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I understand that all humans are one race regardless of color. I also understand that bigotry is not constrained to racism. Bigots don't care about such things however, so thinking that if it's explained to them that will change their bigotry strikes me as misguided.

Seems to me the wear-and-tear on parts is problematic and the necessary large wing size makes for an invitation to disaster. UTIAS Snowbird @ wiki(redirect from Ornithopter source

Knowing how neurons produce memory doesn't tell you anything about intuition or how people think or how self awareness arises. The autos are just an analogy and suggesting I meant that they think is a strawman. Traffic and self awareness are emergent properties; higher level abstractions in a hierarchy of emergent properties. That doesn't explain intuition, it just describes the circumstance under which it arises.

Polar bears have black skin. Tigers have striped skin. The mistakes of racism are the mistakes of prejudice and per se bigotry.

No, atoms are 100% responsible; but they are also irrelevant. Let me try my own analogy. (Doug, if I blow this I'll buy you a dinner.) So you could know everything there is to know about motor vehicles. Valves, alloy of engines, fuel injectors, yada, yada, yada, everything. But none of that will tell you anything about traffic. Motor vehicles are 100% responsible for traffic, but their underlying physical mechanisms are irrelevant to traffic. The underlying physical mechanisms of memeory, feelings, and intuitions are also irrelevant. Because that consideration adds nothing to understanding intuitions. Why not consider that intuitions happen by fairies?

I prepared a video. [and damned if I can figure out how to get the player to display! ] Video of loop cuttings: >> https://flic.kr/p/o6QN96 Edit: video preview

In all 6 cases in the last couple years the home owners had no weapons. What MonDie is getting at is whether or not a gun in the home actually makes a person safer. The answer is no, a gun in a home puts the people there at a higher risk for death or injury by the firearm. Referring back to my earlier post #21 the myth of increased safety is debunked. While you may feel safer, you in fact are not safer. [Note each highlighted item links to a statistical analysis.] 10 Pro-Gun Myths, Shot Down: Fact-checking some of the gun lobby's favorite arguments shows they're full of holes.

What I don't understand is why you feel compelled to keep posting here. What's your skin in the game? If it's just that others quote your posts then pretend I never did it and leave the folks here alone to discuss how they think it should/could be done. On that front: NASA's New Mega-Rocket, Orion Capsule on Track for Future Test Flights

Pretty much all do that fall into common usage. So too those that have fallen out of usage and receive the nomination archaic. (Notwithstanding that many dictionaries leave out words due to a restriction on volume size.) From what I have already read here and in your other threads, it is not too soon. The supporting material Doug gives for that quote that I have given twice already runs to several if not many chapters and I simply cannot repeat them here or summarize them any further. May I give the quote again? Yes; I must. See how that quote ends with "give one MORE example"? That's because he has give several chapters worth already. It's also because it is not an intuitive concept and requires deep thought to understand and/or appreciate the truth of it. Your atoms pushing around may be responsible, but they are irrelevant. But I am hurt. I am hurt that you ask for my judgment and when I give it, you conclude it is not for you without giving it fair consideration. That judgment is apparently an intuitive one. If you were to read the book and come back with arguments on some particulars in it which you constructed through rational means, I would get happy. Just to revisit my earlier accounting of intuition, lottery has nothing to do with intuition. Intuition arises out of experience and is not to be confused with instinct.

It is because as Enthalpy correctly pointed out in post #6 it is the atmosphere that keeps [most] high energy particles from reaching the ground. The aurorae colors vary depending on which atmosphere gas atoms are struck by the high energy particles. From my earlier Wiki link: The rest of your post is off-topic here.

Yes; many get through. This is most dramatically seen in the aurorae, which occur when Earth's magnetic field redirects charged particles to the poles.

All words are invented. Yes I do understand what you are suggesting and yes Hofstadter takes such 'causative' phenomena into consideration. Again, I honestly don't understand the reluctance to actually read what Hofstadter writes. Also again, you aren't the only one to put up such resistance. I loaned my copy to one person and got it back 2 years later unread. Of the other 6 or so persons that I directly/personally recommended it to, only one read it and he had read Doug's Gödel, Escher, Bach: An Eternal Golden Braid and just didn't know that Doug had written a new book. On this particular issue, you must not rely on your intuition. Edit: While as with I Am A Strange Loop, reviews of Gödel, Escher, Bach -aka GEB- do not substitute for reading the actual book, here is part of the Wiki article I just linked to and which points to why I think it pertains.

Acknowledged. Note there is also a key difference between solar flares and CME's. Flares erupt from sunspot regions, CME's not necessarily so. They do interfere with radio. It may be the case that AM is more susceptible and that is reflected in your personal experience. Solar Flares and Disturbances for Radio Propagation . Additional flare vs CME info: Solar Flares and Coronal Mass Ejections

Thanks. However, while all that is well and good, I am interested in reading references specifically related to solar storm effects on electric grids [& satellites]. I have to wonder why if everything is well protected, there is concern still being expressed as in my earlier link in post #7 on the 2012 near-miss event. ?

