' needs to presume. Of the 80+ such studies cited in the meta-study introduced in the OP I have to date only looked in depth at Altemeyer's RWA work and it evidences that by-and-large the dysfunctional behavior is not voluntary, however as I most recently referenced from the last chapter of The Authoritarians, Altemeyer agrees with you that the behavior is alterable. He also points out that one road to such alteration is for high Right Wing Authoritarians to read his study, but as we know of course you can lead equines to water but you can't make them drink. Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results. ~ Albert Einstein

While Fuller was handy at geometry and drafting, the conclusions he drew on the meaning of the drawings mark him out as a crank. Despite advisement from his co-author Applewhite to lay off the obtuse language and zig-zaggy reference style in SYNERGETICS: Explorations in the Geometry of Thinking, Fuller insisted on the word salad approach. Word salad is as word salad does.

See the links I gave Ronald above on absorption refrigerators. They do make them small; I have one in my travel trailer. Moreover as I said and my links show, they run on electricity or propane. They are dual use so when you're in a park with electricity they run on electricity and when your traveling or parked with no electricity they run on propane. The units run around $1200 US dollars, and cost to run is as cost to run does. If you by chance meant 'evaporative coolers', they come small too; search for 'swamp coolers'. swamp coolers @ Yahoo

These are called absorption refrigerators and they can be powered by a variety of heat sources including solar. They are common in recreational vehicles in the US and typically powered by both AC and propane gas. Dometic is an international supplier of these refrigerators. >> Dometic

Acknowledged. Ergo my saying "hinted". Agreed. As any scuba diver will tell you there is a steep temperature gradient as one descends. [Edit: See Thermocline ] The only issue I see with the storage is cost. I saw Ronald signed in earlier, but he didn't post. Perhaps he will return & favor us with some feedback.

I agree my proposal is not enough cooling for Ronald's stated goal of 6ºC drop. He may however judge for himself if an approx. 2º cooler is better than none. As Studiot hinted at, running some piping underground would get some additional cooling. Here's a page that's helpful for judging that idea: Ground Temperatures as a Function of Location, Season, and Depth It's not specific to Phillipines but gets the idea across.

There is no need to evaporate the nutrient water. It would remain in a closed system and separate cooling water/air run across a heat exchanger.

Ronald says typical temp is 32ºC and the water temp. usually 2 or 3 degrees lower; call water temp 30ºC. He wants to cool the water to 24ºC, so 30-24=6º. Taking this similar climate example:Evaporative Cooler @ Wiki So at highest temp and humidity he would only get 2º cooling. But, it is cooling. Moreover, according to this source those extremes of temp. and humidity in theTokyo example only occur for a couple months in Manilla, Phillipines. Manilla Climate Data Ronald can use the performance equations at the Wiki page to work out his own specifics & determine if evaporative cooling is workable for him. Performance

The lower the humidity the more efficient it is I agree. However, unless the humidity is 100% you can get some evaporation. Since Ronald is already circulating water he would only need to power some fans and a small pump with his solar panels to run secondary water over cooling coils. Large power plants using evaporative cooling continue to run regardless of humidity.

Perhaps an evaporative cooler. What is Evaporative Cooling?

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Pathetic argument John. You really can't figure out the difference between scientific studies and commentary? I urge the staff to mark the thread [Answered: Yes] and close the thread inasmuch as so few are willing or able to distinguish the topic any better than John.

One would never guess you or any of the others who fail to discuss the studies know this is a serious discussion. Pathetic.

Citing some jackass with a blog is no more helpful than any of the other posts that ignore the studies we are undertaking to look at.

Sorry, French is too complex. I prefer the simplicity and ease of understanding that comes from using English. Avoirdupois

And as you refuse to read the study I keep citing, you are -by definition- ignorant of the facts of it. Me thinks thou [emotionally] complaineth too much. . The Authoritarians

Phi mentioned the start of this thread, so I thought I'd go to the beginning of the last chapter of the first study from the meta-study that I undertook to study first from the first post. The Authoritarians Bolding mine: Of course, it's not hard to miss what you don't want to see.

It's pronounced po͞op, from Middle English poupe, from Old French, from Latin puppis, from old Hebrew בֵּית אַחֲרָה