ThePromise

So Moontanman, suppose i could show you to your OWN satisfaction that there is such thing as God - would you then accept it? And if i could explain all the stuff it gets totally wrong to your knowledge, once again - to your own satisfaction .. would you accept that you have been mislead? ????????????????????????? if so read on. If not then tell me, because id just be wasting my time. What about unfilled prophecies? See the Bible cannot be partly correct and mostly false - it would not then be divine. Yes you can make dozens of predictions, so could you tell me who is going to become king of your house 10,000 years down the track - and could you tell me his name, and foretell the things which he will do .. a good description that is, characteristics, moral agender .. tell me hes going to guide hes people, be a leader, sacrifice his own life to save others, etc etc .. This book of fairy tales you speak of has watermarks of Jesus' coming right through out it up until Mathew untill the New testament is wriiten. More to the point though moont - would your conciouse thought consider that its bound to happen some time? And would you let me know over and over again. or would it be something that would be passed on down to other members in your family until finally this 'person' eventually comes along; Just so you could say HEY GUYS I WAS RIGHT.. Do you think this is a joke? Do you think this is just about right and wrong? So go ahead, just write a few differnt things you think would totally deface the scripture. Or just 1 .. But don't expect me to do all the research on the matter if you have not yet done any on the subject yourself. Krishna? Zeus, Odin, Thor, .. Kings of rome, babylon, greece, egypt, persia also considered themselves gods.. Its not about who's better then who either. God either exists or he doesn't. I say he does - you say he doesn't .. i've given you some evidence based on fact, but you ignore it with explanations based on factual fiction. Where is your evidence.

Am is a statement of presence.. I, is yourself in this case.. and if i need to wake up then why would i be inclined to accept knowledge but not search it out for myself .. I do believe its not a want or a need, its the word of God that i trust.. He is either a complete liar or he's not.. So on the topic of positive assertions, how about this (1) Some time before 500 B.C. the prophet Daniel proclaimed that Israel's long-awaited Messiah would begin his public ministry 483 years after the issuing of a decree to restore and rebuild Jerusalem (Daniel 9:25-26). He further predicted that the Messiah would be "cut off," killed, and that this event would take place prior to a second destruction of Jerusalem. Abundant documentation shows that these prophecies were perfectly fulfilled in the life (and crucifixion) of Jesus Christ. The decree regarding the restoration of Jerusalem was issued by Persia's King Artaxerxes to the Hebrew priest Ezra in 458 B.C., 483 years later the ministry of Jesus Christ began in Galilee. (Remember that due to calendar changes, the date for the start of Christ's ministry is set by most historians at about 26 A.D. Also note that from 1 B.C. to 1 A.D. is just one year.) Jesus' crucifixion occurred only a few years later, and about four decades later, in 70 A.D. came the destruction of Jerusalem by Titus. .. That is pasted from a site http://www.reasons.org/fulfilled-prophecy-evidence-reliability-bible - as i don't have any books handy at the moment, it is an easy source of info to yourself in regards to the destruction of jerusalem which was foretold

No, would just like you to make an informed decision not a pretxtual one.. We'r talking about real life. Don't be scared of your people walk up in there, and show them that.

And see that the problem.. Prayer study in church and cover to cover in real effort to understand a MAN MADE DOCTORINE (not one of the bible) isn't going to make sense or get you anywhere .. some realistic idea that they preach as TRUTH on a "TRADITIONAL" basis - is not going to get you anywhere.. Were you that some one that just listened to what your leader had to say.. or did you go and look it up for yourself. And further more, did you study it in depth.. or did you just make an informed decision on a reformed precision that was drilled into your head from however old. Mate, comon. Have you ever looked into Prophesy? Sorry but im 20 years old and im making the assertion that once im done.. IF your willing to go ahead and read some orginal text and study the fulfilments within.. you will make an INFORMED decision, not a pretextual one.

Well if your so bound on going against it.. Prove it wrong. . Go for it, thats what my dad did..Hes now got a library and went through Hebrew, Greek an Latin finding out everything he could. See most people couldn't be bothered... But i'll do it for myself anyway

Okay so let me clarify, the 'other gods' (your acceptance) have just as much evidence as what the bible does on its existence and Gods' - ahem.... ?? Ahkk? the 3 day project little big horns 'Hi im King Zeus' hail king zeus? Did you watch that on Youtube? Theres plenty of books out there.. The passage in the bible is clear about priesthood..''Father forgive me for i have sinned; is what you'll hear most people say on a tv show or maybe at a confession box.. once again We are talking about GOD not RELIGION. . '' ["Call no man your father on earth, for you have one Father, who is in heaven" ] this is written from a passage in the bible, and the words in all the books are not written so that like minded people like you could NOT understand, they are written so that if you DO read them .. you can come to an understanding. Or maybe the 100 other religions that fall into the category of RELIGION - they 2 share like minded beliefs with this 3 day thing and, HA well im not going to even waste my time on that!.. DO YOU RESEARCH BUDDY.

No i wasn't - So explanations can be put forward but the fact is..you will never really know will you no matter what 5% conclusion you might come to. So you believe in other gods?