Do you find any evidence in sedimentary record to support these speculations? I am unaware of any, but then I haven't looked too closely. Those who have looked closely have not, to my knowledge, raised queries about appropriate peculiarities in the rock record. For that reason I strongly suspect your speculation, while interesting, is groundless. (Of course you could argue that groundless, or less ground, is exactly what you would expect with extensive erosion. ) I agree that Essay mixes different scenarios and the above quoted suggestion of continuous heavy precipitation seems unfounded. He does however earlier say " Another possibility could be variations of glacial mega-floods or glacial lake drainages." which don't require continuous precipitation and for this we do have evidence at least in the US. I happen to live on top of 100's of feet of such flood deposits and turn up river rock of considerable variety in my garden everyday. I'm referring of course to the Missoula floods, and while they are of geologically recent origin such events could have taken place in the more distant past. Still, that they would survive from the time frames of super continents does seem a stretch and like you I have never seen such a mention. Edit: In the spirit of Mike's photographs and rock-hounding, here's a shot of a little bowl of Missoula flood rocks that I have collected from the garden.

Thanks for the move HI. While I did make one speculation about the hexagon on Saturn, Möbius bands and their study are anything but speculative and this thread properly belong in the math section. Just so, to refresh my memory and get all hands-onny I performed the ol' cut the Möbius band in half exercise last night. The cut is of course parallel to the edge. The result -to me at least- is anything but intuitive. I'll write up my experiments and put the results in spoilers so folks can test their intuition, and then I'll pose a new question. Please excuse and/or correct any improper terminology I employ. Where I say band it should be understood that I refer to a closed loop. Möbius band [1/2 twist] cut in half yields Band with 1 twist cut in half yields Band with 1 1/2 twists cut in half yields Band with 2 twists cut in half yields So the question is, if imatfaal were to cut his prismatic ring in half, what would it yield? I was thinking to reproduce a printout of his planar net and build the structure and then cut it in half, but in the mean time I have convinced myself of the result. Here's my guess in spoilaform. imatfaal's prismatic ring:

Interesting. Do you have some references to all this that I can learn from? Again interesting, and again do you have some references I can read and learn from?

Simply stunning! Perhaps ajb will stumble over it and opine. The mutually exclusivity of interiority/exteriority reminds me of a flat-folding honeycomb structure I ran across in (I think) The Penguin Book of Strange and Curious Geometry. While the drawings were sufficient to get across the separation, I had to build it to grokk the flat-folding. Might as well post my last Möbius pic.

My pleasure. For English slang, try The Urban Dictionary I can not overemphasize that reviews are simply no substitute for reading the book. Hofstadter specifically covers your objections.

Correct. Well, not exactly and it is some of the protections already built in that will burn out. These protections are large and expensive and because of the expense and that it is uncommon to have a lot of them blow at once there is not a large stock of them. Not only is the grid at risk, large solar storms can induce currents in other long conductors such as rail lines. (Note: I was thinking of large transformers here; see below reference.) Edit: Carrington-class CME Narrowly Misses Earth [in 2012] Also, a large solar storm has knocked out a power grid since the Carrington event. March 1989 geomagnetic storm Actually no. I just read a paper on this which I will try to find again, but basically because the chips are smaller they are more susceptible to charged particles. Apparently the impacts don't burn out the circuits, but they change bits and this can cause system failures. Shielding is heavy and expensive and for the highest energy particles they don't protect the chips. I'll go try to find a couple references to add to this post. Edit #2: This isn't the paper I read, but it will do for now. Correlation of GEO Communications Satellite Anomalies and Space Weather Phenomena: Improved Satellite Performance and Risk Mitigation

In terms of expansion localized gravitational influences is negligible. Expansion is a global influence so your Earth example above wouldn't really work. snip... Just a thought to note that skartag is long gone, i.e. no longer a member for whatever reason. I only necromanced the thread to comment on the invocation of Möbius bands. Perhaps I should have started a new Möbius thread or maybe the staff will see fit to split off a new one from this.

While not a perfect analog to batting average, dividing rep points by total posts is an interesting statistic to take and compare among members. In this vein the more light-hearted gaming of forum posting is brought to the plate. Batter up!

Acknowledged. Your English is doing well enough; kudos for being French and using English anyway. This is the application that Hofstadter shows is fallacious. While the following quote -which I earlier gave- gets to the point, it is in the body of the book that Hofstadter outlines the supporting evidence. You won't be the first one that I have recommended this book to that balks at actually reading it. I think that whether it applies as I suggest or not, you would enjoy it in a general way given your interests expressed here in the forum. . PS For what it's worth I think the mod criticism of your reference was misplaced. It was no less appropriate than if you had linked to a Wiki article in support of your argument, whether or not the specific reference was speculative/questioned/challenged or not.

That sounds reasonable if journals would adopt it too and stop charging people to read works by authors that they [the journals] claim the copyright to. I side with the opinion of Grigory Perelman when he said, "To put it short, the main reason [i declined the $1 million prize] is my disagreement with the organized mathematical community. I dont like their decisions, I consider them unjust.

Necromancy! I searched the forum for 'Möbius' and this thread was the only one returned. And wonder of wonders you have mentioned just the concept I had in mind, i.e. squashing. Before I launch into squashed space I would just point out that above you say 'at the ends' and a Möbius band has no ends. So a few years back I got to wondering if there was a limit of L to W beyond which I could not join W's to get a Möbius band. I made paper bands as well as sewed some of canvas. Anyway, yes Möbius bands beyond certain ratios must be squishified. At some ratios the band squishes into a hexagon. After seeing it [the hexagon] and having recently read about the mysterious hexagon at Saturn's N pole, I wondered if it might have its origin in a squashed Möbius band of either an electric field or winds. Just before replying here I did a search and found the area of squished Möbius bands has been explored and while some facts have been forthcoming, others remain unsettled which may have a bearing on the space geometry discussed here. Fattest rectangular Möbius strip in 3-space @ Wikipedia Möbius Hexagon Möbius Band Ratio 10/8 Möbius Band Ratio 10/8 Unfolded