Answer No. Why? Because Pagan relegion is a different topic.. Tou? No i dont believe that the stars are gods, but i do belive that there is a god who created the universe.

Where were you when the foundations of the earth were made. God said, I am. There is no other God, he makes this clear. He also says that anyone who adds to this book, the plauges of the earth shall be added unto them - and anyone who takes away from this book - their name shall be taken away from the book of Life.

And do you know what happened to this king of babylon who exalted his throne above the stars of God? .. Do you think that religion is truth? Do you think that if i believe in Heaven, i believe in Hell? Or is that just what you've been told..

You didn't answer my question. Are you willing to participate..

Oh okay, but you do exist though don't you .. Even though we're talking on an amplification of thought through a keyboard.. How do i know you exist? Sorry but who are you? Where did you come from? Are you from the opposite side of the planet? No ? Yes? Either 1 okay sweet so could you please tell me how you would get through to someone who was in control of not just YOUR complete existence but EVERYONES complete existence and the 'person' who was behind this perfect balance..Is there an explanation of chance? maybe even a constant evolving ape form? .. Hm.... But hey Moontanman if you said "i will have a son, he will be called (whatever) and when he is born he will become the comparison of Freddy Blogs the president of the world and then when he becomes president he will do this that and i will ultimately raise him from the dead after his own people dispose of him [and at the same time have over 5000 witnesses outside the bible who were there and saw freddy after he was crucified, and other people who at that time who were also resurected and walking around] and then return my sons people back to the land of um and tell everyone about the fall and destruction of babylon etc .. And of 60 other fulfilments that i mentioned along the way.. Would you turn around after say 500 years and say "no there must be some sort of explanation to this!'' Or maybe would you just go and listen to your priests who sprinkle holy water on you and say Oh yeaah hi so we go to heaven after we die HEY SWEET YEH IM IN.. Maybe yes to the first, but i doubt you'd go for the second. So where would you look first? Where would you look first.

Your evidence that ... You don't really exist.

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I said, when im done.. I'll leave it up to you. Put up? What would you like me to put up? Something which you will deny anyway on ANYONES explanatipon? Proselytizing is one of those words that i really wouldn't be looking up on google so, im willing to listen to your evidence.

When its all been said and done .. there is just one thing that matters , did i do my best to live for you? Did i live my life for you? when its all been said and done, all my tresures will meen nothing, only what ive done for loves reward will stand, the test, of time. Lord your mercy is so great, that you look beyond our weakness.. and find pure is gold in my reclaim, making sinners into saints, and i wiill always sing your grace - here on earth and ever after. For you've shown me heavens my true home, when its all been said and done.. your my life when i've begun. Whens its all been said and done there is just one thing that matters - did i do my best to live for truth -i would live my life for you. Lord i live my life for you. Elohim; the creator that has created something out of nothing - You are all i need. Its your face i see. Where ever i look - In the skies, in the wind that touches my face. In the sun that scorches the earth, you made .. We bow down to you lord, And confess our sins amongst others - you are one, in this place. For a man without grace, is of all men without hope. I have been blessed with your sight - what men shall do in your name not according to your word is ultimately trivial against your command, and in search of the proofs which do not lead to their own satisfaction, but the satisfaction of others.. Why? Why should knowledge go so far but not weigh a thing.. Because they are not satisfied with Sight, or hearing, or being - their reclaim is in explanation of something which can only give representation. Your promise goes beyond explanation, represenation and proof, and if i had time to write all the fors and against, i would not be a man of God. Pleasing others is not my reproof. Giving hope is something which only you can give and i pray that you might give these people - who have been victim to society and all the things within the extrusion, a chance .. a search for understanding, a knowledge which opens the doors to the strength and understanding which you give us. Lord when you decide to return your son, In his name shall your purpose be exalted. In his name i will shout.. Your name. God, for my sins themselves will be the impurity of what others could not stand to be tried for, my falses are like that of a sheep - not a shephard. I will stand, i will come together from the 4 corners of the earth to gather the people of faith, I will protect and serve your name, and your word.. Not the word of the athiest who prays repeatedly, who boasts amongst others , who is quick to run to shed blood. Your Kingdom will come, on Earth - As it is in heaven. Give us this day our bread, and forgive us our trespasses, as we forgive those who trespass against us. For thine is the kingdom, the power, and the glory - forever, amen.

Replying or Answering .. Personal liberty to make your own choice? Sure. Power? Well i'll leave that up to you when im done.

Religion is man made.. What God says is not. Science is man made, and science alters its view with the next theory that comes along. Now what i would like to make clear with this whole CREATION of earth.. Is that it CLEARLY does not say EVERYTHING was created in 6 days. It sais "In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth, and the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God was hovering over the face of the waters. THEN God said..." So first of all, i think scientists should get their facts straight before dealing with what THE BIBLE says.. and what 'Religion thinks' Can you PROVE to me , that God does not exist? I can prove to you that he does. So please give me something to work with, because this whole self importance of personal liberty and power really just doesn't do it for me.